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== List Steff theories here. ==
These theories have since been [[Jossed]], but are kept here for posterity.
* My guess is ''some kind of sexually transmitted "[[Ranma
* Alternatively, ''Steff is, in fact, a '''hermaphrodite''', but flat-chested enough to pass for a [[Wholesome Crossdresser|guy who looks a little too good in a dress]]''. What does Delia the Dark Elf have to say on the subject of Steff? "Your language doesn't have enough pronouns." Also, Steff tells Mack that (s)he doesn't care if she prefers boys or girls... This could be interpreted as him/her being neither/both.
** While this does appear to be Jossed, Dee's later comments still suggest that Steff herself may not be entirely aware of her true nature. While Steff is not a hermaphrodite in the classic sense (her genitals are definitely male) it seems that among the subterranean elves, ambiguous sex is more common than in humans (or perhaps just not stigmatized the same way). It may be that this is true of the surface elves as well, but that that (being both very young and half-human) no one ever explained this to Steff.
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* Because ''something'' has to explain it.
* This troper disagrees. If demons are anything like the typical version, they get off on ''delivering'' torment, not ''receiving'' it. Alternate theory: Mack's grandmother and caretaker was always tormenting her. Thus she equates love with being tormented. "Kheez, if she doesn't care enough to ''beat'' me, then she doesn't care at all..."
* Similar, but somewhat different; Mack's love of pain comes from her devotion to demons being a bad thing. She's hugely invested in the idea that demonicness makes you bad; thus, when she's put in pain, because she's "bad", that she's being punished is a good thing. Hence why it isn't simply pain, but general unpleasant things she enjoys - it's all punishment for the bad demon, which is a good thing, and has now got hooked into her sexuality.
* I trust the sex-empath nymph, here. Shame, self-loathing, indoctrinated disgust with her own body, etc. seem more likely factors.
** ''Shame'' and ''self-loathing'' which come from her believing that she's a bad, bad demon. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
== Kiersta isn't actually entirely human, but doesn't want people to know what she actually is. ==
Alternately, she is physically human but was raised in some other society, and doesn't not think if herself entirely as human.
While Celia got upset at having a human RA, assuming that it was because the school authorities didn't trust non-human students, Kiersta only replied that she was a 'full-blooded human'. However, at least three others (Raquel, and Leighton twins) on the same floor could say the same while still having attributes that would cause them to be ''seen'' as non-human. Furthermore, she has never given a surname, something which is distinctly atypical for IRM human society but common for several of the demi-human species.
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It is possible that she is a human by birth, but under some enchantment or curse which, while not readily visible, would make her unwelcome elsewhere when it was revealed, especially if it was something that occurred recently. An obvious possibility is some form of thieranthropy, which (as far as this troper knows so far) has not been mentioned in the series to date; it is noteworthy that she has not (again, AFAIK) been seen around during a full moon, though the same could be said of several other characters. Any number of other magical conditions or maladies are possible, however, especially in a school of magic. She may not be completely at ease with whatever has altered her, and in any case probably still thinks of herself as human, at least technically.
Another possibility is that she is of a magically-altered subspecies that is nominally human, but unusual or undesirable in some way (e.g., some versions of doppelgangers are human, but sexless, and need to replace a normal human in order to breed, a sort of hominid cuckoo). In this case, she may not have been aware of her own unusual nature until recently, and discreetly arranged to be transferred to Harlowe after she found out.
* Possible evidence: a mention of therianthropes came in chapter 294, when Steff joked that Hazel might be a "very short werebear" after discovering her [[Berserk Button]]. So it seems that they do exist. Of course that could turn into a Wild Mass Guess on its own.
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*** Possibly a 50 ton full dragon can work wherever it darn well pleases, but a 160lb 1/4 dragon merely has no rights to citizenship (or even to be regarded as a being), since its/her/his weight would be considerably less to throw around, especially with no three-foot fangs or fire breath?
== Puddie's wine isn't just wine, she had some other drug mixed in. == This occurred to me after I noticed that everyone who drinks it not only gets drunk but behaves in a very specific way (trying to rape Mack).
* Then again, it may just be a [[Anvilicious|repeated]] [[An Aesop|aesop]] about drinking responsibly.
** Certainly, the other times Mack and others have gotten drunk, they behaved just as badly, if not worse. Gabe in particular had the "let's gang-rape Mack" thing going after a couple of beers, so it isn't just Puddy's wine.
