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The introductory sequence of episode 1 prior to the title card, featuring Captain Garlock about to take on all the heavenly lights in the sky, is the bad ending for the series, wherein Simon, instead of listening to the pleas of the Anti-Spiral, goes on to continue his space travels and becomes the Spiral Nemesis. The last shot of the scene before the series title and episode title is the last moments in the universe before Simon destroys everywhere and everywhen in Space-time with Chouginga Gurren Lagann and its Maelstrom Cannon.
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2008-07-28/gainax-on-gurren-lagann This interview] says that the opening was originally supposed to foreshadow the ending. Along the way, it was [[Retcon]]'d into an [[Alternate Universe]] where Simon does become the Spiral Nemesis.
* The obvious trigger of his action is {{spoiler|[[Love Makes You Crazy|Nia's death]]}}. How can he give up his power and authority now -- now that only he can set things right! Even if it means amassing enough mass and energy to risk the gravitational collapse of the universe. Even if it means leading the Dai-Gurren-Dan into war with every living being. [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|NOTHING is impossible to the truly audacious!]]
 
== The Prologue to Episode 1 takes place between the end of Episode 27 and the [[Distant Finale]] epilogue. ==
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To quote (with some changes) its entry into [[Calling Your Attacks]]: Pre-Time Skip, the only time that an attack's ''full'' name isn't shouted (''Certain Kill'' Giga Drill Breaker) and accompanied with a [[In the Name of The Moon]]-esque motivational speech, it fails epically. Compare [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s65n0PmvIm4&feature=related the first time], the [[Heroic BSOD]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ls5IP-SCA reboot,] and the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIqueRVryCE phail].
* Whilst it may seem attractive to think that the [[Rule of Cool]] is the only mechanism operating in TTGL, it's clear that the [[Rule of Funny]] exerts a significant force as well.
** And, of course, [[EverythingsEverything's Better With Spinning]].
* Your citations of [[Calling Your Attacks]] fail to take into account that despite ''Lagann Impact'' being the full name of the other big attack used in that battle, it too failed. [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Depressing]] though it may be that the [[Rule of Cool]] failed in that aspect, it also worked out - Lord Genome blocked it by grabbing it and subsequently detonating the Rasengan's arm. Hmmm…
** That was Lord Genome, [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]] character that he is, using his own [[Badass]] [[Rule of Cool]]-ery.
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** Holy crap, I just noticed the spirals on Golett and Golurk, you might be on to something here. Nevermind the fact that Golett evolves from a robot with stumpy limbs, like Gurren after Kamina managed to break both legs and arms immediately after stealing it, to a robot with more human limb proportions, like Gurren Lagann.
*** And they have ''spirals on them.''
* Expanding on this general theory, Spiritomb may be fragments of the Anti-Spiral [[Hive Mind]]. They are [[One Hundred and Eight|108]] spirits sealed away in Odd Keystones (which may be fragments of the Anti-Spiral homeworld), and have a backwards spiral in their left eye. They were said to have been sealed away for a bunch of misdeeds long ago; what if said misdeeds were their various campaigns against the Spiral races? Also, they are less intelligent since they are only made of 108 spirits, rather than billions; after all, being torn apart like that [[Mind Rape|mind raped]] them into an extremely destructive animal-like state.
** Cyrus may be an attempt to restore the Anti-Spiral race. Cyrus is [[The Stoic]], and wants to remake the universe to be without emotion. This would stunt Spiral Power permanetly. If he isn't the reincarnation of the Anti-Spirals, he's a secret project.
* Certain characters of both anime are related:
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They used to be genetic creatures, but they gave up their individuality in order to survive as a collective. Their giant mecha technology is about what the technology from Evangelion would become after a million years of progression, and their constant emphasis on Absolute Despair is borne out of everyone's constant angst.
* This may explain why there aren't any animals we know of(grape hippos, anyone?) All other organisms were Instrumentalised, so the surviving humans had to create new species.
* The Anti-Spiral King is Shinji Ikari himself. Not only is he insanely depressed, [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|what]] [[Moral Event Horizon|happened]] [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|to]] [[Nightmare Fuel|Nia]] must be an extension of [[A Date With Rosie Palms|what]] [[Dude, She's Like, in A Coma|Shinji]] [[Freud Was Right|did.]] "I'm so fucked up", ''indeed.''
 
== ''[[Bioboosted Armour Guyver]]'' is set in the same universe as [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]] ==
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== [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]] was created to be easy for its fans think up crossovers ==
Take this page as evidence.
* Well what do you expect from such a [[ClicheCliché Storm]]?
* Considering that the first thing that popped into my head when I heard about giant robots powered by self-confidence and heaping dozes of [[Large Ham]] was "what if [[Invader Zim|Zim]] got his hands on one of those?" you may be on to something.
 
