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* Subverted in manga series ''Et Cetra'', where all but one of the poker games involve cheating through their teeth. To be fair, Baskerville only cheated to beat a cheater. Using the same device as Bandit above, though with far more speed and success.
* ''[[Saki (manga)|Saki]]'' does this with [[Mahjong]], fairly explicitly. Somewhat grating, as the actual probabilities are mentioned early on.
** Other than the main character, several other 'top players' display similar abilities. It's almost made explicit that these 'super-players' basically act as low-level [[Reality Warper|Reality Warpers]]s, manipulating probability to ensure the desired result.
* ''[[Yami no Matsuei]]'' at first subverts this with a hand in which the main character's body is his stake - which the main character loses. Then plays it straight when the main character's partner shows up just in time to win him back in the next hand. With a Royal Flush.
* In ''[[Vandread]]'', the cool and collected Gasgone is seen constantly beating the hotheaded Hibiki at poker. Sadly, though she seems to do this through sheer luck, as the two of them get dealt more and more unlikely hands culminating in {{spoiler|four aces and a ''joker''! Meaning either 5 of a kind or somebody screwed up the shuffle.}}
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* The proximity corollary of this Law is [[Averted Trope|averted]] in the ''[[Hellboy]]'' story "The Vampire of Prague". The story itself is mostly a brawl between the titular vampire and Hellboy, but HB can't win the fight unless he can [[Weaksauce Weakness|beat the vampire at poker]]. During the battle, Hellboy inadvertently comes across a handful of cards, while the vampire drops a hand of cards during the scuffle. Upon [[The Reveal]], the vampire has a middle-of-the-road straight (which nearly was a straight flush), while Hellboy has a moderate full house. The two hands are pretty distinct, and either could have been beaten by rarer, more valuable hands.
* Subverted in Jack of Fables. Jack has been consistently losing but manages to win the final hand of a high stakes poker game because of his power to summon all four jacks in a deck of cards at will.
* A friendly low-stakes Super Hero charity poker game once got derailed by the Kingpin in [[Spider-Man]]. Of course the game came down to Spidey vs. Kingpin. I beat Kingpin's hand with four of a kind--hekind—he even pulled "two threes and another two threes" which, humorously enough, tricked Kingpin into a villain monologue.
 
== [[Film]] ==
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* In ''[[Rounders]]'', Teddy KGB, the villain, is supposedly a great poker player. He very conspicuously eats Oreo cookies while playing, and he has a very obvious tell when he had a good hand by eating them in a peculiar way. Matt Damon's character is apparently the first person to ever notice it. In the end, Damon also defeats him in the end by laying an extremely simple trap in which he remarks, suspiciously casually given the fact that the stakes of this particular game are implied to be his life, that he is "gambling" by calling KGB's bet, implying that he is hoping to draw a flush (when in fact he has already made his hand, a straight). While this sort of table chatter might be effective in a casual home game, any poker book will tell you that representing weakness when you are strong and representing strength when you are weak is the oldest trick in the book. No poker player of KGB's [[Informed Attribute|supposed]] caliber would be taken in by such a simple ploy, nor would any player of Damon's caliber attempt it on one of KGB's.
** It works in this case because Matt Damon's character went up against KGB before and lost rather spectacularly, so Damon's character plays on the fact that KGB thinks he knows what's going on. He's thought by KGB to be a weak player in over his head, and he shows ''exactly'' what KGB is expecting while playing an entirely different game.
* ''[[Maverick (film)|Maverick]]'' plays with the trope throughout the film, as Bret Maverick is convinced that he can draw any card out of the deck at will. However, most of his attempts are completely unsuccessful {{spoiler|until the end of the film, when he manages to draw the Ace of Spades he needs to complete his Royal Flush and win the poker tournament}}. The final poker battle on the gambling ship at the end of the film is made of this trope. First, Maverick beats Annabelle by showing his cards, after she thought she won and already started collecting the winnings. Next, the final showdown between Maverick, Angel, and the Commodore. The Commodore shows his hand first: "Two small pair. Eights... and eights." Then Angel shows his hand, "See if you can beat my straight flush!" Maverick finally reveals his royal flush and wins it all, without saying a word. <ref>It should also be noted that Maverick noticed the dealer dealing from the bottom of a stacked deck.</ref> Also, a large part of the movie is of Annabelle trying to get Maverick to tell her his tells, and she ends up losing on the poker ship from the one tell he didn't let her know about.