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== Mercy is eventually going to find another male half-demon, and having ''three'' males, will start bringing more pressure on Mack, possibly by arranging 'accidents' that are likely to make her lose control. ==
{{spoiler|This would be especially disturbing if the third male was Aiden. Chances are Mack knows nothing about her older brother, and Mur-Si probably wouldn't know unless she ran tests on them. Even if she ''did'' know, she seems like someone who would find it amusing to [[Mate or Die|force Mack]] to [[Brother
* {{spoiler|Unlikely, Aiden is apparently an airship mechanic and [[Happily Married]].}}
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== The series is in fact coded racist propaganda ==
The only non-human races who apparently don't want to eat/rape-and-enslave humans? Drow, who make no attempt at mass immigration and stay where they belong -[[Metaphorgotten|hundreds of miles underground]]
* Where is stated that Gnomes want to rape and enslave humans? Plus, the nasty features of many MU races is balanced by the frequent indicators that [[Humans Are
== Mermaids are secretly part demon ==
Think about it for a moment. Whenever Mackenzie's demon side is played up her eyes change, and the rest of her catches fire and is altered. Similarly, mermaids eyes turn completely black and their forms change. Additionally it has been stated that [[No Biochemical Barriers|nearly all sentient races can breed true]], and that whales, dolphins, and some types of fish are sentient. All it takes is a few fish and a few demons. This explains in a way their desire to eat human flesh as a necessity, as Feejee seems to have a hard time going long without it. I'd imagine this would have happened so long ago that it would have been nearly or completely forgotten(and wouldn't exactly be spread around).
* Between dragons, ogre's and the rest, it's safe to assume that humans have been a large part of the food chain in the series until almost the present day , looking at it like that, mermaids just fill an ecological niche. Mostly, I just can't imagine any infernal plan that would be furthered by seducing a whale or fish.
== Magic is secretly [[Magic From Technology]] ==
Way I see it, mechans are among the more accurately portrayed magical scientists(what that says about the genre is another topic entirely), factoring in the fact that ''no one'' knows where magic came from or can describe it in any terms that seem consistent I'd guess that, as the Arkanites believe gods are [[Sufficently Advanced]] creatures [[Abusing the Kardashev Scale For Fun
== Mack is 3/4 demon. ==
Her grandmother hates demons so much because she made a mistake and slept with/was raped by one of her targets. Her mother's powers consumed her, which was both why she died young and how she could control Mack. Mack's [[Super
== Mack's grandmother isn;t as evil as the series makes her out to be. ==
Mack is shown to be an unreliable narrator, both in the series and in narrating the series. It's possible that her demon side sees hunters as [[
* Of course, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on whether Mack's grandmother is really made out to be ''evil'' so much as a battle-traumatized, hard-core religious fanatic who, despite showing genuine love and kindness, was simply a poor parent. The "three buckets of water" flashback exemplifies this - she threatens Mack with a holy-water dousing, but she makes Mack take the threat seriously by ''sticking her own arm in boiling oil'', with no proof that the decorated third bucket had anything but normal water in it. Traumalicious and emotionally abusive, but still, horribly, something that could be motivated by genuine good intentions crossed with a poor ability to relate to people.
== The La Belle family has significant amounts of sidhe ancestry. ==
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== Mother Khaele doesn't hate Mack at all... ==
...She just objects to Amaranth loving ''anyone'' most of all.
== Mother Khaele has a plan ==
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== Jamie and Mack will have one brief chat ==
After crossing each others' paths a number of more times, they will engage in small-talk for a few minutes, perhaps before their graduation ceremony.
Both will have very different impressions of the encounter.
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The cited cases of half-demons who commit violence, lead uprisings, etc. might well be balanced by an unknown number of half-demons keeping their heads down, safely feeding their hungers, and staying out of trouble.
== Mack's weakness to Kherstian and faith-based objects is (at least out of her [[Super
The reason Kherstian symbols, objects, and prayers harm her more than the others is not because Khersis is particularly strong or has [[Gods Need Prayer Badly|a lot of worshippers]], but rather because she was raised in a society of prominently Kherstian faith. When someone starts praying in fear, or waving around an un-blessed holy symbol, it triggers a reflex to stop messing with the mortals before someone gets hurt. Full demons actually do have to deal with the gods themselves, and other half-demons (if they've been shown in-story at all to be harmed by faith and the symbols thereof, rather than straight divine magic) are harmed because they messed with the natural order of things, and killed too many beings under the protection of a more powerful demi- or full-deity. If divine magic is present every time other half-demons were harmed, then this theory holds for Mack's [[Super
:: Mack isn't weak to faith-based objects, but divinity, which is in direct opposition to the nature of demonhood (as AE stated on her Formspring when asked if there was such a thing as a "demon god"). Mechans don't invoke the divine, which is why she's safe there. Khersis is a particularly anti-demon god, which is why he causes her particular discomfort.
== One of Mercy's clients is hiding, or is a demonblood ==
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== Callahan is a [[Death Seeker]] ==
Her greatest fear is [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|living forever]]. One reason for her omnicidal mass-murdering tendencies is that she finds pleasure in ending immortal life. Another one may be an urge to die in battle - but she has not yet found a being in the world who could defeat her.
She might be teaching combat classes simply to groom students as possible worthy opponents - and particularly Mack.
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