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**** [[Two Words: Obvious Trope|Three Words]]: Giant Naked <s> Rei</s> Nia
** Zen Survivor dark figure/father of a protagonist: Gendo and Lord Genome, both of whose goals are tied to their "hell": Gendo to continue abusing the power to revive the dead, Lord Genome to keep others from following his path.
* Similar plot points: The creation of the prototype (Gurren Lagann), and the copies being inferior. [[Heroic BSOD]] of the main character after the death/near death of a close friend. Splitting into alternate universes and coming back. The only difference is that Shinji ends up numb, broken and on the verge of suicide, while Simon snaps out of it, [[Took a Level Inin Badass|Takes A Level In Badass]], and becomes even more awesome than Kamina.
** Does the Instrumentality sequence at the end of ''End of Evangelion'' happen in reverse in episode 26 in ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'', where the spirit of Kamina rescues the characters bodily from the Anti-Spiral's illusory world?
** The Anti-Spirals already created giant robots of their own to fight against... something (not sure what). They slowly realized that the more they fought, the faster they doomed themselves. They gave in to dispair and Instrumentalized themselves, becoming an all-powerful being that could bend the very fabric of reality.
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* Or Guame as the little armidillo was, like Boota, a source of spiral energy and evolved ''himself'' into a humanoid in the same way that Boota did.
 
== The events of the prologue are part of the God-Emperor of Mankind's ridiculously long-term plan - and hence part of [[Warhammer 4000040,000]]. ==
Alt!Boota's "All the lights in the heavens are our enemies", with a bit of [[Darker and Edgier|GRIMDARKNESS]] re-phrasing, sounds awfully like the standard Imperium of Man xenophobic creed. The raising of Captain Garlock was carried out by Custodes under the orders of the God-Emperor far from Imperium-controlled space. The Gunmen are a type of Titan designed by the God-Emperor separate from the Adeptus Mechanicus. Someday in the future, Captain Garlock and the Dai-Gurren Brigade will return to use the TTGL to [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|put the smackdown on the Chaos Gods and the C'tan]] and then revive the God-Emperor.
* Or ''Simon'' is the God Emperor of Mankind. He's about to kick off the first great crusade that will render Man lord of the galaxy and trample thousands of 'lesser' spiral races. Little does he know that this will realise the Antispirals' greatest fear: the vast upheavals of Spiral Energy during the crusade will drive the gods of 'super-spiral space' to never before seen levels of power, empowering them to corrupt several of his Dai-Gurren-Dan against him. The rest is (future) history.
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== The Anti-Spirals are Tragic Heroes against the Expansionist and Racist Species Humanity ==
Post-timeskip, we see that humanity keeps expanding without limit, much like a virus; the persecution of the beastmen that follows shows their intolerance. That may have been the tip of the iceberg as far as humanity's conquests went, and they possibly left hundreds or thousands of worlds barren or burning and their inhabitants dead or enslaved simply because they believed they could go anywhere and do anything - much like the Imperium of the [[Warhammer 4000040,000]] universe. The Anti-Spirals may be [[Sufficiently Advanced Alien]]s that have watched humans from the beginning of their prehistory and hoped they would learn tolerance, self-control, and moderation; when they could no longer bear to see world after world be conquered, they decided to intervene. The downside was that confinement and despair only made humans more aggressive, and now they may spread farther and more ruthlessly simply to avoid being confined again.
* Except we see that there's quite a few beastmen living with all the humans with no problem. There's no evidence that beastmen are somehow persecuted othe that the prison apparently being full of them; we can always rationalise that many of them are violently anti-human, refusing to give up the war they just lost) and are kept separate for the human criminals' safety. That Simon was put there is either a sign that they felt he could take care of himself or a sign that his jailers were angry at him.
* This may be the backstory behind Parallel Works #4.
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* another possibility why he could not beat them is that he could not beat them because spiral power runs on your self determination, and the anti-spiral lost heart when he saw just how powerfull the gurren brigade got. notice how every line he says after Lordgenomes CMOA sounds a little more scared and panicked?
 
