The Dark Knight Returns/YMMV: Difference between revisions

No edit summary
 
(7 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 1:
{{work}}
==== ''[[The Dark Knight Returns]]'': The Comic ====
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: ''The Dark Knight Returns'' and ''The Dark Knight Strikes Again'' presented Batman as a dangerously-obsessed, deeply-disturbed, paranoid control freak who is possibly a mentally ill [[Sociopathic Hero]] as opposed to the stalwart Caped Crusader of the Golden and Silver ages and the Adam West series. This interpretation is touched on [[Depending Onon the Writer]] and sometimes it is the basis for whole story arcs.
** One example is his creation of the Brother [[Mk I]] satellite which was created by Batman to keep an eye on all of the meta-humans, hero and villain alike.
** Another story, Tower of Babel, centers on Ra's Al Ghul obtaining a file containing Batman's contingency plans to cripple each and every member of the Justice League "just in case" and using them to his own ends. The existence of the files and the secrecy under which they are kept infuriates The League and leads to his expulsion.
** This is hinted at in ''[[The Dark Knight Saga|The Dark Knight]]''.
*** Another issue of interpretation is whether he became a man the night his parents died, or if he never truly grew
* [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene]]: Batman of all people quotes [[Monty Python]].
* [[Complete Monster]]: [[The Joker]].
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Lots of people like to imagine that ''[[The Dark Knight Strikes Again]]'' doesn't exist. And even though [[Word of God]] confirms that ''[[All -Star Batman and Robin The Boy Wonder]]'' is this book's prequel, plenty of fans are happy to ignore this.
** Batman himself comes dangerously close to this in ''[[The Dark Knight Strikes Again]]''.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Lots of people like to imagine that ''[[The Dark Knight Strikes Again]]'' doesn't exist. And even though [[Word of God]] confirms that ''[[All Star Batman and Robin The Boy Wonder]]'' is this book's prequel, plenty of fans are happy to ignore this.
* [[Follow the Leader]]: This miniseries singlehandedly ushered in the new age of Cranky Batman.
* [[Genre Turning Point]]: ''[[The Dark Knight Returns]]'' and ''[[Watchmen]]'' pretty much ushered in the [[Dark Age]] of comics.
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]:
** The depiction, manner and philosophy of the Mutants are frankly eerily similar to the more abusive "Anonymous" cells online. Bear in mind, this is referring to the steal-your-identity-and-send-you-death-threats type of Anonymous and not the image board type of Anonymous.
** Two-Face trying to destroy Gotham's Twin Towers with a bomb, seven years before the same thing was attempted on the real Twin Towers with a car bomb. Later on, [[The War Onon Terror|of course,]] {{spoiler|a 747 crashes into same said towers, destroying them and setting Gotham on fire}}. ''Fourteen'' years before the same thing happened in [[Real Life]].
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]] : This came decades before the meme actually started, but take a look at this quote:
{{quote| '''Mutant Gang Member''': ''(after being attacked by a bat)'' It's just a [[All Star Batman and Robin|goddamned]] [[Goddamned Bats|bat]].}}
* [[Hype Backlash]]
* [[Older Than They Think]]: The Swastika pastie woman who attracted so much disbelief in ''[[All Star DC Comics|All Star Batman and Robin]]''.
** The Swastika pastie woman who attracted so much disbelief in ''[[All Star DC Comics|All Star Batman and Robin]]''.
* [[Take That]]: The Mutants can be seen as a [[Take That]] to "angsty", rebellious teen superheroes made popular by [[Marvel Comics]]. They're named the Mutants ([[Stan Lee]]'s working title for ''[[X Men (Comic Book)|X Men]]''), they wear red shades that look a lot like [[X Men (Comic Book)|Cyclops']] visor, and they despise adult authority figures. They form a perfect contrast to Batman, who's the epitome of the "traditional" DC superhero--an adult superhero who's driven and fearless, and has zero tolerance for crime.
** In a spin-off of this comic, Miller very subtly, that is, not at all, made [[Donald Trump]] an ally of the Joker, that helped win the elections for president on that world. Many were shocked by this, believing Miller was a republican, but in this comic [[Ronald Reagan]] is similarly portrayed in horrible light.
* [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]]: Batman vs. Superman. Booyah again.
 
==== ''[[The Dark Knight Returns (Filmfilm)|The Dark Knight Returns]]'': The Film ====
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: The fact it's getting made, for starters. The casting of [[Peter Weller]] as the voice of Batman was also met with general fan approval.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Aside from Joker in Part 2, the Mutant Leader from Part 1 might qualify as well. Before we even see him, it's established that he leads the mutants in their atrocities such as kidnapping a child for ransom and murdering him even after getting the money. When he first appears, it's made clear that he's a brutal, animalistic thug who plans to kill Gordon and Batman in horrifyingly gruesome ways and while fighting Batman he expresses cannibalistic tendencies.
 
{{reflist}}