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* Why have the giants in the first two books come across as so weak? They were supposed to be the greatest threat to Olympus. Yet they have all been dispatched fairly easily especially Polybotes and Alcyoneus who were made to counter two of the strongest gods. With Porphyrion at least there is an excuse of being still weak. The other giants are just big and hard to kill. They lack the other powers that make the gods and Titans so dangerous. At this rate all you need to do is arm the demigods with parts of Terminus' statues to win. Who needs the gods to defeat them when Percy can with ease defeat the one meant to counter his father?
** Much like Kronos, the giants aren't at full power yet, they've only just resurrected. If/when they reach full strength, they'd rip through a demigod like tissue paper.
* Ok, so in Roman Mythology, Saturn (aka Kronos) was actually a great guy. It's actually kind of funny. In The Last Olympian, when Hades fights him in front of Olympus, we hear Demeter say that Kronos has no appreciation of agriculture. Well, guess what! In ROMAN mythology Kronos (Saturn) is the God of the harvest and agriculture! More than that, in Roman mythos, when Saturn was defeated by Jupiter, apparently he was never imprisoned, and he fled to Rome and ushered in a golden age of Prosperity. So, 1, why do they (the Roman demigod faction) still honor the Olympians if Saturn is so good to them, and 2) why did they even try to (unknowingly) help in the war with Kronos by destroying Mt Othrys?
** First, the Olympians are their parents and all demigods seem to feel some degree of loyalty due to that. The Olympians were also the ones who helped make Rome into a great empire and sustained it. Third, the Olympians are the ones in power and can make your life very miserable if you do not do what they say. As for Saturn, he was thought of as radically different from Kronos, moreso than even Mars and Ares. Saturn was a benevolent god of agriculture while Kronos is an evil god of devouring time. Maybe Saturn is actually a different god if Kronos was imprisoned so long ago. The Greeks equated the Olympians with Egyptian gods, but the two are completely separate pantheons.
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** its possible that the Romans were actually fighting the Greek version but thought it was the Roman one, also even though Saturn was consider a good person, the Roman Demigods are willing to fight anything as long as the gods say so, and obviously have a more stronger loyalty to the gods than the greek(in Mars entry into the camp, the entire camp,except Percy, bow down, in Greek Camp the demigods talk back to gods(especially Dionysus) without a second thought).
* Riordan says that the gods and all thing mythography can be found at the centre of Western Civilization. So at the time of the American Civil War would the Gods not be in the UK, seeing as it was [[The Empire]] of the time? Or at least somewhere in Europe?
** The gods didn't necessarily have to be in America for there to be demigods there. Maybe they were based in Europe at the time but some of their children were living over there.
** Well I'd expect Camp Half Blood to be near Olympus, as it is now. I would make no sense for the Camp to be in America while the gods are in Europe
** Pretty sure Camp Half-Blood was only started up after WWII anyway, so as long as there were some Greek demigods in the country, their involvement in the Civil War could be as stated. The real question is what were the ''Romans'' doing in America then? They have much more structure, and would probably stick close to Olympus even more than the Greeks (being much better organized...)
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*** Or maybe the prophecy only applied to the Greek side of things.
**** When the group faced Enceladus, he mentioned how Jason defeated the Titan Krios, and toppled the Black Throne, so there was probably separate prophecies for both camps, so yeah, only Greek children applied for the Greek prophecy, and Romans for the Roman.
***** That doesn't make sense because the Seven Halfbloods prophecy applies to both of them. The line explicitly called it a "halfblood child of the ''eldest gods''". Maybe they just assumed it would only apply to their eldest form, the Greek version.
****** Probably because the Prophecy of the Seven is forcing them to work together, none of the other prophecies even Great Prophecies had to
**** It does. Remember how Neptune isn't important in Rome? And no one likes Pluto kids (Well, this is actually true at the Greek camp as well, but still)? The camp's most important people are Jupiter and Mars. There's not really a big three. And it also said that the prophecy of seven has been around for centuries, implying that it has been the Roman's "Great Prophecy." There are also a ton more minor Roman gods.
** Besides, he's not a son of Zeus, he's a son of Jupiter. The prophecy probably did only apply to the Greeks, because otherwise, how would they have got to Jason? At this point, nobody except Chiron and Lupa knew about the other camps, and they probably talked and realised that there were two different prophecies and thus no interaction was needed.
* Why didn't Grover use his empathy link to figure out where Percy is?
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*** I just saw it as Piper's Charmspeaking being so powerful that her voice was able to bring Jason back to life before he was too far gone, so whether it's a plot hole or not is up in the air.
*** I doubt casting [[Charm Person]] would bring someone ''back to life'', considering its only real power is in manipulating people to do things they already could. Even when she commands the [[Mooks]] to sleep, they were technically able to do so. But Jason clearly wasn't dying because he wasn't motivated enough.
*** Riordan [[Word of God|writes the rules]]. If charmspeak can prevent death, [[Magic A Is Magic A|then charmspeak can prevent death]]. Also, given the [[Power of Love|goddess it belongs to]], it's likely [[Back Fromfrom the Dead|that aspect]] of charmspeak only works on loved ones.
*** Earlier in the book, Jason saw Hera's true form in a dream. Maybe he could survive because he had already been exposed to it. Kind of like a vaccination.
*** Perhaps justified by ''The Son of Neptune.'' {{spoiler|[[Death Is Cheap]] now applies to everyone, because Thanatos, the god of Death, has been imprisoned. It's very possible for Jason to simply have come back to life if Thanatos had been imprisoned by then.}} Though it still doesn't explain why Jason wasn't burned to ashes...
** Because what if Artemis had killed someone else? Like Percy, or Thalia, or Zoe, or Annabeth? And it might not have been on her mind at that moment.
*** Perhaps Artemis was already severely weakened from holding up the sky, and Hera was just more or less caged?
* Jason is fluent in Latin rather than Greek. But from what we know, Latin was primarily a written language; the Romans spoke Greek. So it's still of course possible for someone to speak Latin, but speaking-wise, Greek should come more naturally to Jason as a spoken language than Latin.
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