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== The [[Neuromancer|Ono]][[Sprawl Trilogy|-Sendai]] [[William Gibson|Corporation]] is this universe's version of Microsoft ==
They started out as one of the world's first big software corporations before eventually making the brain-interface computers used by cyberspace cowboys to jack into the Matrix. They're also the manufacturers of a video-game console called the "[[X BoxXbox|X-Deck]]", which eventually evolves into the ever-popular Simstim deck.
 
== [[Back to The Future|Biff Tannen]] is this universe's equivalent to [[Donald Trump]]. ==
*The alternate timeline's version of Biff in [[Back to The Future Part II]] was based on Donald Trump. Given LoEG's tendency to blend fiction and reality, it would only make sense if this universe's version of Trump was the alternate timeline's version of Biff.
**Alternatively, [[A Fairly Odd Movie: Grow Up, Timmy Turner!|Hugh Magnate]] is this world's Trump-equivalent,and was mocked greatly while running for President, for believing that fairies exist.
**Or, Trump is still Trump, but he's a descendant of [[Baron Trump's Marvellous Underground Journey|Baron Trump]].
**Or his surname is [[Historical In-Joke|Drumpf]].
** Or [[Pixels|Will Cooper]] is the Trump-equivalent, and his approval rating soared when he helped defeat an alien invasion.
*While we're on the subject of U.S. Presidents, [[Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator|Lancelot R. Gilligrass]] is probably this universe's [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]] equivalent.
 
== If [[The Threepenny Opera|Mack The Knife]] is [[Jack the Ripper]], then [[The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui|Arturo Ui]] is [[Al Capone]] ==
* Ui was partially based on Hitler, and partially based on Al Capone. Since the role of Hitler in this universe is taken up by [[The Great Dictator|Adenoid Hynkel]], it is likely then that the role of Al Capone is taken up by Arturo Ui, who is a Hynkel-supporter.
* While we're on the subject of Brecht plays, maybe [[The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny|Mahagonny]] becomes the equivalent to [[Las Vegas]] after [[Doomed Protagonist|Jimmy]]'s death.
 
== At some point, the team travels to America and meets [[Dollars Trilogy|The Man With No Name]] ==
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== Mars, in this universe, eventually becomes known as [[Dune|Arrakis]] ==
I doubt this was intentional, but still...the outfit that Gullivar Jones wears in the second volume reminded me a lot of a Fremen stillsuit, complete with a gasmask and Arab-inspired robe/burnoose combo. Combined with the various Middle-Eastern motifs in the Mars scenes (hell, the book opens with Gullivar riding a flying carpet), it seems more than a little bit reminiscent of ''[[Dune]]''. Then again, if [[The Invisible Man]] and [[H. G. Wells]]' [[The War of the Worlds (novel)|martians]] both exist in the same universe around this time, it's a pretty safe bet that [[The Time Machine]] exists as well. It's entirely possible that one or more of the characters could have used it to visit the future that Frank Herbert described in the [[Dune]] books. And Gullivar and John Carter ''did'' mention the Molluscs performing genetic experiments during their time on Mars. Maybe the Sandworms are the descendants of one of these experiments.
* The existence of the [[The Time Machine]] was confirmed in the Story Allan and the Sundered Veil, in which he fights alongside Allan against {{spoiler|Lovecraft's Great Old Ones}}, so the theory definitely works.
== Jonathan Harker wasn't necessarily the bad guy in his marriage with Mina. ==
In the ''League'' universe, Jonathan Harker has apparently discarded Mina and divorced her because of his disgust with the severity of the injuries she received at the hands of Dracula and her now being "soiled" goods. But in the original novel ''[[Dracula]]'', Jonathan is a more loyal, caring and loving husband than this later coldness would have us believe. So why did Jonathan and Mina split up?
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It's worth noting that everything we hear (what little we hear) about the breakdown of Mina's marriage comes from Mina herself. Mina is not only bitter about her marriage, but is also noticeably neurotic and insecure about her injuries. She wears the long scarf twenty-four seven to obscure them; she is touchy about any mention of her history (both about her divorce and before); and, when she realizes that Allan has seen her scars after their night of passion, she automatically believes the worst about his reaction, so much so that she treats him coldly until he manages to convince her to let him hear him out.
 
It's possible that Harker wasn't disgusted by Mina's injuries at all -- orall—or, at least, wasn't as disturbed as Mina would have us believe. But Mina, already sensitive to the point of neurosis about her injuries, managed to convince herself that Jonathan felt that way about her. Then she treated him just like she did Allan; and, since Harker had hidden his own traumas at the hands of Dracula, he ''didn't'' force the issue. The resulting lack of communication eventually poisoned the marriage so badly that divorce was the unfortunate conclusion.
 
