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{{quote| '''Mufasa:''' Scar! Brother! Help me!<br />
[Scar grabs him with his claws, making him roar in pain]<br />
'''Scar:''' (with a slow and creepy tone in his voice) [[Pre
{{spoiler|He then [[Moral Event Horizon|threw Mufasa off a cliff]].}} }}
** And then he proceeds to [[Break the Cutie]] by [[Manipulative Bastard|tricking Simba into self-blame]].
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* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Scar. Especially with the Awesome Music that is "Be Prepared". Cue endless fanfics with him as the hero.
** Shenzi and her pack. It sure doesn't hurt to have Whoopi Goldberg's talents.
* [[Dude, Not Funny]]: An in-universe variation. Banzai is complaining about his injuries after the hyenas' scuffle with Mufasa, and Ed ticks Banzai off because he ''won't stop laughing''.
{{quote| '''Banzai:''' It's not funny, Ed.<br />
''(Ed tries briefly to stop before bursting out again)''<br />
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* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Timon and Pumbaa, who are the stars of the [[Animated Series]] and the [[Midquel]], and the hyena trio as well.
** Mufasa and Scar both qualify.
** [[Cool Old Guy|Ra]][[The Obi
* [[Fanon]]: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa.
* [[Furry Fandom]]: This movie is popular in it.
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'''Timon:''' Pumbaa, I don't wonder, I know.<br />
'''Pumbaa:''' Oh. What are they?<br />
'''Timon:''' They're [[The Princess and The Frog|fireflies. Fireflies that got stuck up in that]] [[Buffy
** Early in the film, Zazu joking says that Scar will "make a great throw rug". Three years later in ''[[Hercules (Disney)|Hercules]]'', Scar makes a cameo...''as a throw rug''.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: Do '''not''' mention ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]'' to any Lion King fans (And vice versa) due to the ongoing "debate" (IE:[[Flame War]]) as to whether or not Lion King ripped off Kimba.
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* [[So Cool Its Awesome]]: The film is widely considered to be not only one of Disney's best animated features, but one of the greatest animated films ever made.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: Mufasa's death.
* [[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]: There is much controversy (READ: [[Flame War]]) over whether this film is a ripoff of ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]'' or not.
** There are several differences, although there are many similarities. Here are the key differences in the narrative:
*** ''The Lion King'' lacks any human presence. In ''Kimba'', humans were often present [[Humans Are Bastards|as enemies]] like [[Jerkass|Hamegg]], or simply as [[Humans Are Flawed|unwittingly doing harm]].
*** In ''Kimba'', [[Big Bad|Claw]] is a rogue lion who wants to be king with two hyena minions, but is continually beaten down by Kimba after he attempts to take over the jungle when Hamegg kills Caesar. In ''The Lion King'', [[Captain Ersatz|Scar]] is Mufasa's treacherous brother with three named hyena minions and hundreds more nameless ones, so he hatches a plan to become king by organizing the death of Mufasa and Simba. [[Captain Obvious|He succeeds]] at killing Mufasa and scaring Simba away, and is a [[Magnificent Bastard|far]] more [[Complete Monster|effective]] villain than Claw was. In addition, the hyenas in The Lion King were originally planned as African Wild Dogs - they were presumably changed either because African wild dogs aren't as well known as [[The Hyena|hyenas]], or simply because hyenas [[What Measure Is a Non
*** In ''The Lion King'', the circle of life is used to get around [[Carnivore Confusion]]. In ''Kimba'', Kimba decrees that the animals should only eat insects and plants and live in peace with each other; however, this causes quite a few problems, and Kimba has to learn the hard way that [[Knight in Sour Armor|Caesar]] was right about the animals.
*** ''The Lion King'' is about Simba accepting his responsibility as king in the archetypal [[The
*** In ''Kimba'', both of Kimba's parents are dead and he more immediately becomes king. In ''The Lion King'', only his father is killed, and he blames himself for it, running away from his responsibility. His mother, Sarabi, lives to see his coronation.
*** Oh, and despite being [[Dueling Shows]], both are quite good on their own merits. It's best to think of the situation as being more like how ''[[The Magnificent Seven]]'' borrowed from ''[[The Seven Samurai]]'', even though ''The Magnificent Seven'' was more of a direct lift of ''The Seven Samurai'' than ''The Lion King'' was of ''Kimba''.
*** The most famous iteration of ''Kimba'' in the West, the anime made in the 1960s [[International Coproduction|with help from NBC]], also contains a lot more, ah... ''fantastical'' elements, such as [[Attack of the Fifty Foot Whatever|giant radioactive grasshoppers]] and unfrozen mammoths, and is far more comedic in tone than ''The Lion King'', while still being [[Darker and Edgier]] than its [[The Dark Age of Animation|Western contemporaries]]. The Lion King focuses more on heavier themes like guilt, the loss of a father/king, and accepting responsibility - it actually started a trend for Disney films to be [[Darker and Edgier]], in that its follow-ups, ''[[Pocahontas (Disney)|Pocahontas]]'', ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'', ''[[Mulan]]'' and ''[[Tarzan (Disney)|Tarzan]]'' often dealt with much heavier themes such as racism and war to [[Your Mileage May Vary|variable success]]. However, The Lion King is STILL [[Lighter and Softer]] than the Kimba manga and later remakes of the series, which often edged into [[Bittersweet Ending|Bittersweet]] or even [[Downer Ending|Downer Endings]].
*** For what it's worth, the film may have originally been planned as a ''Kimba'' remake - however, because the rights to Kimba are entangled with multiple companies, including [[NBC]] (as with many anime that have been dubbed - that's why ''[[Jump Ultimate Stars]]'' can't make it to US shores, due to the dubbing rights being split among Viz, [[
**** The smoking gun in favor of it being originally planned as a remake and having to be retooled? [[Osamu Tezuka]] himself [[Word of God|wanted to see]] Disney [[What Could Have Been|remake]] Kimba.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: "I Just Can't Wait to be King" is a song about [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|how much Simba wants to be king]]. How does one become king? By ascending the throne when the previous king dies. Simba is essentially singing about how he can't wait for his father to die so he can take his place. Which turns into [[Harsher in Hindsight]] when Mufasa ''does'' die.
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== Sequels ==
* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: Doubles as a [[Tear Jerker]], you can't help it when {{spoiler|[["Well Done, Son" Guy|Nuka]] goes after Simba on the dam, whilst proclaiming "I'll do it for YOU MOTHER! -- I'll do it for you.. And I'll do it for ''me''!", and he inadvertedly gets dislodged, [[Disney Villain Death|falls]] and manages to ask [[Big Bad|Zira]] "I'm sorry mother... I... ''tried''..." causing Zira to go from [[What Have I Done]] to [[Never My Fault]] under three seconds flat.}}
** Even more so in the deleted extended version where {{spoiler|Nuka actually asks with his last breath if Zira is finally proud of him.}}
** Depending on how you view Zira's [[Freudian Excuse]] and how you view her [[Alternative Character Interpretation]], she may also qualify.
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* [[Magnificent Bitch]]: Zira, in ''Simba's Pride''.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Zira probably crosses this when she threatens to kill her own daughter for refusing to take part in the attack on the pridelanders. Well, if she didn't cross it before then.
* [[
* [[Tear Jerker]]: Many fans got misty eyed when Nuka died and during "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp_mXkoRzU0 Not One of Us]".
** From the growing-up montage in ''1 1/2'', [[Fridge Brilliance|once you realize]] it must have been referring to the stampede sequence and Mufasa's death:
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