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== The three kids piloting the Ganmen that make up Gurren Lagann in Parallel Works 6 are: ==
* [[Brother -Sister Incest|Gimmy and Darry's son]] in Lagann, Rossiu and Kinon's daughter in Gurren, and Yoko and Kittan's daughter in the flying Ganmen.
* Alternatively, Yoko and Kamina's son in Lagann, and {{spoiler|Viral's daughter}} in the flying Ganmen.
* Or, if you like the idea that these kids {{spoiler|should exist in the TTGL universe, and so half their parents are not dead before conception}}, Gimmy and Darry's son in Lagann and {{spoiler|Viral's daughter}} in the flying Ganmen. (Beastmen reproducing is impossible? [[A Wizard Did It|Spiral power!]]) All of these theories are courtesy MyAnimeList.net's Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann discussion board, where it's a universal agreement that Gurren is being piloted by Rossiu and Kinon's daughter, and that Simon and Nia's kid is just standing around.
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== The Spiral Nemesis is a [[Lensman Arms Race]] taken to an extreme ==
Since Spiral Beings have a drive to expand, unless they are held back, they will ultimately come into conflict with each other. Since Spiral Energy has no real limit and seems to increase the more a Spiral Being is put under stress, a war between two Spiral Races would escalate to potentially infinite levels. Remember, although the Anti-Spiral increased its energy to ''match'' Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's size and power, it never expanded enough to ''surpass'' it (The Anti-Spirals suck at confronting Spiral races head-on, instead they mostly rely on psychological warfare, hence their [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|Despair speeches]] and [[Lotus Eater Machine]]). Now imagine if two Giga Drill Breakers produced by two Super Tengen Toppa mechs collided and ''each one continued to expand in an effort to overwhelm the other''... this would explain why the discussion of peace at the end of the series was so important - even a minor war between Spiral Energy users would ultimately result in [[Mutually Assured Destruction]]. Thus, the use of Spiral Energy is kept in check by old-fashioned [[Cold War]] politics.
* That said, Spiral Energy is a metaphor for nuclear weapons.
 
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The narrator has the same voice actor in both Japanese ''and'' English. He's either just reminescing or telling it to someone. This leads to a series of subtheories:
# He is an [[Unreliable Narrator]] a la ''[[Three Hundred|300]]'', meaning this is all greatly exaggerated.
# The series is a reenactment. Agains, it's quite possibly [[Very Loosely Based Onon a True Story|dramatized/exaggerated.]] For additional evidence, we see a clip of Simon and Kamina recycled from the first episode being played in-series in episode 17 even though humanity didn't have video cameras then, and they couldn't have filmed from that angle (right in front of a charging molepig) if they had.
# It's completely made up: the narrator is telling a story that is fictional in-universe, either something a senile old man tells people or basically the same idea as in our world.
 
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== The Anti-Spirals are running a large part of the video game industry ==
* Continuing from the above, the Anti-Spirals were responsible for the death of the Dreamcast. But during Sega's decline in [[The Nineties|the mid-to-late 1990s]], and especially after they were out of the market, gaming took on a decidedly [[Darker and Edgier]] slant. First with [[Grand Theft Auto]]-style sandbox games set in [[Crime Time TV|crime-ridden cities]], then with [[Real Is Brown|realistic]] [[First -Person Shooter|First Person Shooters]] where the player is not an individual hero but a single soldier who may or may not have any real effect on the outcome of the war, games are going [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|down to the cynical end of the scale]], very much fitting with the Anti-Spiral motive of creating cynicism and despair. Nintendo and Sega, makers of decidedly more idealistic games that gave gaming actual "faces" like [[Super Mario Bros|Mario]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] (remember the ''faceless'' Anti-Spiral robots? And the "faceless" corporations they're using to take over gaming?), pissed off the Anti-Spirals to no end, so they directed their hate at those companies. Sega went down with their [[Dreamcast]], leaving the console market. Their niche was filled by Microsoft, a company even further divorced from "idealism" than Sony. It seemed like Nintendo, too would fall: the Gamecube was the bottom of its generation, and Anti-Spiral puppet corporation Sony was poised to enter the handheld market. It would supposedly destroy Nintendo there. All seemed dark, like the Spirals would fade from gaming altogether, until... '''[[Wii|ROW ROW]] [[Nintendo DS|FIGHT THE POWAH!]]''' You want even more proof? [http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html Go ahead, Ctrl+ F and search "Spiral".] Nintendo's "User Satisfaction as King" business strategy is called a Spiral! The "[["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|hardcore]]" FPS gamers, who by now are ''de facto'' Anti-Spirals, are pissed at Nintendo's strategy of expanding the market to all for fear that it will cause the gaming Spiral Nemesis, destroying video gaming's special niche in the culture. Oh, and [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] is Simon.
** [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] is Simon? '''''BADASS!!!''''' [[Tropers/Zelenal|I]] subscribe to this theory!
** Before taking over gaming, the Anti-Spirals took over the American comic book industry. The result was much the same: see [[Dark Age]].
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This one should, really, be obvious... but I figure it has to be written down.<br />The first fourth of the series ''(episodes 1-8)'' is almost literally a direct [[Expy]] of the 1960s super robot shows. Things like Mazinger Z and Getter Robo were incredibly formulaic and often disreguarded what few rules they invented if the show needed it. We can see this leaking through into the show via lovely examples like Kamina trying to combine their mecha in episode 3 ''(it works because... it just does)'', other mecha combinations not working in episode 4 ''(because... they just don't)'' and having many nonsensical plots in general ''(hello episode 6!)''. As if this wasn't enough, characterization tended to run rampant ''(Kamina's [[Flanderization]] into a [[Jerkass]] throughout episodes 4-6)'' and many episodes would run completely off-model ''(the QUALITY of episode 4, easily)''. As this story arc reached the end, we finally saw our '1960s-era main' of Kamina being phased out of the spotlight as Simon finally took the controls in episode 7 for the first time - and this arc ended with the death of Kamina in episode 8... the proverbial loss of innocence of the time.
 
