The Dark Knight Saga/YMMV: Difference between revisions

* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: In [[Batman Begins]], {{spoiler|the League Of Shadows crosses this upon actually dispersing Crane's fear toxin. Their claims earlier on that Gotham was beyond saving could have been interpreted as a [[Secret Test of Character]], and even if not, there was nothing in the movie that could rule out them being convinced otherwise... and then when they explained their means of destroying it there was nothing to rule out that they could have been talked out of THAT. But once they actually went through with said means of destruction, they were definitely beyond redemption like they claimed Gotham to be.}}

** As for [[The Dark Knight]], good luck guessing which of [[Complete Monster|The Joker's]] [[Kick the Dog|numerous evil deeds]] was his [[Moral Event Horizon]], but the organized crime community as a whole arguably crossed this by {{spoiler|hiring the Joker in the first place}}, as was implied by one of Bruce Wayne's lines following {{spoiler|the deaths of Loeb and Surrillo}}, a line used in one of the earlier trailers...

** Let's not forget {{spoiler|Harvey Dent threatening to kill Gordon's family in front of him at the end of the film.}}

*** {{spoiler|Actually, it's implied that he was only threatening to kill Gordon's son, and he was going to use a coin flip to decide whether or not to actually do it. Still pretty heinous though.}}