== The [[James Bond]] character in Black Dossier is not the same man who appears in the Bond novels and movies. ==
As in the original ''Casino Royale'' movie (and one of the theories on the [[James Bond (film)/WMG|James Bond]] WMG page), the name is passed on to whatever agent currently holds the 007 rank.
* He's certainly not Pierce Brosnan. But it's possible that he's Roger Moore.
* It could be the James from the novels. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen doesn't pay much attention to the continuity of the films, just classic literature.
** But they do use characters from movies -- formovies—for example, Hynkel from The Great Dictator.
*** Yes, but there does seem to be a distinct preference for the original versions of various characters, regardless of which medium they first appeared in. Hynkel first appeared in his movie, Bond did not.
* Seeing as it is set in 1958 and he's just returned from Jamaica, it would place him within the timeframe of the book, set in 1958. The film was set in 1962. This Bond also resembles the novel Bond.
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* All of this works except for ''Metropolis''. It's already canon that the titular ''Metropolis'' is actually Berlin in the early 20th century. The robot Maria was a member of the German league as early as the 1910s, as established in Black Dossier.
* If we're talking about dystopic and apocalyptic fiction, thought, [[Mad Max]] could easily fit.
** I'd like to imagine that the Mad Max dystopia is isolated in Australia. The reckless driving may also be what finally kills the last of the Liliputians
* All of this will probably be in the far future...and both [[Danger Days]] and the [[Adventure Time|Mushroom War]] probably has something to do with Orlando.
* ''[[THX 1138]]'' also takes place in the future. But it happens a century after ''Brave New World''. Apparently, some kind of nuclear war happened since then, which resulted humanity to live underground. After the end of the movie, THX chose to live above the surface and mingled with any surviving humans and became [[Our Founder|the founding father]] of the Eloi society.
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== Before the end of the 20th century, our heroes will live through some kind of nuclear exchange ==
A lot of fiction has been made based on the idea that there was some kind of atomic war in the three generations after [[World War Two]]. A ''lot''. If its coming, then we ought to see it sometime around [[The Eighties]], since atomic war fiction before then tends towards potenially kick-ass after-effects (example off the top of my head - Asimov's "I, Robot" collection), while fiction during and after then points up potentially horrific side-effects ([[Threads]], [[Mad Max]]), while also marking a rise in the number of [[Commando (film)|guntoting g]][[The Terminator|oons in pop fi]][[Rambo|ction]]. Maybe it ties into the [[Crisis on Infinite Earths]], maybe it doesn't. Whichever, our protagonists better [[wikipedia:Nuclear winter|dress up warm]], and start watching out for [[Youngblood: Judgment Day|cyborg-versus-atomic-zombie brutality]]...
 
* And Watchmen will be involved somehow.
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* More likely it would be [[The West Wing|Jed Bartlet, followed by Matthew Santos.]] Especially since The West Wing's rogue state of Qumar is going to play a major role in 2009.
** It should probably be added that at the time he was partially based on one senator Barack Obama, therefore lending himself as a perfect fictional stand-in.
*** The parallels to Obama are too perfect not to use. The final election as depicted on The West Wing between Arnold Vinick and Matthew Santos had eerie similarities to the real election between Obama and [[Mc Cain]]McCain, [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/arts/television/30wing.html something which didn't go unnoticed by the American media.]
* Also [[The Thick of It|Tom Davis]] is almost certainly the British Prime Minister.
** All but confirmed - in interviews Moore mentioned writing dialogue for Malcolm Tucker at one point.
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== Brian is [[Jesus Christ]] ==
From ''[[Life of Brian]]'', Brian is set like a messiah, just like Jesus. And, as we have seen through the comics that real life figures have been replaced by his fictional counterparts (The Beatles - The Rutles, Adolf Hitler - Adenoid Hynkel, Queen Elizabeth - Queen Gloriana, Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones - Turner Purple and The Purple Orchestra), it could make sense that Brian is the League's Christ figure (without replacing the names of "Jesus" or "Christ", as they were just translations of the real name of Jesus).
This is, of course, assuming that Jesus existed on real life, and I presume the League's universe would take Brian as a messiah (being humans too, they would, I presume). Don't start a flame religious war here, it's just a WMG that occured to me.
* This theory would only work if Brian was a Jesus stand in. But the film clearly states that Brian is not the messiah (he's a very naughty boy!) and he is not Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus himself appears twice in the film - once during the Nativity and once preaching his Sermon on the Mount. And in both instances Jesus was depicted in an orthodox Christian way. In the League universe, Jesus is likely still Jesus. Brian's cult probably sputtered and died soon after his crucifixion. Although a Gnostic-style cult centered around Brian might be interesting...
** A theory about Brian being the real messiah, and not Jesus, on the League's universe? That would be something.
** In this universe, it's probably more likely that [[Michael Moorcock|Karl Glogauer]] is Jesus.
* A statue in ''The Black Dossier'' seems to suggest that this world's equivalent of Christ is [[Ben-Hur]].
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I'd pay money to see this.
* Maybe it will be something of fiction? I think Moore would like to (maybe) depict the kids playing video games of varied forms.
* Oh, but could you imagine the red tape to get that through? I mean, O'Neill was able to get [[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney film)|Snow White]] into a couple of frames in the Blazing World but I'd imagine anything remotely later would be more like a [[Lawyer Unfriendly Cameo]]. But if they could, maybe in the way the above Troper suggested, or in the inevitable space travel adventure, the allusions to the interconnectedness of those worlds their implications within this realm of fiction would be [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|quite something]].
 