The second fourth of the series ''(episodes 8-15)'' doesn't change much from the previous arc, but very much is more in line with the 1970s of giant robots. Plots are less episodic and feel more 'tied together' with a vague story arc, much like the later shows of the 1970s like Voltes, Combattler and Daimos. We also begin to get the hints of technobabble as things like 'Spiral Power' are mentioned in a hand-wave to how the mecha are powered - and our villains even begin to develop as characters. The latter is something that was almost completely ignored until shows like Voltes and Gundam premiered in the last three years of the 1970s. The ending of this story arc, of course, ends with the final battle with our villain... who, as it turns out, isn't completely evil either. The fact that Lord Genome comes off as a [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] in his final fight is just proof that the show itself has evolved toward the deeper 1970s shows from the shallower 1960s anime.
 
Our third segment of the series ''(episodes 17-23ish)'' shows vast changes, however, as we hit the 1980s. As [[Gundam]] vastly changed the concept of giant robots with having ''armies'' of not-so-special robots, we see the Graparal show up for duty - an MP version of the Gurren-Lagann in general. And rather than having over-the-top weaponry, these MP units simply have pistols and guns that are simple to replicate and re-arm. Also tying in with the simple fact that mecha shows slowly moved to develop the characters more in the 1980s ''(thanks to the premier of the OVAs, allowing for shows to focus less on being [[Merchandise -Driven]])'', the entire cast begin to grow as characters... getting actual development sometimes for the first time in the series. Compared to the first half of the series, this section of the show is almost a drastic shock - which is what the 1980s themselves were to the robot anime genre in general.
 
The final segment of the series ''(22ish through the end)'' is, of course, a love letter through to the modern day of giant robots. Things begin to get psychotic in scale and action ''([[Gao Gai Gar]])'', a psychological slant slips into the series ''([[Neon Genesis Evangelion]])'' and the so-called horrible villains become simply a mass species of [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|well intentioned extremists]] who took their deeds too far. The metaphor breaks down a little at this point - but only because the show itself has finally caught up to the era it's being made in.<br />Of course, that's just my personal theory on the show and themes within...
 
