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A contradiction of causality within the timeline brought about by [[Time Travel]]. Theorized to be [[Time Crash|dangerous to the fabric of reality]], and known to be [[Your Head Asplode|dangerous to the brains]] of anyone who tries to get their head around them. [[Bellisario's Maxim|So don't]]. It's usually what [[The Professor]] worries about during a [[Time Travel]] story.
 
Punishments for violating this rule may vary. You might instantly [[Ret -Gone|vanish from history]] or cause your time-travelling self to be [[Puff of Logic|erased]]; you might be immune but find the world around you different; you might [[Divide By Zero|destroy reality itself]]; heck, you might even [[Butterfly of Doom|accidentally unleash]] [[Clock Roaches|killer flying time monkeys]].
 
This is all fictional, of course. In reality, a confirmed paradox would disallow time travel to work ''at all''. You see, a logical paradox is not a ''thing''. It is a sign in a human-created model that either you have attempted something impossible or that you have incomplete understanding of how something works. Here's the thing: all our notions of causality are based on the fact that time only moves in the one direction and a paradox exploits this cause and effect relationship. Once you throw [[Time Travel]] into the equation and have time to move in a different way, it's really anyone's guess what will happen. Not that this prevents authors from abusing the concept as a sort of universe-wide [[Logic Bomb]].
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** However, the effects of time travel are ''different'' in the various movies. For instance: in the first movie, Marty's accidental stopping his parents getting together was starting to delete him from existence; in the second movie, Biff interferes with his past, and the changed present has Biff saying he sent Marty to a school in Switzerland, yet this never affects the time-travelling Marty.
** [[Fanon]] has [[Justified Trope|justified]] this in various ways; for example, saying the time traveller is only affected by his own changes to the timeline, or by saying that he will be unaffected as long as there's somewhere in the timeline for him to "slot in" - changes to his situation in the new timeline are shrugged off, as long as he exists ''somewhere''.
** The documentaries on the DVD set mention how the justification was that there's some entity that regulates time itself. The partial deletion over time of Marty, why both Jennifers fainted when they met each other, and why even with relatively major changes to the timeline, Marty's family, home, and association with Doc Brown and Jennifer remain largely the same. They wanted to explore this aspect, but couldn't find a way to incorporate it into the films without it being obtrusive. [[The Other Wiki]] has more information [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future_timeline:Back to the Future timeline#Time_Travel_TheoryTime Travel Theory|here]].
* ''The Lake House'' is a story about a mailbox that delivers letters from Kate to Alex ''two years ago'' and vice versa. {{spoiler|Alex dies in a car accident on Valentines Day. Two years later, when Kate realizes that, she sends a message to Alex two years ago telling him not to be there, and he survives.}} It should be noted that the Korean movie this movie is based on dealt with the paradox differently: {{spoiler|The female character sends the warning back in time, but the male character remains dead. Meanwhile, the insertion of the warning splits off an alternate universe where the male character survives, and the movie ends with the male character meeting the female character, just as the female character is moving into the house, before she's even gotten the first letter. It's okay, though. The guy has quite a story to tell her. Since the movie ends there, by the way, it's unknown whether the female character would have ever started the letter-exchanging if the guy hadn't...ugh, it's all sort of vague, really.}}
* The horror film ''[[Triangle]]'' has loads upon loads. How it works, nobody knows, as even [[Phelous]] can tell you.
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* Time travel is forbidden in [[The Dresden Files]] because it might end up destroying the fabric of reality. Characters capable of seeing the future can't be specific about their visions for the same reason.
** The Gatekeeper, specifically, has a vision of something major in the Dresdenverse, and alerts Harry to it, in the most vague, roundabout way. Bob later explains he did this to avoid the entire universe going kaput. He also mentions that no one has ever caused a temporal paradox before, and you can tell by the way the universe keeps existing.
* Some argue that [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/René_Barjavel:René Barjavel|René Barjavel's]] ''Le Voyageur imprudent'' is the [[Ur Example|first ever example]] of the grandfather paradox.