* In the first ''[[Austin Powers]]'', Number Two hits on a 17 while playing blackjack in a Las Vegas casino, despite being advised to stand. Sure enough, his next card is a 4, making 21. Of course, he had [[X-Ray Vision]] from his [[Eyepatch of Power]], and could at least see the card. Austin then subverts the trope by trying to upstage Number Two's risky playstyle. He holds on 5, and loses.
* In the 1998 version of ''[[The Parent Trap]]'', there is exactly one poker game. It is resolved with a royal flush over a "lesser" straight flush. The winner even says "Sorry, you're just not good enough."
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* In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld/Witches Abroad|Witches Abroad]]'', Granny Weatherwax bests a card shark in Cripple Mr. Onion (a poker-like game played with the Discworld equivalent of a Tarot deck) through a combination of skill, psychological warfare, disabling the other players' cheating aids and explicitly manipulating the above poker tropes (since the Discworld runs on Narrativum, holding the best possible hand of a game against a protagonist when there's a single exception to the rule is an automatic loss). However, in ''[[Discworld/Maskerade|Maskerade]]'', Granny Weatherwax's poker game against Death to save a child's life is a subversion. Granny has four queens, while Death has four aces. Death chooses to dismiss his hand as "just four ones". The cards came out like that because Granny cheated. She'd have had the four aces in her hand if Death hadn't had them switch. The trick here, is ''both of them'' wanted Granny to win (Death's got a soft spot for humanity); they just went through the pantomime because those were the rules.
** She also mentions learning the game from another old witch with a '[[Non-Linear Character|detached retina in her Second Sight]]'. She learned fast.
* Somewhat [[Justified Trope|justified]] in Robert Asprin's ''[[Myth Adventures|Little Myth Marker]]'', where hero Skeeve finds himself in a flashy high stakes poker challenge; he puts the entire stakes on the first hand without even looking at his cards. The twist being, as he explains to his opponent, he does so because he knows he ''doesn't'' have any outstanding skill at the game -- butgame—but essentially reducing the game to a coin flip makes the skill gap irrelevant. {{spoiler|But of course, he wins with a big flashy hand anyhow.}}
** Then again, it's Dragon Poker, which Asprin probably got the idea for from watching the ''[[Star Trek]]'' episode "A Piece of the Action" (anyone familiar with both series will think "Fizzbin" while reading the book, and "Dragon Poker" while watching the Trek episode). Depending on the day, the hands that have already happened, where you're sitting compared to the other players, where you're sitting based on the compass, and any number of other factors, an otherwise unremarkable hand can wipe out a royal flush no problem. What got Skeeve into trouble was the fact that he had a fairly reasonable success rate playing as best he could and letting ''everyone else'' work out whether he'd won or lost the hand.
*** What he didn't realize until later was {{spoiler|the dealer was cheating on Skeeve's behalf for that initial success, as part of a [[Batman Gambit|larger scheme]] to infiltrate a literal Character Assassin into Skeeve's home.}} Though this didn't affect the game described above.
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* In the ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'' novel "The Big Game", a poker tournament which lasts most of the book is decided on the final hand, in which Odo gets a ''royal flush''. The chances of this happening, needless to say, are astronomically small.
* The ''[[Alex Rider]]'' novel ''Crocodile Tears'' [[Lampshade Hanging|hangs a lampshade]] on this by stating the very long odds on the four of a kind that {{spoiler|[[Big Bad]]}} Desmond McCain has just produced. And then Alex produces a straight flush to beat it.
* In Joe Queenan's ''America'', Queenan describes an occasion when he went to Atlantic City and sat in on a table with experienced poker players. Not really knowing anything about the game, he just bet when he felt lucky, and started winning -- andwinning—and got a lot of derision from the experienced players for screwing up the 'system'. After one of them took him aside and explained it to him, he started betting by the system -- andsystem—and promptly lost all his winnings and more besides. Not entirely surprisingly, he concluded that the system blows.
