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** They tried to give one to {{spoiler|Mohs. [[Complete Monster|The fandom didn't take that too well.]]}}
* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Asch. He's either a tragic victim, or an emotionaly simple villain who murdered scores of people and who can't deal with complex situations. {{spoiler|For example, losing to Luke in battle and then Luke still wanting to befriend him. This causes him to send Luke on alone and fight hordes of guards, essentialy commiting suicide.}}
** Everyone.
*** Luke in the first part: Wangsty loser or child betrayed by both sets of parental figures and treated as a scapegoat by his friends?
*** Luke in the late game: Sympathetic individual who is trying to [[The Atoner|atone for what he's done]] and come to terms with {{spoiler|being a replica}} even if he doesn't know how, or wangsty, guilt-driven and suicidal?
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** Luke and Ion have their moments of this, particularly in the first trip to the Cheagle Woods.
** People tend to ship Luke and Asch together {{spoiler|[[Screw Yourself|for another reason entirely, though]]}}.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Heroic subversion: His name starts with a 'J' and ends with an 'ade Curtiss'.
** [[Big Bad|Van]] does a lot of this as well.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]
** Anise. Her family was the victim of a con and wound up in debt. Mohs paid off the debt, but had her parents become indentured servants, leading Anise to want to earn the money to free them. Unfortunately, she does some morally dubious things to reach this goal, including wanting to marry into wealth, performing occasional scams and {{spoiler|serving as a spy for Mohs, leading to Ion's death}}. How much you sympathize with her depends on how willing you are to forgive her for the latter, spoilered act.
** Sync is not only allied with the villains but does some exceptionally cruel things [[Kick the Dog|for no good reason]], such as making fun of {{spoiler|Akzeriuth's destruction}} and {{spoiler|mimicking Ion's voice to guilt-trip Anise}}. However, it's difficult not to feel at least some pity for him when you realize that he {{spoiler|was cast away along with the other unused Ion replicas and only kept around as a tool by Van}}.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Van Grants.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]:* Heroic subversion: His name starts with a 'J' and ends with an 'ade Curtiss'. Anise Tatlin could also qualify as a [[Bastard Understudy]].
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: {{spoiler|Mohs kidnapping Anise's parents, forcing her to act as [[The Mole]], and then ''personally'' murdering Ion and ''making Anise watch''.}}
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: Mieu's sounds for the Sorcerer's Ring, especially when you make multiple attempts to hit something.
{{quote| '''Mieu''': Fire! Mieuuuu! Fire!}}
* [[Narm]]: The scene just before the final showdown between Luke and Asch. It's fine for the most part, and then it gets to the very end...
{{quote| '''Asch''' ''(with a totally deadpan expression on his face)'': Well said. I will make those words your last, {{spoiler|'''''[[Chewing the Scenery|REPLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!]]'''''}}}}
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: {{spoiler|The horrifically brutal death of the boy John after the fall of Akzurieth, as he sinks while buried under his father's corpse}} may very well be the single most terrifying event in the entire Tales franchise.
* [[The Scrappy]]: Luke, whether for his arrogance in the early game or his Wangst in the late game.
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*** {{spoiler|And because he just deliberately killed thousands of basically innocent replicas in order to save the world, though oddly enough that fact is only mentioned once after the fact, despite Luke's dual [[Thou Shalt Not Kill]] and Replicas Are People schticks...}}
*** It's also dawned on Luke that his life will never go back to the way it was before {{spoiler|he found out he was a replica}}, which, in and of itself is quite sad. Had the game ended after {{spoiler|the first fight with Van}}, one has to wonder where Luke's life would have led.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: With the exception of Asch (who fits [[The Woobie]] part but not the Destroyer Of Worlds part) and Legretta (who fits the Destroyer Of Worlds part but not [[The Woobie]] part), pretty much all of the God-Generals. And [[Big Bad|Van]] in a literal sense.
** Can[[World weof just simplifyWoobie]]: this now by saying that prettyPretty much every single character except for [[CompleteSmug MonsterSnake|Mohs]] is a [[The Woobie|woobieWoobie]] to some extent?.
*** Heck, they even tried to [[The Woobie|Woobify]] [[Complete Monster|Mohs]], what with that [[Alas, Poor Villain]] send-off...
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: With the exception of Asch (who fits [[The Woobie]] part but not the Destroyer Of Worlds part) and Legretta (who fits the Destroyer Of Worlds part but not [[The Woobie]] part), pretty much all of the God-Generals.
* [[World of Woobie]]
 
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