* In ''The Anubis Gates'' by Tim Powers, main character Brendon Doyle, a modern expert on the poet William Ashbless, ends up back in the 1800's during Ashbless' lifetime. When {{spoiler|Doyle ends up BECOMING Ashbless thanks to a [[Freaky Friday Flip|body-snatching werewolf]] (don't ask), he publishes the poems from memory}}--which leaves us with the problem of how the poems were written in the first place. In fact, it actually freaks ''Doyle'' out, but he concludes that {{spoiler|as long as the poems exist, history will continue in its proper order, so he shouldn't sweat too much over it.}}
* Distilled to its purest form in [[Fredric Brown]]'s short story ''[http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29948/29948-h/29948-h.htm Experiment]''.
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== Live Action TV ==
* In ''[[Quantum Leap]]'', it appears that Sam is affected by the changes he makes to history only after he leaps, and this has some bearing on his occasional manifestation of [[Suddenly Always Knew That|previously unmentioned skills]] (and previously unmentioned/nonexistent family members). Al, on the other hand, seems to be affected instantly, but only when probability of a new event becomes sufficiently high. (In one episode, Sam assures Al's untimely death. When the probability reaches 100%, Al is replaced by another character, but he reappears when Sam reduces the probability.)
* One has to give credit to ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'', in that a show with a ''time traveler'' as a central character delves into temporal paradoxes relatively infrequently; in most cases, the time travelling is just a way to set stories in different periods, the temporal version of [[Adventure Towns]]. It does have its fair share of 'em though (especially after Steven Moffat started writing for the new series):
** "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S2 E9 The Time Meddler|The Time Meddler]]" had characters speculate that if history was changed, their memories would be updated with the new version instantly -- though later events imply this is not actually the case. In "[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S1 E8 Fathers Day|Father's Day]]", we see that creating a true paradox (which seems to require not only a change to history which undermines the traveller's presence, but that the traveller ''witnesses himself'' doing this by being present in the same time zone twice) has the effect of releasing [[Clock Roaches|killer flying time monkeys]], which eat everything on your planet. No, really.
*** The earlier example was retconned in the later one with a [[Hand Wave]] by the Doctor saying that when the Time Lords were still alive they prevented this sort of thing from happening.
** The series does tend to imply that the "Laws of Time" are more of a legal code than physical law: in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S3 E1 Smith and Jones|Smith and Jones]]", the Doctor notes that crossing one's own timeline is dangerous and forbidden, "except for cheap tricks."
*** Although there's the recurring concept of fixed events as opposed to unfixed ones - events that must happen in a specific way, as opposed to ones that could happen any way. The Doctor, of course, has the inherent ability to tell them apart. And, of course, no one else does. Usually.
** Also, in the old series Gallifrey had the [[Deus Ex Machina|Eye of Harmony]], a modified black hole that acted as an unlimited power source, universe-wide navigational beacon, and the mother of all temporal stabilizers. Thus even if they screwed up, the Time Lords had access to enough energy to maintain the desired timeline by brute force if necessary (as seen in The Five Doctors). In the new series, the Eye of Harmony has been destroyed, so The Doctor has less to work with.
** Another interesting use of the temporal paradox concept comes in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S3 E13 Last of the Time Lords|Last of the Time Lords]]", in which the Master brings humans back in time from the end of the universe to kill humanity... which would normally make no sense, which is why he turned the TARDIS into a "Paradox Machine" to keep the paradox stable. Destroying this acts as a [[Reset Button]] which sets everything on the surface back to the way it was before the machine was activated.
** Also, "[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S3 E10 Blink|Blink]]", the episode that gave us the [[Timey-Wimey Ball]], has a paradox at its heart. The Doctor is only able to tell Sally Sparrow what's going on via DVD [[Easter Egg|Easter Eggs]] because Sally wrote it all down at the time and gives it to him at the end of the episode.
*** To make things more interesting, [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S31 E04 The Time of Angels|The Time of Angels]] reveals to us that {{spoiler|the image of an Angel is an Angel}} and with everything in that folder she handed the Doctor, the transcript, [[Fridge Horror|several pictures of Angel statues]], the list... I wonder where those scavenger Weeping Angels came from anyway.