** ''[[Truth in Television]]'' at work here, combined with one of Murphy's Rules of Warfare: professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs. Just watch the WSOP when there's a large number of amateurs playing. They don't know when or how to bet, so the unspoken rules of the game are completely out of the window, which in turn throws off the professionals. But, being professionals, the old-timers simply wait out and figure out how each amateur plays. Or pulls them aside to throw them off their game.
** all you need to do to see why this is reality is ask yourself when the last time a professional has won the WSOP. Without checking myself, I am pretty sure it was pre-Chris Moneymaker since his victory encouraged thousands of amateurs to play to the point where the law of averages saysthat an amateur IS more likely to win now. (Pros may not get as many victories now, but because of the increased field, the prize money is increased to the point where coming in 4th pays more than coming in first used to. This is similar to pro-golfers taking a back seat to Tiger Woods in the '00s. Coming in 2nd was much more lucrative than winning was in the mid 90s.)
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* ''[[I Love Lucy]]'', when Lucy forces herself into a poker game of Ricky's, since she has just learned to play that very morning. She has no trouble convincing the regulars that she has a very good hand, and she wins when she doesn't even have a single pair.
* ''[[Lottery]]'' - The representatives of the Intersweep Lottery deliver the prize money of a winner, but not before he put the ticket into the pot of a poker game. Now, with the true value of the ticket revealed, the other players refuse to allow it to be removed from contention. On the advice of the reps, the players agree to let the next winning poker hand settle the issue. As pure luck would have it, the purchaser of the lottery ticket pulls a miraculous royal flush to win the game.
* A rare subversion comes in the 1980s ''[[Degrassi High]].'' The cool kids invite nerdy, insecure Arthur to their poker party so they can take him for all he's worth. He's totally out of his depth -- atdepth—at one point, he asks, "does three of a kind beat a full house?" But he suddenly starts winning -- includingwinning—including, of course, beating three of a kind with a full house. By the last hand, it's down to Arthur and the host -- andhost—and Arthur wins almost all the money by bluffing when his hand is complete junk. The cool kids are amazed. Then comes the subversion: Arthur grins and says, "'Does three of a kind beat a full house?' You guys are so gullible."
* Subverted in an episode of ''[[Angel]]'', where Angel bets his soul to a demon on a single high card draw. His opponent gets a nine, and Angel... draws a three. He then switches to Plan B and chops the demon's head off before the bet can be claimed.
* In ''[[Only Fools and Horses]]'' episode "A Losing Streak", a poker game between most of the recurring characters eventually comes down to Del and Boycie. Del insists Boycie is bluffing, and when Boycie raises the stakes beyond the agreed limit persuades all the others to throw in everything they've got. It transpires Boycie ''isn't'' bluffing, and Del only has two pair. He then waits for Boycie to start raking in the winnings before inevitably adding "A pair of aces, and... another pair of aces". The subversion comes when Boycie demands to how Del got four aces, and Del replies "Same place you got them kings. I knew you was cheating, Boycie, because that wasn't the hand I dealt you."
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** A later episode has Frank's replacement, Charles Winchester, enjoying a similar lucky streak...until the others discover his tell: he whistles when he's bluffing.
* On ''[[The X-Files]]'' episode "The Goldberg Variation," the title character wins a mob game in this fashion. Which is actually justfified in-story, as he has ridiculous luck with the downside that something bad happens to someone nearby shortly afterward. He hoped to mitigate that problem by playing against mobsters, who probably deserved whatever they got.
* Subverted in ''[[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger]]'': Joe and Luka get caught by a [[Monster of the Week]], who stakes their freedom on a single hand of poker. Joe manages to pull out a Royal Straight Flush to everyone's amazement.<ref>Though it's a moot point, since the MotW goes back on his word anyway</ref>. At the end of the episode, it's revealed that during a moment of confusion where Joe called the MotW out on blatantly cheating, Luka took the opportunity to switch out the decks.
