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* In ''[[Gurren Lagann]]'' using this trope as a mantra is why {{spoiler|Simon is happy with the series ending despite the heart-rendingly painful price he had to pay to save the universe. It perfectly shows how strong and heroic Simon has become.}} It's also extremely Japanese.
* [[Fate/stay night|Shirou Emiya's]] father, [[Anti-Hero|Kiritsugu]], possessed this principle and we get to see it in action in the prequel, ''[[Fate/Zero]]''. The contradiction in this ideal is also exposed {{spoiler|by the corrupted Grail}} when he gets shown an illusion where he has to save either the many or the few until he has killed 498 people for his two most beloved people.
* Discussed in ''[[Weathering with You]]''. As the weather gets worse than ever, Keisuke wonders aloud if {{spoiler|letting Hina be sacrificed is a worthwhile price to pay in exchange for millions getting normal weather back.}} One sign of how bad things have gotten is that Natsumi, who normally calls him out on his foolishness, doesn't say anything this time.
 
 
== Comic Books ==
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* ''[[Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan]]'' is the [[Trope Namer]], specifically the scene where Spock explains his [[Heroic Sacrifice]].
** Ironically inverted in ''[[Star Trek: Insurrection|Insurrection]]'' where Picard argues against relocating 600 people from a planet so the Federation can analyse the planets immortality granting radiation to save billions of lives.
*** Just for the record, the people aren't even native to the planet. The relocation would have taken them to a massive holodeck where they would remain none the wiser until they started to age, and this research would improve the lives of billions (such as Geordi regaining his eyesight).
*** To be fair, Star Trek as a whole (and TNG in particular) have discovered the secrets of immortality on a half dozen occasions (usually involving the transporter) only for them [[Status Quo Is God|to be forgotten by the next episode and never mentioned again]] [[Idiot Ball|even when the current problem of the week could be solved by them.]] You'd think they'd keep records for something as important as nobody ever dying again.
*** The main driver behind the research was an attempt to concentrate the [[phlebotinum]] enough to save the lives of a small number {{Spoiler|of defectors from the 600}}, at the eventual expense of the rest of the population. Why the Federation didn't study the radiation ''in situ'', or at least open up a spa on the other side of the planet, wasn't really addressed.
* ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (film)|The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]''. As the damaged Nautilus is sinking to the bottom of the ocean, Captain Nemo must make a decision.
{{quote|'''Ishmael''': Aft bulkhead open. Pump valves jammed!
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== Live Action TV ==
* Another example from the [[Star Trek: The Original Series]] episode ''The City On The Edge of Forever''." In it, Kirk had to let Edith Keeler die to save his own timeline, because her peace efforts would have prevented the US from entering what would be World War II when they needed, and cause Hitler and Nazism to conquer the world by developing the atomic bomb first. To save all those of their future, Kirk must stop Dr. McCoy from saving Edith from getting killed in a car accident. Kirk can't speak when Bones exclaims: "Jim! I could have saved her...do you know what you just did." Spock can only reply: "He knows, Doctor. Soon you will too. For what once was...now IS again." In James Blish's transcript in "The Star Trek Reader" Spock also comes across as trying to help Kirk rectify this. "No, you acted. Because no woman was ever loved so much, Jim. Because no woman was ever offered the universe for love."
** A rather nasty version in "[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine|In The Pale Moonlight]]", when Sisko enlists Garak in coming up with a scheme to draw the Romulans into the Dominion War on the side of the Federation. Garak succeeds, but has to assassinate a Romulan official in the process, along with the criminal who forged the recording they are using to fool the Romulans into thinking the Dominion was planning to attack them. When Sisko confronts him over this, Garak points out that they might have just secured a Federation victory in the war -- "and all it cost was the life of one Romulan Senator, one criminal, and the [[My God, What Have I Done?|self-respect of one Starfleet officer]]. I don't know about you, [[Utopia Justifies the Means|but I'd call that a bargain.]]"
* Once on ''[[Angel]]'' when the gang was on Pylea and making battle plans to free the downtrodden humans.
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{{quote|'''Delenn''': We had to choose between the deaths of millions and the deaths of billions.}}
* Walter O Brian of '''Scorpion''' is in fact more of a Spock, then, well Spock. But he is always pulling this. Except he is personally investing spectacular risk to his life for potential return on other people's lives. A real person like that would attract lots of loyalty from his companions as indeed he does in the show, but any life insurance company would be crazy to make a contract with anyone on his team.
 
 
== Theatre ==