** It gets much weirder in the [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]], which features [[Faction Paradox]], a villain group whose [[Planet of Hats|hat]] is temporal paradoxes. In fact, part of their [[Cult|initiation ritual]] involves traveling back in time and [[Self -Made Orphan|killing off your own ancestors]]. Yes, really.
*** At one point, they infected the Third/Fourth Doctor with [[The Virus|Faction biodata]] during a regeneration that wasn't supposed to happen (when he was shot on Dust, instead of [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S11 E5 Planet of the Spiders|the canon radiation poisoning on Metebelis Three]]), causing the Eighth Doctor to disrupt his own timeline so that the Third Doctor was shot on Dust, permitting the Faction to infect him with the biodata, which caused him to tinker with the past so he could be infected with the biodata... [[Your Head Asplode|BOOM!]]
*** And that's ''before'' you enter the [[Eldritch Location|Eleven-Day Empire]], a place ''literally'' made of nonexistant time. Or the [[Humanoid Abomination|Grandfather]] [[Grandfather Paradox|Paradox]], the [[Anthropomorphic Personification]] of [[Future Me Scares Me|all potential evil and despair]] in the Universe. Or the part where Gallifrey's history is repeteadly raped into oblivion.
** You really have to give credit to [[Doctor Who (TV)/2010 CSA Christmas Carol/Recap|A Christmas Carol]] and how many paradoxes it goes through. Traveling back in someone's personal timeline ''as they watch from the future.'' Confusing and rather nonsensical; where're the Reapers in all this?!
*** And ''then'' the Doctor brings the past version of Scrooge--er, Kazran, to visit his ''future self.''
*** Attempts to follow this seriously may lead to [[Your Head Asplode|your head asploding.]]
** But then the Grand Moff (who wrote Blink, Christmas Carol, and other [[Timey-Wimey Ball|Timey-Wimey]] eps like the Big Bang and The Girl in the Fireplace) is becoming quite known for his confuddling paradoxes. I mean, look at the contributions to Comic Relief! (Both of which written by him.)
** Lampshaded in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E10 The Girl Who Waited|The Girl Who Waited]]". {{spoiler|Amy is trapped in a faster timestream. Rory encounters an Amy who has waited 36 years to be rescued. She is the key to saving a younger Amy who has only waited for one week in the timestream, but saving the younger Amy means the older Amy would never have existed to save the younger Amy.}}
* In ''[[The Big Bang Theory]]'', in one episode, Sheldon, Leonard, Raj, and Walowitz buy the original time machine prop. Events in the episode lead to Sheldon and Leonard trying to decide if Leonard could have gone back in time to stop himself from buying the time machine, leading Sheldon to say, basically, "No."
* ''[[Lost]]'': Subverted when Sayid attempted to {{spoiler|kill Ben}}, which simply caused him to grow up into the man he already was.
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**** And, in a more immediate matter, she {{spoiler|1=is also capable of piloting the WiG, while Naked Snake is not. If she's killed, Snake cannot escape after completing Operation Snake Eater.}} As such, she has to make it through to the end of the game.
** The "CO from the future" part is actually a joke that is, for lack of a better way of saying it, lost in translation. In the original Japanese language track, the voice actor who plays this character is ''also'' the voice actor who does the Japanese dub of ''Doc Brown'' in [[Back to The Future]].
* In the ''[[Space Quest]]'' series of games, Roger Wilco is saved from certain death in ''Space Quest IV'' by a mysterious man who is later revealed to be his grown-up son from the future. Roger meets the future mother of Roger Jr. (though she doesn't know it yet) in ''Space Quest V'' and if she's killed during the course of the story, Roger Jr. and therefore Roger Sr. as well [[Ret -Gone|cease to exist]], [[Nonstandard Game Over|and it's Game Over]].
** However, in one way to kill off Beatrice {{spoiler|picking her up while she's frozen and having her break into bite-sized pieces}}, you get a slightly different [[Have a Nice Death]] message.