* Played with in [[The Mentalist]]; Jane, who can count cards better than Rain Man, arranges a poker game with the suspect in a Vegas case, provoking him into producing key evidence as a wager on the final hand. The suspect is holding four Kings; Jane beats it with a straight flush--becauseflush—because he cheated while the guy's back is turned to ensure they both had those exact hands.
* Played completely straight, oddly enough, in the poker episode of [[Hustle]] - when in the final hand, the last two players (Mickey, and Jake, his arch-rival of sorts) go all in, and Mickey's straight-to-the-king loses to Jake's straight-to-the-ace... you really expect some sort of subversion to happen, given that both are experts at cheating. But no - both hands were apparently entirely legitimate. (The swap happened to the ''prize money'', off-screen.)
** Hustle has also used the Roulette version of this trope on several occasions.
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* In ''[[Apollo Justice]]: [[Ace Attorney]]'', Phoenix is accused of murdering a man over a game of Poker, which ended when both players had Full Houses, but Phoenix had a Pair of aces with 3 sevens, while the other had a pair of kings and ''3 aces''.
** This is, however, [[Justified Trope|justified]] (the trope, not the killing): {{spoiler|it turns out that the dealer, Olga Orly, was cheating, and dealt out five aces intentionally - the actual cards in that hand were: Phoenix: Pair of aces with three sevens, Shadi: Three aces with a pair of kings. It's repeatedly pointed out that the chances of both players having full houses are incredibly low, and thus the cheating is the only way it could happen.}}
* Played Straight then Subverted in ''[[Batman: Arkham City]]''. Zzasz tells Batman about his [[Start of Darkness]], which involved being cleaned out by the Penguin at Poker. Zzasz had four 6s, the Pengiun beat it with a straight flush... to the 9.<ref> Which cannot happen together because it involves five 6s. One or both were cheating.</ref>.
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
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* Played strictly for laughs several times in [[Bugs Bunny/Characters|Bugs Bunny]] cartoons
** In "Barbary Coast Bunny". The villain gets a full house, to which a dejected Bugs (disguised as a gullible country bumpkin) moans, "Gee, all I got is two pair. A pair of ones, and another pair of ones." He, of course, is referring to a Quad of aces, the second highest value hand in the rules of poker. He also manages to win several other casino games, despite the fact they've all been rigged by the same villain.
** Later, in "Bonanza Bunny", he decides to play a round of blackjack with only one card. The villain has two tens<ref> Both of which are the 10 of spades, which may or may not prove he was cheating, depending on how many decks were being used. Most (modern) American casinos use about four or six</ref> in his hand, but loses anyway, as Bugs has drawn the [[Rule of Funny|21 of Hearts]].
** In "Mississippi Hare", riverboat gambler Colonel Shuffle holds five aces - and Bugs beats him with a hand of ''six'' aces.
* Humourously subverted in an episode of ''[[The Real Ghostbusters]]'': The Ghostbusters are pursuing the ghosts of four Old West desperados, and Peter gets snagged into a poker game with the four spirits. When it comes time to call, each of the ghosts produces two aces, two eights and a ten (the "dead man's hand"). Peter then produces four aces, whereupon the ghosts accuse him of cheating and draw their guns. Peter escapes and mutters how wise it was of him not to show them the fifth ace.
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== [[Real Life]] ==
* And, quite obviously, ''not'' truth in television. Well, the part about luck may or may not be--therebe—there have been some times where the final hand of the World Series of Poker has seen a player win with worse pocket cards (e.g. 1979, when 7-6 off-suit defeated pocket aces). Most notably, [[wikipedia:WSOP|2005]], when [[wikipedia:Joe Hachem|Joe Hachem]] won with 7-3 off-suit. (In fairness, he flopped a straight--anotherstraight—another subversion of this, as if this were television/movie poker, he wouldn't have hit that straight until the river, although his opponent would've still paired his ace on the turn. Come to think of it, that turn was most of what made it the final hand...
** On the other hand, the one in a million (well, one in a very large number combination) of four aces vs. a royal flush ''did'' happen at the WSOP in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeNyPxdxBo 2008]...but it was very early in the tournament, and neither player went on to win.
*** And it was hold'em, not draw poker. By definition, in draw poker, if someone has all the aces, nobody can get a royal flush.
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