(Alternative, based on a theory seen elsewhere: the first fourth is Getter Robo/Mazinger etc. (i.e. the 1960s-70s) with the single combining [[Super Robot]], the second is Gundam-esque/1980s with the mecha team/army on a [[Cool Ship]], the third is Evangelion-esque/1990s with everything getting dark and angsty and things like civilian casualties/hatred of the heroes being prominent, and the finale is a distillation of all the best bits of 30+ years of mecha anime into one giant [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]].)
* I agree Gurren Lagann is a love letter to the genre, but actually, you get the evolution of the genre quite wrong, since all elements you think were added in the eighties or nineties were present at the beginning. ''[[Mazinger Z (Anime)|Mazinger Z]]'' and ''[[Getter Robo (Manga)|Getter Robo]]'' were pretty dark back then, they did not disregard their own rules, and technobabble were already present (Photon Eenrgy and Getter rays). People DIED -often in horrible ways-, cities were destroyed -and they were not magically reconstructed in the next episode-, the heroes often were target of civilian hatred in many episodes, and the villains were of the [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] (Dr. Hell) or [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] (King Gol) kind. And [[Getter Robo]] is, actually, a [[Cosmic Horror Story]], with heroes are [[Axe Crazy]] or [[Blood Knight]]. And then you have ''Anime/Zambot3'' high quote of mindscrewness... [[Super Robot Genre]] has always been pretty more complex than it is credited for.
* Huh... But wasn't it sorta declared canon by Gainax themselves?
** I think it was.
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== The Spiral Nemesis is the creation of a new [[Warhammer 40 K|Eye of Terror]] ==
Of course! It's so obvious! Love, hope, will, fighting spirit, all of the things that make humanity powerful and important are all fundamentally linked to the Ruinous Powers! The Anti-spirals are Eldar; using space-distortion, mind trickery, and techno-sorcery in an attempt to oppress intelligent life to prevent their mistakes! [[How Did We Miss This One?]]? Oh, and spiral power is warpcraft.
* I imagined a crossover like that once, and it was awesome. And would explain Ork's belief powers... Except that, unlike Spiral beings, they don't reproduce sexually, as they don't have genders.
** Orks = Beastmen?
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*** ''What the '''shit''' is more awesome that using '''galaxies''' as '''throwing stars'''??!''
**** Cutting off the mecha's arm and using a multiverse as a chainsaw, [[Evil Dead]] style, while using the other multiverses as swords.
**** Do you seriously think one would actually put whatever it is [[What an Idiot!|here on WMG and destroy the universe in the process?]] Okay, so the world doesn't work on Spiral Energy, but you catch my drift. Also, what if such an event is beyond human understanding?
** You know, I'm pretty sure the "makes galaxies look like moths" mecha was awesome enough to end the universe. In the movie, it and the Grand Zamboza were triggering the collapse of the Anti-Spiral universe.
* [[Awesomeness Is Volatile|Does letting Mr.T and Chuck Norris fight each other in Gurren Lagann-like Mecha count?]]
** Or does letting the [[Three Hundred|300]] Spartans fight in '''Tengen Toppa''' Gurren Lagann -like Mecha and having them proceed to kill an army of [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch]] [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Abominations]] ''[[The Matrix|in bullet time]]'' while accompanied by every [[Memetic Badass]] count?
*** How about the TTGL turn into a pocket universe shaped like a merger of Kamina and [[Memetic Mutation|the goddamn Batman]], with the voice of Mr T, holding a big f***ing sword composed of a thousand burning quasars, and whose ''skin cells'' are supernova continously going off. All while shouting "THIS!IS!SPIRAL NEMESIS!"
*** Nah, I'm thinking something else. I'm afraid it'll cause Spiral Nemesis just by describing it, but here goes. What about a massive flaming hole being torn through the universe straight through to the afterlife, through which Kamina, wearing a flaming crown and a flaming version of his cape and shades, sprouting [[Go Nagai Sideburns]], and [[Dual -Wielding]] [[Flaming Sword|Flaming]] [[Chainsaw Good|Chain]][[Warhammer 40 K|swords]], rides out on top of the head of his own Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, piloted by Kittan, Lord Genome, his generals, and everyone else on the non-Anti-Spiral side, which proceeds to gattai with the one used by Simon and the rest of the team, which is joined by [[Chuck Norris]], [[Mr. T]], [[Axe Cop (Webcomic)|Axe Cop]], [[The Adventures of Dr. McNinja (Webcomic)|Dr. McNinja]], [[Batman]], [[Avatar (Film)|Colonel Quaritch]], [[Three Hundred|Leondias and the Spartans]], [[God of War (Video Game)|Kratos]], Bruce Ironstaunch, [[Daniel Remar|reallyjoel's Dad]], [[Star Wars|Boba Fett, Darth Vader,]] [[Mobile Fighter G Gundam (Anime)|Domon, Master Asia, his horse]], [[Brian Blessed]], [[Theodore Roosevelt]], [[Firefly|River Tam]], [[Problem Sleuth]], [[Homestuck (Webcomic)|Bro, Equius, Mr. Egbert, Grandpa Harley]], [[Dragonball|Goku]], [[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Saxton Hale]], [[Dwarf Fortress|Morul, Captain Ironblood,]] [[Shin Mazinger|Kouji]], [[Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden|Charles Barkley,]] [[Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff|Hass the Rock]], [[F Zero|Captain Falcon]], [[The Man Your Man Could Smell Like (Advertising)|The Man Your Man Could Smell Like]], [[Gao Gai Gar|Guy]], [[Segata Sanshiro (Advertising)|Segata Sanshiro]], [[Power Rangers|Tommy Oliver]], [[Commando (Film)|John Matrix]], everyone else listed on the [[Memetic Badass]] page, and anyone not already listed who has appeared in [[Manly Guys Doing Manly Things]] to form a new mecha, which is the size of the ''entire'' universe, made of Spiral Energy, is shaped like Kamina in his aforementioned equipment, plus Lord Genome's beard and Simon's visor, both made of fire, with a Powerthirst-spewing fountain in its chest, flaming wings made out of lightsabers, and is riding an appropriately scaled-up [[Axe Cop (Webcomic)|Wexter]] in his rocket-winged dragon form while wielding [[Thirty Hs|Fuckslayer and a flaming groinsaw]], then proceeding to perform a Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Breaker with each limb, plus the head, and t
**** Throw [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill] somewhere in there.
***** Describing it in the actual universe will destroy it. Preforming it will [[Apocalypse How|trigger a Class Z]], probably even beyond. Perhaps that's the reason {{spoiler|the TARDIS exploded}}-this event occured, and space-time commited suicide because it could not handle the awesomeness. If creation has a God, He commited suicide as well. The Season 5 finale of Doctor Who is an attempt to prevent this suicide. Whoever's truly behind it wants ''all existence'' to have a [[Dying Moment of Awesome]].
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== The Anti-Spiral King is Shinji Ikari and the other Anti-Spirals are the instrumentalized humans. ==
A few possibilities. Maybe while Shinji was getting mind raped by instrumentality in a metaphysical sense, he was acting out the role of the Anti-Spiral King in a real, physical sense and his defeat at the hands of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is what really snapped him out of his wangst and led to him washing up on that beach. Alternatively, Shinji did choose instrumentality and [[Eo E]] is non canon. From here you can see the progression of events that lead to him becoming an Anti-Spiral. It's also possible that Gurren Lagann is one of the universes he created during his tenure as God. No matter which of these explanations is correct (if any) it does seem like an interestingly symbolic battle. A race of humans from a Humongous Mecha reconstruction against the very people who deconstructed it in the first place.
* This would give [[Moral Event Horizon|the]] [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|analysing]] [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|of]] [[The Woobie|Nia]] a [[Dude She Like In A Coma|very]] [[A Date With Rosie Palms|disturbing]] [[Nightmare Fuel|meaning.]]
 