* ''Infinity'' series:
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** Cue the second game, 7 years later. {{spoiler|The Prince is informed by some old dude that he should have died during the first game, but cocked it up through messing round with the time continuum and is now hunted by the Dahaka, a guardian of the sands, which seeks to kill him and restore the balance. To stop this, the Prince decides to travel to the Island of Time to stop the sands ever being created by travelling back through time to kill the Empress of Time. He rescues a woman, Kaileena, and sets about trying to get to the Empress whilst dodging the Dahaka and a strange wraith-like figure seemingly out to get him. Whilst travelling to the Throne room he is confronted by both, but escapes when the Dahaka kills the wraith and buggers off. Kaileena reveals herself to be the Empress, the Prince kills her and travels back to the present, only to be confronted by the Dahaka again, since the sands turned out to have been created by the act of killing the Empress. He almost gives up hope when he discovers the mask of the Sand Wraith, which allows him to co-exist with himself in the same time-line. He then goes back in time, revealing himself to be the strange wraith-like figure, who wasn't trying to kill the prince but in fact save him. When confronting his past self with the Dahaka outside the throne room he dodges the Dahaka, allowing it to kill his old self, which reverts him back to the Prince. Confused yet? He then proceeds to confront the Empress again, but this time throw her through a portal into the present, planning to kill her here, thus still creating the sands, but not in a time frame that would allow them to be found by his father. Then the Dahaka shows up again, now trying to kill the Empress, but together they manage to defeat it and set sail for Babylon, the Prince's home. }}
** Which takes us to the third game. {{spoiler|Arriving at Babylon they find the place ransacked because by retconning his past the vizier of course never died, got hold of the dagger, and proceeded to attack it, looking for the Sands of Time. Kaileena is captured, but when the Prince tries to rescue her the vizier stabs himself with the dagger, turning into a sand god or something, killing Kaileena and infecting the Prince with the sands. Princey manages to swipe the dagger though, escape, and sets about to kill the vizier again. Along the way he bumps into Farah, who had been captured way back when the vizier got the dagger, and discovers that the sands have manifested within him as the Dark prince; a seperate personality that tries to convince him to look out only for himself. He catches up with the vizier, is soundly beaten and thrown into a well, finds his father, who is dead again, and has a crisis moment where the Dark Prince tries to take over. He resists, fights the vizier again, kills him with the dagger, Kaileena appears and cleanses him of the sands, and all seems well. Then the Dark prince pulls him into his own mind, tries to screw it all up but he resists, gets rid of him too and gets the girl. Alls well that ends well. Aside from the dead father and ruined city.}}
* The flash game [http://www.kongregate.com/games/Scarybug/chronotron chronotron] revolves around the players ability to travel back to the begining of the stage (so that multiple version of the player exists at the same time). It is quite possible to either kill a past self, or bar their passage to the time machine - resulting in a time paradox "death", complete with a [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_triangle:Penrose triangle|penrose triangle]] warning sign.
* According to [[Word of God]], there's an active paradox known as the [http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Split_Timeline_Theory Split Timeline Theory] in the [[The Legend of Zelda|Zelda universe]]. Basically, when Link defeats Ganon at the end of [[The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]] and Ganondorf gets sealed away by the sages, Zelda sends Link back into the past where he warns the king of Hyrule of Ganondorf's intentions [[The Legend of Zelda Majoras Mask|and then leaves Hyrule]]. Now, this doesn't negate the need for time travel; instead that [[Bad Future]] remains, but without Link since he's back in the past. Much later in that future, Ganon escapes, and the events of [[The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker (Video Game)|Wind Waker]] happen, hence the "The people believed that the Hero of Time would again come to save them. / ...But the hero did not appear." in the prologue.
 
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* In an episode of [[Wizards of Waverly Place]], Harper travels back in time from the future. At the end of the episode, present Harper sees a hat that future Harper is wearing. She asks where she got it, and future Harper gives present Harper the hat. But then you begin to wonder where the hat came from in the first place.
* As of the season 3 finale of [[Fringe]] it is revealed that {{spoiler|the machine left by the first people actually came to be scattered in the past by a future Walter Bishop who sent his machine back through a wormhole leading to the paleolithic era}}. This means that {{spoiler|the machine}} both came from nowhere and is infinitely old.