== [[Warhammer 4000040,000|Orks]] know how to harness Spiral Energy ==
They can make things work that shouldn't work through sheer willpower, can make things faster through sheer willpower, etc. In short, they can make the impossible possible.
* This Troper now knows what he has to do: He must make a Gurren Lagann-themed Ork army, complete with a Boss wearing Kamina's sunglasses, cape, and blue wig.
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If it wasn't already self-evident, [[This Troper]] has confirmed it.
 
== The Spiral Nemesis is the creation of a new [[Warhammer 4000040,000|Eye of Terror]] ==
Of course! It's so obvious! Love, hope, will, fighting spirit, all of the things that make humanity powerful and important are all fundamentally linked to the Ruinous Powers! The Anti-spirals are Eldar; using space-distortion, mind trickery, and techno-sorcery in an attempt to oppress intelligent life to prevent their mistakes! [[How Did We Miss This One?]]? Oh, and spiral power is warpcraft.
* I imagined a crossover like that once, and it was awesome. And would explain Ork's belief powers... Except that, unlike Spiral beings, they don't reproduce sexually, as they don't have genders.
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** Or does letting the [[300]] Spartans fight in '''Tengen Toppa''' Gurren Lagann -like Mecha and having them proceed to kill an army of [[Eldritch Abomination|Eldritch]] [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Abominations]] ''[[The Matrix|in bullet time]]'' while accompanied by every [[Memetic Badass]] count?
*** How about the TTGL turn into a pocket universe shaped like a merger of Kamina and [[Memetic Mutation|the goddamn Batman]], with the voice of Mr T, holding a big f***ing sword composed of a thousand burning quasars, and whose ''skin cells'' are supernova continously going off. All while shouting "THIS!IS!SPIRAL NEMESIS!"
*** Nah, I'm thinking something else. I'm afraid it'll cause Spiral Nemesis just by describing it, but here goes. What about a massive flaming hole being torn through the universe straight through to the afterlife, through which Kamina, wearing a flaming crown and a flaming version of his cape and shades, sprouting [[Go Nagai Sideburns]], and [[Dual-Wielding]] [[Flaming Sword|Flaming]] [[Chainsaw Good|Chain]][[Warhammer 4000040,000|swords]], rides out on top of the head of his own Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, piloted by Kittan, Lord Genome, his generals, and everyone else on the non-Anti-Spiral side, which proceeds to gattai with the one used by Simon and the rest of the team, which is joined by [[Chuck Norris]], [[Mr. T]], [[Axe Cop]], [[The Adventures of Dr. McNinja|Dr. McNinja]], [[Batman]], [[Avatar (film)|Colonel Quaritch]], [[300|Leondias and the Spartans]], [[God of War (series)|Kratos]], Bruce Ironstaunch, [[Daniel Remar|reallyjoel's Dad]], [[Star Wars|Boba Fett, Darth Vader,]] [[Mobile Fighter G Gundam|Domon, Master Asia, his horse]], [[Brian Blessed]], [[Theodore Roosevelt]], [[Firefly|River Tam]], [[Problem Sleuth]], [[Homestuck|Bro, Equius, Mr. Egbert, Grandpa Harley]], [[Dragon Ball|Goku]], [[Team Fortress 2|Saxton Hale]], [[Dwarf Fortress|Morul, Captain Ironblood,]] [[Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-hen|Kouji]], [[Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden|Charles Barkley,]] [[Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff|Hass the Rock]], [[F-Zero|Captain Falcon]], [[The Man Your Man Could Smell Like]], [[GaoGaiGar|Guy]], [[Segata Sanshiro]], [[Power Rangers|Tommy Oliver]], [[Commando (film)|John Matrix]], everyone else listed on the [[Memetic Badass]] page, and anyone not already listed who has appeared in [[Manly Guys Doing Manly Things]] to form a new mecha, which is the size of the ''entire'' universe, made of Spiral Energy, is shaped like Kamina in his aforementioned equipment, plus Lord Genome's beard and Simon's visor, both made of fire, with a Powerthirst-spewing fountain in its chest, flaming wings made out of lightsabers, and is riding an appropriately scaled-up [[Axe Cop|Wexter]] in his rocket-winged dragon form while wielding [[Thirty Hs|Fuckslayer and a flaming groinsaw]], then proceeding to perform a Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Breaker with each limb, plus the head, and t
**** Throw [[wikipedia:Jack Churchill|Lieutenant Colonel John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming "Jack" Churchill]] somewhere in there.