== TTGL is the far future of the [[DC Universe]] -- specifically, [[Green Lantern (Comic Book)|Green Lantern]]. ==
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The Anti-Spirals described the Spiral Nemesis as a big crunch style event that would end the universe. However the word Nemesis implies that it is not just an event, but a tangible enemy that would rise up to destroy the universe. Spiral Energy can be considered analogous to the power of the emotional spectrum, which fueled the Lantern corps of the ancient past. Perhaps the Anti-Spirals learned about the [[Blackest Night]] through a similar prophecy as the one logged in the old Book of Oa, or through some other means, and feared that their over use of Spiral Energy would rouse [[Eldritch Abomination|Nekron]] [[Zombie Apocalypse|and his Black Lanterns]]. To that end they purged themselves of all emotions, suppressed any technology based on the emotional spectrum, and any sentient species with ability to use it.
 
So why did the Anti-Spirals deliberately lie about the nature of the Spiral Nemesis? Having observed Simon and the other Spiral Warriors the Anti-Spirals probably determined that if they described the Spiral Nemesis as some primal God of Darkness and Death then Simon and the others would only see him as [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|another enemy to drive their drills through]] and thus making it more likely that the Spiral Nemesis / [[Blackest Night]] [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|will come to pass.]]
 
In the end it was probably a good thing that Simon didn't try to resurrect Nia with spiral power, because I doubt even he would be prepared for the unmitigated horror (and undeniable awesomeness) of Black Lantern
Kamina!
* Alternatively,the Anti-Spirals ''are'' Black Lanterns. Both they and the Black Lanterns believe life is a threat to the universe, however the Anti-Spirals are an alternate version of them-one that is more [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|well-intentioned]] and is able to retain some emotion in unlife. Or the Black Lanterns are an experiment by the Anti-Spirals [[Gone Horribly Right]].
 
 
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== Kamina's awesomness is genetic. ==
He was the last descedant from long line of great heroes and his ancestors are [[Megas XLR|Coop]], [[Jo JosJo's Bizarre Adventure (Manga)|Jotaro Kujo]] (or any other Joestar), [[Getter Robo|Ryoma Nagare]], [[Bleach|Zaraki Kenpachi]] and [[Gao Gai Gar|Guy Shishioh]]
* So, [[Marathon (Video Game)|he has been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh. He has been called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.]]
 
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== Nia is TTGL 's equivalent of [[Super Mario Bros|Princess Peach]] ==
Starts off as a [[Moe Moe]] -esque [[Distressed Damsel|Distressed]] [[EverythingsEverything's Better With Princesses|Princess]] who after spending time with the protagonist [[Took a Level In Badass|Takes A Level In Badass]] and becomes as [[Hot Blooded]] as the protagonist. They even look alike.
* So, Bowser = Lordgenome?
** The Anti-Spirals (specifically the Grand Zamboa) might be the closest equivalent of Bowser. It is even more obvious with [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvsvvTPYn20&feature=related Parallel Works #1].
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== [[TV Tropes|TV Troppa]] [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Gurren Lagann!!!]] ==
Think about it. [[Epileptic Trees]] run on Spiral Power. TV Tropes itself is a cyberspace version of Lagann, and tropes drill throughout fiction. As these tropes drill through fiction, it assimilates everything unto itself, informalizes them, and through the inspiring informality that is so unlike [[The Other Wiki]], creates more Epileptic Trees in the process. In short, TV Tropes promotes Fanon-I mean turns normal fiction into Epileptic Tree generators. Eventually [[TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|these Epileptic Trees will reach critical mass]], [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|pierce the heavens, get in]] [[Real Life]], and cause [[The End of the World As We Know It]]. Or just turn the universe into ''Lost''.
* No, because tropers around the world, having [[Heroic Sacrifice|heroically sacrificed]] [[TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|their spare time and social life]] in the never-ending search of the ultimate Trope, are fully equipped to deal with [[Trope Overdosed|tropes running wild]]. We shall show up [[Big Damn Heroes|at the last second]], shout "[[Catch Phrase|WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!?]]" as one, and fire off a [[This Is a Drill|drill-shaped galaxy-wide]] [[Kamehame Hadoken]] made of [[The Power of Friendship|friendship]] and [[All Your Powers Combined|our combined knowledge of tropery]], [[Sealed Evil in A Can|banishing them back to the Internet]] [[Sequel Hook|until they arise once more]].
* Also, Fast Eddie and the Admin are getting aware of the Spiral Nemesis that [[This Very Wiki]] will induce. Hence why they are getting more rules-observant.
 