* Another ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' example: In [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S31 E13 The Big Bang|The Big Bang]] the Doctor avoids the physical paradox by throwing away a note written by his future self and placed in the past, but the information on the note is still the source of the information on the note.
** Then, there's the comic relief special Time Crash: the Tenth Doctor and the Fifth Doctor meet. Ten knows what to do about a certain problem because when he was Five, he had experienced these events and watched his future self do it. When ''one of the Doctors'' points out how that makes no effing sense, they both say "Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey" and move on.
* In ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]],'' Kryten's last words (in a timeline that is eventually undone) are the words he knew he would say because he saw his future self die earlier in the episode. Somehow, though he only said it because he knew he was going to, "enig" turns out to be ''important,'' short for "enigma." Of course, ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]]'' is hardly anyone's idea of "hard SF."
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* In ''[[Artemis Fowl (Literature)|Artemis Fowl]] and the Time Paradox'', {{spoiler|Opal Koboi from the past travels to the present, and possesses Artemis' mother, making her appear ill. This forces present day Artemis to travel back in time to get the cure from the past Artemis. Opal then uses Artemis returning to the present to return to a few days before the present to make Artemis' mother ill in the first place. Ironically, this is all so she can aquire the secret of time travel.}}
** Not to mention, {{spoiler|Artemis had foggy memories of the past. When he went back in time, he left a note for Mulch to open the trunk Artemis and Holly were locked in. Also, the Mulch and Artemis of the past had their minds wiped, and since Artemis' wipe was a blanket wipe, there were still several remaining facts about fairies. By travelling back in time, Artemis caused himself to discover the fairy race. Whoa.}}
* Played with in the latest ''[[Thursday Next]]'' book, where they find that despite the existence of the [[Time Police|Chronoguard]], no one has actually ''invented'' time travel yet, so they assume that the technology much have been sent from the future and eventually they'll find the spot on the timeline where someone invented it to [[Stable Time Loop|close the gap]]. As one character describes it, it's like they're running the technology "off of borrowed credit." This causes trouble however, when the Chronoguard begins to realize that no one in the timeline ''ever'' invented time travel. The resulting paradox causes the system to unravel and gets rid of any further possibility of [[Time Travel]] in the series (although it seems everyone in the populace has a [[Ripple -Effect -Proof Memory]]).
** But by the nature of the series, couldn't someone just enter [[HG Wells]]'s novel and bring out a working time machine?
* In [[Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban]], {{spoiler|Harry and Hermione travel back in time for a number of reasons. During this time travel, Harry manages to save himself from dementors using an Expecto Patronum charm. The event is noted to have happened earlier in the book with Harry only glimpsing his mysterious saviour and thinking it looked a lot like his dad.}}
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* Played with in ''[[Primer]]''. As one of the characters says, "The ''last'' revision is apparently the one that counts." We find characters gradually losing their worries about causality; they wind up going back in time to relive the events of that same week in their original place -- apparently intending to do everything ''right'' this time. It appears that causing a paradox causes some kind of mild brain trauma to the time traveler involved. But then there's that other version of yourself that you drugged up and locked in the basement so you could replace him...
* ''[[Deja Vu (Film)|Deja Vu]]'' contradicted itself on terms of [[Temporal Paradox]]. First, it is implied that anything changed in past changes the present, as Doug causes the death of his partner, that was thought caused by the ferry explosion. Later, it is implied that the past has already been changed, as {{spoiler|the message "U CAN SAVE HER" in Claire's house was written by him}}, but in the end, it is contradicted, because {{spoiler|if he prevented the explosion, he could never have been assigned to the case, and thus could never do the time travelling, and so on...}}
* French-Canadian movie based from a cult tv show ''Dans une galaxie près de chez vous 2'' featured a spatio-dimensional rip (shaped like a zipper) who goes to present Earth. The Capitain was able to chuck down a DVD with their plea ([[Green Aesop|NOT to destroy the ozone layer]]) recorded on it. It backfired when the video got featured on ''[[YouTube]]'' and ridiculed as "[http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Kid:Star Wars Kid|Star Wars Twit]]" (Being bad at pronounciation dosen't help). Nevertheless, it might have pushed a younger version of the Capitain to go into space, directly ''and'' indirectly setting the events of the show into place.
