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*** As for Timon and Pumbaa, they're just outcasts simply because they were a klutzy screwup and a guy with farting problems. Timon and Pumbaa go by the philosophy of "If your life used to suck, just move on and be merry". They probably thought Simba went through the same sort of thing. They had no idea he was a young prince with responsibilities. Simba, being [[Heroic BSOD|mentally scarred by his father's death]] and having been [[Manipulative Bastard|manipulated by Scar]] took their philosophy, and abused it to the point of shirking his responsibilities. Plus, a little bit of what Timon and Pumbaa had to offer was probably good for Simba at the time, considering before they found him he was a little kid drowning in guilt to the point of nearly letting himself die.
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: Lion King in 3D!
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* [[Complete Monster]]: Scar is defined by his envy and hatred of his elder brother Mufasa. Hating that he isn't king, Scar hatches a scheme to remove Mufasa from the equation as well as Mufasa's young son Simba. When Scar's first attempt to murder Simba and his best friend Nala fails, Scar has his Hyena cohorts cause a stampede and personally throws Mufasa in to be trampled when he escapes it. He then convinces Simba the whole thing was his fault, convincing him to go into self imposed exile before ordering the hyenas to murder Simba anyways. Scar's incompetence as king leads to a famine, and when Simba returns, he sees Scar refuse to allow anyone to leave to go anywhere else, declaring "so be it" when Mufasa's widow Sarabi says he's condemning everyone to death. He proceeds to backhand her when she compares him unfavorably to Mufasa, and when he confronts Simba, Scar tries to break him by bringing up Mufasa's death. He only pauses in his attempt at a public execution to mock Simba with the knowledge that ''he'' was Mufasa's true murderer.
** To make things worse, Scar wanted the Hyenas to kill Simba after he'd just manipulated him into self-guilt. Just so that the guilt would be one of the last things Simba was feeling before he died. Tricking him into thinking it was his fault that his father died was all for his own pleasure, as were all the sick double-meaning phrases like 'Simba it's to die for'. He could have lied flat out and told him it was the best thing ever, but he came out with a sick 'not quite a lie' to make himself feel smarter than a cub barely a year old.
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'''Pumbaa:''' Oh. What are they?
'''Timon:''' They're [[The Princess and the Frog|fireflies. Fireflies that got stuck up in that]] [[Buffy-Speak|big bluish black thing]]. This was probably intentional considering the number of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] in [[The Princess and the Frog|that film]]. }}
** Early in the film, Zazu joking says that Scar will "make a great throw rug". Three years later in ''[[Hercules (1997 film)
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: Do '''not''' mention ''[[Kimba the White Lion]]'' to any Lion King fans (And vice versa) due to the ongoing "debate" (IE:[[Flame War]]) as to whether or not Lion King ripped off Kimba.
** It's not a good idea to mention you don't like Scar.
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*** In ''Kimba'', both of Kimba's parents are dead and he more immediately becomes king. In ''The Lion King'', only his father is killed, and he blames himself for it, running away from his responsibility. His mother, Sarabi, lives to see his coronation.
*** Oh, and despite being [[Dueling Shows]], both are quite good on their own merits. It's best to think of the situation as being more like how ''[[The Magnificent Seven]]'' borrowed from ''[[The Seven Samurai]]'', even though ''The Magnificent Seven'' was more of a direct lift of ''The Seven Samurai'' than ''The Lion King'' was of ''Kimba''.
*** The most famous iteration of ''Kimba'' in the West, the anime made in the 1960s [[International Coproduction|with help from NBC]], also contains a lot more, ah... ''fantastical'' elements, such as [[Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever|giant radioactive grasshoppers]] and unfrozen mammoths, and is far more comedic in tone than ''The Lion King'', while still being [[Darker and Edgier]] than its [[The Dark Age of Animation|Western contemporaries]]. The Lion King focuses more on heavier themes like guilt, the loss of a father/king, and accepting responsibility - it actually started a trend for Disney films to be [[Darker and Edgier]], in that its follow-ups, ''[[Pocahontas]]'', ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney film)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'', ''[[Mulan]]'' and ''[[Tarzan (Disney film)|Tarzan]]'' often dealt with much heavier themes such as racism and war to [[Your Mileage May Vary|variable success]]. However, The Lion King is STILL [[Lighter and Softer]] than the Kimba manga and later remakes of the series, which often edged into [[Bittersweet Ending|Bittersweet]] or even [[Downer Ending
*** For what it's worth, the film may have originally been planned as a ''Kimba'' remake - however, because the rights to Kimba are entangled with multiple companies, including [[NBC]] (as with many anime that have been dubbed - that's why ''[[Jump Ultimate Stars]]'' can't make it to US shores, due to the dubbing rights being split among Viz, [[FUNimation]] and 4Kids, among others), it simply wasn't possible to get the rights. Regardless, production was far enough along that it was likely too late to change things aside from the names and Simba's fur color - in addition, the film's development had a lot of cut characters who didn't correspond to Kimba's cast. As a matter of fact, there are still two characters in The Lion King who bare no resemblance to anyone in Kimba - [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Timon and Pumbaa]].
**** The smoking gun in favor of it being originally planned as a remake and having to be retooled? [[Osamu Tezuka]] himself [[Word of God|wanted to see]] Disney [[What Could Have Been|remake]] Kimba.
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** Disney briefly flirted with the idea of Re-Releasing ''Beauty and the Beast'' in 2010 as a 3D movie, but scrapped it. 2011, ''Lion King'' ended up getting the re-release to theaters and made well over $150 million. Disney is now planning to do the same type of re-releases with [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Finding Nemo, and Monster's Inc]].
* [[The Woobie]]: Simba, but he learns to put the past behind him and becomes an [[Iron Woobie]].
** [[Jerkass Woobie]]: The hyenas are, perhaps, Woobie villains, as they're quite put-upon throughout the film and are more or less [[Punch Clock Villain
* [[Woolseyism]]: In the Spanish release of the film. In the scene where Banzai is kicked in the ribcage by Shenzie before he prounces the name of Mufasa again. In the original English dub he says "¿Qué pasa?", a Spanish line that means "What's up?". In the Spanish dub the line was dubbed as "¿Cón mostaza?" which means "With mustard?". This was likely done because of phonetic similarities.
** Likewise in the German dub he says "Mit Wasser?"<ref>
== Sequels ==
* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: Doubles as a [[Tear Jerker]], you can't help it when {{spoiler|[["Well Done, Son" Guy|Nuka]] goes after Simba on the dam, whilst proclaiming "I'll do it for YOU MOTHER! -- I'll do it for you.. And I'll do it for ''me''!", and he inadvertedly gets dislodged, [[Disney Villain Death|falls]] and manages to ask [[Big Bad|Zira]] "I'm sorry mother... I... ''tried''..." causing Zira to go from [[What Have I Done]] to [[Never My Fault]] under three seconds flat.}}
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