== The League will visit another planet. ==
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** A likely guess would be Mars, for a good poetic reason.
 
== [[YoutubeYouTube Poop]] will get involved at some point. ==
* [[Faces of Evil|you've]] got to be kidding
 
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* [[Street Fighter II|Sagat]], mauy thai expert and mercenary. He might have been persuaded to chip in in exchange for certain charges being forgotten.
* [[Sin City|Marv]], badass on par with Chuck Norris (though not nearly as powerful.)
* [[Friday the 13th|Jason Voorhees]]. The League aren't averse to taking in invisible rapists, rampaging monsters, or terrorists in submarines--theysubmarines—they probably wouldn't lose much sleep over hiring a serial killer. With the right amount of brainwashing and/or mystical control, he'd be a good guy to have on their leash.
* An aging [[Godzilla|Dr. Daisuke Serizawa]], who'd been presumed dead and in hiding since the 1950s, served as the team's science advisor, and used his experience with [[Kaiju|unusual creatures]] to help the team battle supernatural threats.
* [[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers|Jason Scott, Trini Kwan, and Zack Taylor]], a trio of [[Recruit Teenagers with Attitude|teenagers]] hailing from Angel Grove, California, joined after the League discovered them at a peace conference in Switzerland. They used their martial art skills and past experience with [[Kaiju|monsters]] and [[Humongous Mecha|robotics]] to help the League battle extraterrestrial threats.
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== Notes on companies, brands, and public figures ==
Moore has stated that [[Lost|Driveshaft]] and the actor [[Entourage|Vince Chase]] would be alluded to. What other brands, bands and actors would 2009 feature? Would teenagers pirate the latest [[Tropic Thunder|Kirk Lazarus]] movie on [[Portal (series)|Aperture]] brand laptops? At night would they choose between take out at [[The Simpsons (animation)|Krusty Burger]] or [[Dogma|Mooby's?]] Do fans gather in [[Snow Crash|The Metaverse]] to argue over the latest episode of [[Community|Inspector Spacetime?]]
* In this world, the fictional show ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' is probably their equivalent of ''[[Star Trek]]''. I would also image that ''[[Family Guy|Kiss Saves Santa]]'' is a popular holiday classic.
* [[Stargate SG-1|Wormhole X-Treme!]] is a classic sci-fi series in reruns that spawned two spin-offs, [[Stargate Atlantis|Wormhole:]] [[Cthulhu Mythos|R'lyeh]] and [[Stargate Universe|Wormhole: Total Perspective Vortex]].
* Superhero comics are probably not that big a deal anymore, but with the anniversary of a few significant deaths coming up, studios are working on some [[Green Lantern (film)|big]] [[Dark Knight Trilogy|budget]] [[The Man of Steel|biopic]] [[Marvel Cinematic Universe|films]].
** Though many young people still have nostalgic memories of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w&ob=av3e this particular cartoon series]
* Based on a series of documents leaked around a decade ago about a weird division of [[MI 6]] in the Victorian period, which quite caught the public imagination at the time, a few writers have tried [http://sanctuary.wikia.com/wiki/The_Five_%28group%29 their] [[wikipedia:The Establishment (comics)|own]] [https://web.archive.org/web/20141202083315/http://home.earthlink.net/~rkkman/frames/summaries/S13.htm take] on the idea. Of course, no-one really cares about those stories anymore.
 
== The regions in the [[Pokémon]] franchise are the geologically warped remains of Japan ==
Personally, I blame a technologically top-heavy [[Gulliver's Travels|Laputa]] around the latter half of the 20th century. Would you trust those [[TV Genius|TV Geniuses]]es with nuclear technology?
 
== The Moonchild will be an AI ==
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*** You convinced me. Better than I would have guessed.
 
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