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== The TTGL universe was created by [[Haruhi Suzumiya]] after destroying her own universe. ==
[[Rule of Cool]] physics? Check. [[Large Ham]]? Check. [[Humongous Mecha]]? Check. [[EverythingsEverything's Better With Spinning|Spinning?]] Check.[[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Punching out Eldritch Abominations]] using [[Pure Awesomeness]]? Check. It makes sense that if Haruhi Suzumiya will create a new universe, it would be TTGL.
 
== The stone on Nia's ring is a [[Gao Gai Gar|G-Stone]] ==
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== In the movies, the Spiral Nemesis actually happened ==
Remember that bit near the end of the second movie where the [[Beam -O -War|two colliding Giga Drill Breakers]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pppoTBfG7XU briefly suck in all the galaxies in the Anti-Spiral dimension]? That was it. Both sides were too busy being [[Hot Blooded]] to even notice it happen. Luckily [[Heroic Willpower|their combined will to protect the universe]] made the Spiral Energy set off a Big Bang and recreate the universe exactly as it was.
 
== Attenborough is an adult version of [[Earth Bound Zero|Loid]] ==
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== The Anti-Spiral is an avatar of [[Cthulhu Mythos|Nyarlathotep]] ==
He [[Eldritch Abomination|warps reality, induces insanity,]] indulges in humans' absolute despair, hates humans (but can even make servants out of them, for example Lord Genome), and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|is black]]. Need to say more?
* It is even more obvious when we find out that Nia's name is a [[Meaningful Name]]: Nia Teppelin = '''Nya'''rlatho'''tep'''.
* Then what about the talk of protecting the universe?
** Nyarly does try to protect the universe to a degree (probably by keeping Azathoth asleep, which means decreasing the alarm clocks aka Spiral Energy around the universe, or if not that, through some unexplainable [[Blue and Orange Morality]]). Or he's just screwing with the protagonists.
* Heck, Chouginga Gurren Lagann even [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|punched out]] ''Yog-Sothoth'' himself (fires at ''every point in space and time'' remember?). And Yog is described as the Lovecraftian equivalent of [[God]], if not even more.
 
== Kamina is the distant descendant of [[Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water|Sanson]] ==
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* Actually, Viral's page on the Gurren Lagann wiki suggests that he may have been named after [[Enki Bilal]] - "Bilal" and "Viral" are pronounced the same in Japanese, "Enki" is his Gunman, and Bilal wrote a series of graphic novels called the Nikopol Trilogy, while Viral's theme song is called...Nikopol.
 
== The Anti-Spirals [[Omnicidal Maniac|aren't]] so [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|well-intentioned]] [[Complete Monster|after all]]. ==
Think about it. If the Anti-Spirals are really out to protect the universe from the Spiral Nemesis, why are they so bent on the ultimate extermination of all Spirals? Why are they so bent on torturing others to despair and death? Why have they become [[Those Who Fight Monsters]]? If they kill off all the Spirals, they'll be the only ones left. Also, Notice how they have absolutely no proof about Spiral Nemesis or that Spiral Power is dangerous, and if they're really cosmic entities then they should realize that in scientific measurements the universe is infinite and expanding (Dark Energy), the universe will always have room for more Spiral Power and if that's not enough, they can spread it onto the black seas of infinity outside the universe. They're using the Spiral Nemesis as an excuse; they simply want to [[Kill 'Em All]] because they're [[Fantastic Racism|Fantastic Racists]]. They're [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|deranged]] [[Hypocrite|hypocrites]] who latched on to an unproven theory, not to protect the universe, but solely because they have no desire beyond [[Omnicidal Maniac|killing every last "inferior" Spiral species]]. They're [[The Sociopath|sociopathic]] [[Complete Monster|monsters]] who are merely trying to rationalize their cruelty and selfishness, merely because [[Put Them All Out of My Misery|they view every other lifeform as a disgusting disease]].
 