***** Describing it in the actual universe will destroy it. Preforming it will [[Apocalypse How|trigger a Class Z]], probably even beyond. Perhaps that's the reason {{spoiler|the TARDIS exploded}}-this event occured, and space-time commited suicide because it could not handle the awesomeness. If creation has a God, He commited suicide as well. The Season 5 finale of Doctor Who is an attempt to prevent this suicide. Whoever's truly behind it wants ''all existence'' to have a [[Dying Moment of Awesome]].
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== Nia is TTGL 's equivalent of [[Super Mario Bros.|Princess Peach]] ==
Starts off as a [[Moe Moe]] -esque [[Damsel in Distress|Distressed]] [[Everything's Better with Princesses|Princess]] who after spending time with the protagonist [[Took a Level Inin Badass|Takes A Level In Badass]] and becomes as [[Hot-Blooded]] as the protagonist. They even look alike.
* So, Bowser = Lordgenome?
** The Anti-Spirals (specifically the Grand Zamboa) might be the closest equivalent of Bowser. It is even more obvious with [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvsvvTPYn20&feature=related Parallel Works #1].
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== The Anti-Spirals are still out there. ==
Not the Anti-Spiral race our heroes fought. No. Unknown to our heroes,the Anti-Spirals had allied with the only race they could trust - [[Mechanical Lifeforms|a race of machines.]] When the Anti-Spirals were beaten, said robots decided, after watching the [[Ax Crazy]] [[Large Ham]] of the Anti-Spiral leader, that ''all living things'' could lead to Spiral Nemesis, and as non-living things, [[Kill All Humans|they must wipe out life]] [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|so it cannot occur.]]
* [[Warhammer 4000040,000|Necrons]]?
* However, not all of these [[Mechanical Lifeforms]] seek the destruction of life. Some - some will come to protect the Spirals, and refused to ally with the Anti-Spirals. Most will come to destroy them. They were the dream - [[Mechanical Lifeforms]] able to [[Transforming Mecha|transform]] their bodies into [[Cool Car|ve]][[Cool Plane|hi]][[Tank Goodness|cl]][[Cool Starship|es]]; a last line of defense against the [[Omnicidal Maniac|all who oppose Spiral life]]! They are at war, heroic Autobot pitted against evil Decepticon, both on their homeworld of Cybertron and throughout the universe! They are the universe's last hope, they are - '''[[Transformers]]'''!
 
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== Spiral Power ''doesn't'' violate [[Equivalent Exchange]] ==
What we witness as "creating matter and energy out of nothing" is just tapping the powers of [[Another Dimension]] (or dimensions) whose immense energies then spiral out into our universe and then transformed into matter by manipulating Einstein's Mass-energy equation (E=MC^2), said matter is assimilated into Lagann's drills. "Spirals" are just psychic humans with a lot of testosterone and [[Id, Superego and Ego|Id]], and when they "produce" spiral power, they are just subconsciously "calling" this dimension, and the energy can then spiral out through the transmission point (in other words, [[Summon Magic]]). Of course, if the transmission comes from a lone Spiral it would be too weak and too subtle, so spiral technology amplifies this transmission (think of the drills as antennae). Spiral Nemesis will come when because there are so much Spirals the real universe and the high-energy dimension will merge, transforming the universe into an [[Eldritch Location]], ala [[Warhammer 4000040,000|Eye of Terror]].
 
== Lordgenome once had a daughter, who died at the age of fourteen. ==
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