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* "When under trial, let no one say: 'I am being tried by God.' For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire." (James 1:13-14)
** "[...]Behold, this evil is of the Lord". Also see Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38, Amos 3:6.
* Question: Are you trying to ''blame'' Yahweh or just stating a fact? There is a difference between [[Kick the Son of Aa Bitch|evil as part of justice]] and [[For the Evulz|evil as badness or wrongdoing]]. The verses you mentioned were about the ''former'', while James 1:13-14 is about the ''latter''. You can't possibly be blaming God for every bad thing every human does, right? Which "evil" are you referring to?
 
'''Satan is the [[God of Evil]]''': Other than Job and maybe Revelation (aside from the chapters concerning the Beast), there's little to indicate that Satan is the [[God of Evil]] of Christian mythology. Indeed, if anything, while [[Satan Is Good]] is maybe only applicable to the OT, he appears to be a quite minor malicious agent at most, and maybe even just an epithet for any random fallen angel, not a single entity.
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** This is something this (Christian) Troper has thought about a lot, and has come to the conclusion that God probably took this into account. This Troper is pretty sure God wouldn't overlook such a blatant flaw in His own religion.
** You're thinking about it as if Heaven is exactly the same as Earth, except nobody dies. That's not the case. Heaven is something that we, as mortal humans, simply cannot understand. If you're trying to understand God as if He is human or as if Heaven is something like Earth, then you're doing it wrong.
** According to some, Heaven/New Earth is a place where we all work towards our flourishing, in joy of the one we were made for (God). It's a place where deeds are celebrated regardless of who did it, and where we will be able to do many things we couldn't before (one example [[CSC. LewisS. (Creator)Lewis|CS Lewis]] mentioned was walking on water). Besides, just because we have an infinite amount of time doesn't mean that in heaven we won't have an infinite-30% amount of things to do (which is still infinity if I remember my math concepts), and if we in our humanity couldn't come up with anything more, perhaps God could create something more. Also, think of it like your time in the summer, fall and spring moved into a moment only you enjoyed it all because your best friend and King was actually there to help you and play with you and advise you all that time. But referring to the immediate above poster, we still are limited, so until Revelation, we'll just have to think for the most part.
** I always thought heaven would be like what a sinless world is like in Ted Dekker's [[Circle Series]], i.e., a playing ground for humans and God.
 
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* The story about Samson and Delilah. Is it just an [[Ur Example]] of [[Too Dumb to Live]], or is Samson's inexplicable inability to smell the rat supposed to have some deeper meaning?
** The time bwteen Delilah's betrayal is never mentioned. It's likely that they happened many years apart, during which time Samson would have fallen back to being madly in love with her and forgotten past greivances. Still, he's definitely holding th [[Idiot Ball|idiot ball]].
** Samson makes a lot more sense when I imagine him as Lenny from ''[[Memento (Film)|Memento]]''...
* What bugs me a bit is that for all the claims about God's omnipotence and omniscience floating about (including on this page)...the Bible itself seems to do a poor job to back them up. Sure, He's ''immensely'' powerful and, presumably, knowledgeable -- creating Heaven and Earth is no small feat just for starters. But ''infinitely'' so? Setting aside the fact that that would be hard to actually demonstrate, He sure doesn't seem to ''act'' the part very convincingly...
** Well, the infinite clause is assumed since he created, well, everything (assuming of course he exists). He/They/It's the essence that brought forth all existence with Heaven, Hell, Physical Reality, etc., so he had to be infinite otherwise philisophically we'd be right back at the same problem of the "first domino" (you can't go back an infinite amount of dominoes, otherwise the chain would never start). Perhaps in literary tradition the bible isn't the best way to show God's Infinite ways. It all depends on how you look at it.
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== In regards to Christian attitudes about Satan ==
 
As [[Mark Twain]] [[Cry for Thethe Devil|eloquently put it]], why bother to pray for sinners when you don't pray for the person who supposedly needs it most?
 
Also, why accusing someone of deceit if all you have yourselves is verses that went through billions of mistranslations?