TL;DR: Anti-Spirals are [[A Nazi By Any Other Name|Space Nazis]].
* No, they're [[Doctor Who (TV)|Kaleds that Davros didn't get to mess with.]]
* Alternatively, they are this and [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|trying to save the universe.]] Much like Dr Finitevus, they are [[Complete Monster|absolutely evil]], yet so demented [[Knight Templar|they think they're helping out the universe.]] Which, in an utterly twisted way, they are doing.
** That's... [[Fridge Brilliance|PERFECT]]!
 
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== Leeron is the most manly character in the TTGL world. ==
However, he consciously knew that if he kept it up humanity would die out from [[Even the Guys Want Him|the supermassive Black Hole of highly-compressed GAR]] (the only [[Designer Babies]] are Beastmen, remember?), and subconsciously knew that it would cause the universe's supply of [[Hot Blooded|Hot Bloodedness]] to run out {{spoiler|Or rather, overload the universe if he got within a hundred miles of a lagann}}. When he decided to start acting camp [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not Awesome?|for the future of all humanity]], he found he quite liked it.
* He's so manly he doesn't need women at all!
** He's so manly it loops back to [[Camp Gay]], ala digit overflow
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== The Anti-Spirals are still out there. ==
Not the Anti-Spiral race our heroes fought. No. Unknown to our heroes,the Anti-Spirals had allied with the only race they could trust - [[Mechanical Lifeforms|a race of machines.]] When the Anti-Spirals were beaten, said robots decided, after watching the [[Ax Crazy]] [[Large Ham]] of the Anti-Spiral leader, that ''all living things'' could lead to Spiral Nemesis, and as non-living things, [[Kill All Humans|they must wipe out life]] [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|so it cannot occur.]]
* [[Warhammer 40000|Necrons]]?
* However, not all of these [[Mechanical Lifeforms]] seek the destruction of life. Some - some will come to protect the Spirals, and refused to ally with the Anti-Spirals. Most will come to destroy them. They were the dream - [[Mechanical Lifeforms]] able to [[Transforming Mecha|transform]] their bodies into [[Cool Car|ve]][[Cool Plane|hi]][[Tank Goodness|cl]][[Cool Starship|es]]; a last line of defense against the [[Omnicidal Maniac|all who oppose Spiral life]]! They are at war, heroic Autobot pitted against evil Decepticon, both on their homeworld of Cybertron and throughout the universe! They are the universe's last hope, they are - '''[[Transformers]]'''!
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== The series is a [[Spiritual Successor]] to [[Final Fantasy X]] ==
Spiral themes are present in both series, and Lordgenome can be paralleled to Yunalesca in the sense the system they developed were "saving" mankind and Yu Yevon is parallel to the Anti-Spiral and the heroes defeat the big bad by taking a third option, refusing the [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|extremist, but well-intended]], sort of, solutions.
 
== TTGL is the distant future of [[Mobile Fighter G Gundam (Anime)|G Gundam]]. ==
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== Kamina isn't gone... ==
* When he died, he became reincarnated as the show's physics/laws of the universe. [[Rule of Cool]]? More like RULE OF KAMINA. If you want to take it farther, it can explain the [[Stripperiffic]] nature of some of the outfits.
** Yes, he was reincarnated, but not within the same world. You see, Kamina was a reality-warping hero who learned from childhood to laugh in the face of danger, dare to do the impossible, and cheer on the people around him even if everyone else thought him crazy. His first act as an adventurer was to break through the wall (well, ceiling) thought to be the edge of reality. And as he lay dying, his last thoughts were about how cute Yoko was, about his great friends, and about how someone ought to throw a victory party. And so he got a new chance at life where he'd do pretty much the same thing, under the name... Pin'''kamena'''. Aka. [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|"Pinkie Pie"]].
*** No. NO NO NO NO NO. Wow, no. As if the Mighty Kamina would be anywhere near something as girly as "My Little Ponies!" Ha ha ha... besides, he'd totally be Rainbow Dash. HIS ARE THE RAINBOOMS THAT PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
** So he didn't die so much as he ''became Spiral Energy itself?'' In other words, [[Star Wars|he became one]] [[Ascend To A Higher Plane Of Existance|with the Spiral]]. The same thing happened to Lord Genome, seeing as it was his death that provided Team Dai-Gurren with the energy to create the [Super] Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
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* Type I: Tolerance. These only qualify in terms of the fact they aren't affected by evolution, and the Anti-Spirals don't feel [[Fantastic Racism]] to them.
* Type II: Appreciation. These members of C.A.A.S are not only unaffected by evolution/have abandoned it, but wish to suppress the change associated with it. The Anti-Spirals appreciate the effort, but do not agree with the reason. Indeed, [[Reliable Traitor|many will ultimately betray them.]] [[Genre Savvy|They've]] [[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|prepared for this.]]
* Type III: Acceptance. They not only qualify for the previous two types, but they're trustworthy. They possess the same [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|"trying to help out"]] quality. Some {{Anti-Villian are better showing it}} [[Knight Templar|than others.]]
 