* ''[[Austin Powers]]: The Spy Who Shagged Me'' shows Austin briefly attempting to reason why no time paradox has occurred due to he and Dr. Evil time traveling to a date where they logically shouldn't be. Basil Exposition puts his mind at ease
{{quote| Basil "I advise that you not worry about that sort of thing and.. just enjoy yourself [[Aside Glance|(faces audience)]] that goes for you all too."<br />
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** Similarly, the expansion sourcebook (currently trapped in [[Development Hell]]) ''Narcissist'' has a different take on this -- the original time traveler entered the "main" timeline's past and introduced time travel sometime around 14000 BC. Said time travel directly resulted in a [[The Singularity|singularity]] around 2500 AD, which then used its super-powerful minds and infinite resources to make ''sure'' that said time traveler never leaves our timeline (which would require a portal made out of X number of Temporal Paradoxes), and that time travelers don't cause the timeline to deviate from the history that led to the singularity. In alternate timelines away from "the swarm" -- agents of the Singularity, named that because there's a lot of them, but they're disorganized idiots -- paradoxes ''don't exist'': "frag" exists in the main timeline specifically due to the singularity's agents constantly trying to time-[[Mind Rape]] anyone attempting to change history.
* Time Travel is rare in ''[[Warhammer 40000 (Tabletop Game)|Warhammer 40000]]'', but the Warp does strange things sometimes, like sending ships off to answer their own distress signals. In another example, one Ork Warboss was sent back through time via warp-storm, met up with his past self, and [[Insane Troll Logic|killed his temporal doppelganger so he could have two copies of his favorite gun]]. The resulting confusion stopped the Waaagh! in its tracks.
* Averted in ''[[Genius: The Transgression (Tabletop Game)|Genius: The Transgression]]''. As the game puts it, it turns out the universe doesn't particularly care if your grandmother gets shot and there's no shooter -- barring [[Time Police|external intervention,]] you pop out of existence if you pull the trigger and the bullet hits home. This can have some interesting consequences, as the angry young lad seeking to avert a massacre in his country's history [[Ret -Gone|did not ]][[I Am Your Father|discover...]]
* In ''[http://dig1000holes.wordpress.com/time-temp/ Time and Temp]'', a paradox would [[Ret -Gone]] ''[[Earthshattering Kaboom|all of existence]]''. Office temps (hence the name of the game) are used as field agents to prevent this, because they're otherwise [[Mooks|unimportant]] enough to minimize the risk of personal [[Grandfather Paradox]] - though their potential for [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|incompetence]] is at odds with this.
* The ''[[GURPS (Tabletop Game)|GURPS]]'' Sourcebook ''GURPS Infinite Worlds'' includes a chapter exploring time travel and paradoxes.
 
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== Web Comics ==
* ''[[Something Positive|Super Stupor's]]'' Clockstopper can change history with his "Time Punch". (And he'd [http://www.superstupor.com/sust02132009.shtml rather be surfing] [[Shout -Out|TVTropes]] than fighting crime.)
* [http://www.cheercomic.com/?date=2008-01-31 This is confusing.] How is a flashback to the childhoods of the ''[[The Wotch|Cheer!]]'' girls even possible? Weren't they, you know, ''boys''? Just how much of the past did Miranda rewrite to cover up Anne's mistakes? Is it like what happens when a [[Misfile]] occurs? Argh...maybe it's best to pretend this isn't canon, especially seeing as there are [http://thewotch.com/index.php?epDate=2005-10-11 lots of] [http://thewotch.com/index.php?epDate=2005-10-19 people] [http://www.cheercomic.com/?date=2006-05-30 who still remember.]
** Well, three of the girls do not remember ever being anything ''but'' girls, so presumably their memories were altered. [[Plot Hole|As for Jo...]]
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