* The ultimate goal? [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|Save the multiverse from the forces of change and evolution]], [[Lawful Evil|by completely suppressing it.]] This is achieved in two ways.
** The most direct is the Spiral Annihilation Program. Using a nearby satellite, they will design it to crash into the planet if the population exceeds one million
** Agents. These agents are individuals that the Anti-Spirals use in order to enforce the suppression of Spiral Power. Sometimes, they use a group or organization for this.
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* All [[Mechanical Lifeforms]], full stop. Since machines aren't living organisms, they can't truly reproduce or evolve. And they don't have DNA, either. Certain [[Mechanical Lifeforms]] [[Kill All Humans|can be considered Type II.]]
* [[Our Zombies Are Different|The unliving]], [[Our Ghosts Are Different|the souls]] our anything which no longer lives. Much like machines, their inability to reproduce and non-living nature means the Anti-Spirals do not consider them dangerous to the multiveerse
* [[Green Lantern (Comic Book)|The Guardians.]] Their [[The Spock|utter lack of emotion]] and dedication to order, combined with the lack of reproducing, is a good example of this. The Anti-Spirals [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|saw promise with their Alpha Lanterns and suppressing emotions of the Green Lantern Corps.]] Similarly, {{Sinestro a certain terror-wielding Korugarian}} is considered a useful tool to them.
* [[The Bible|YHWH.]] Considering the guy can create an entire universe [[Clarke's Third Law|with or without technology]], is order incarnate and [[Place Beyond Time|exists in the neverwhen/neverwhere]], the Anti-Spirals are very interested [[Eldritch Abomination|with whatever He is.]] [[Cthulhu Mythos|They also think about using Azathoth to manipulate it.]]
 
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* [[Doctor Who (TV)|The Daleks.]] The Daleks refuse to change and want to [[Absolute Xenophobe|kill all non-Daleks.]] The Anti-Spirals are cautious with them, and know they will try to betray them. [[Omnicidal Maniac|They are trying to find Davros]], [[Joker Immunity|wherever he is]], and create a more discriminating Reality Bomb to erase spiral life-forms.
* [[The Matrix|The Machines.]] Their complete control and restriction of Spiral Power has been quite handy for the Anti-Spirals. It is said that the Machine subconsciously based the Matrix off the Multiversal Labyrinth. {{spoiler|After letting the humans be free, they have gone down to Type I.}}
* [[Nineteen Eighty -Four|The ideology of Ingsoc in general]]. The Party actually succeeded in bringing themselves and the world into [[Despair Event Horizon|complete absolute despair]], unable to progress ''ever'', with things like curiosity or [[No Sex Allowed|sex]] stamped out (and their neurologists are working on it) through [[Room 101|sheer fear]]. The reason they're Type II rather than Type III is that because ironically their system of Absolute Despair is itself powered by power hunger, war hysteria and a constant "[[With Us or Against Us]]" state, also the best emotional states for channeling Spiral Energy, and because the Party is warlike to the extreme, the Anti-Spirals are just as wary as they are with the Daleks (The Antispirals also don't use Room 101 against fully-developed spirals like Simon or use Room 101 on the vast majority of the Proles because they knew that fear can sometimes lead to anger which in spiral energy translates to destruction) Perhaps when the orgasm is neurologically abolished and [[Newspeak]] fully implemented on the entire population to label all concepts related spiralist progress as thought-crime can the Party move to Type III.
 
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* Beastmen cannot harness Spiral Power, [[Can't Have Sex Ever|because they're infertile.]]
* Their shouting when using Spiral Power sounded [[The Immodest Orgasm|like something]] [[The Grunting Orgasm|else.]]
* The {{spoiler|Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann}} had everybody combining. ''[[A Party - Also Known As an Orgy|Naked.]]''
 
== Lord Genome's home era is the near future/21st century. ==
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== Rossiu is the Anti Spiral from the Episode One clip ==
Ok, so hear me out on this one. It’s already been fairly established the beginning of the first episode was basically an alternate future where Simons spiral power went out of control and caused the Spiral Nemesis. Well let’s take that a step further with the fact the Anti Spiral planet was basically sitting in its own little pocket dimension and looks suspiciously like Earth. Rossiu, being the [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] that he is, would certainly have gone the Anti-Spirals route to protect the Earth and also be willing to breach other Space/Time domains to prevent it from happening again. Additionally, consider the fact the Anti-Spirals treated the Spiral Nemesis as a known rather than just a logical theory. It would also make Nias “You don’t understand…” to which the Anti Spiral responds “Understanding is not required…” an Ironic echo to Rossius’ comment that Simon “Did not understand”. Also there almost seemed to be a personal touch to the way the Anti-Spiral targeted Simon, more than just the tactics of despair he seemed to need to prove to Simon Spiral energy would be the doom of everything. Which given his lack of Spiral Energy and distrust in it, ordering the Gunmen to be scrapped in favor of much more science driven Grapearls.
== ''Spore'' is set in the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann universe. ==
Humans were just driven underground by the time your species has reached the space stage, Teppelin has yet to be built.
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