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* "It was only a shadow, with no detail, but it seemed to be a building. A tall building that came to a point on top. It was on a slight angle, as if it were listing to the side." I believe what Bobby saw was the Lifelight pyramid. Ok, an idea popped into my head while I've been reading the ideas and theories on the mysteries surround RR (more specifally at the end).All the really important stuff is in all caps ^^ I know it's difficult to grasp, but get this: All the Travelers at the end of RR were in Lifelight, only they were not in the virtual world they had been living in their entire lives. THE TRAVELERS WERE AT THE MIDWAY POINT BETWEEN LIFELIGHT AND THE REAL WORLD, THE WORLD THEY HAD NEVER SET FOOT INTO. This explains the haze, all the current Travelers being there, and Bobby's brief sighting of the Lifelight building. Much like Neo from The Matrix, they were about to be introduced to the fact that they were living a lie. That's right, they world as the Travelers knew it was just a dream, or fake reality. I believe the only one who knew this was Press. This was the same for everyone on every territory. There are 10 territories, but they are all just a dream created by Lifelight. There's a question everyone's been asking since The Merchant of Death came around: who chose the Travelers? We won't know until the last book comes out, but my theory is that the people (or the one person) who were RUNNING Lifelight chose them. While still unclear as to why they were chosen, the explanation as to why Travelers have special abilites is because the people running Lifelight took away some of the physical limitations that normal beings have (or believed they have), allowing them to, shall we say, crack the system. This is much like how Neo and his gang were able to alter gravity, do crazy kung-fu, etc. in The Matrix. GET THIS: TRAVELERS CAN'T "DIE" IN LIFELIGHT LIKE OTHER PEOPLE CAN. THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE SHOW DON'T ALLOW THIS. THEY INSTEAD DECIDE TO BRING THEM TO A MIDWAY POINT BETWEEN LIFELIGHT AND THE REAL WORLD, AT LEAST UNTIL THEY ARE READY TO SEE THE REAL WORLD FOR THE FIRST TIME. When Bobby finally "died,” it was time. Sorry about the caps, but I feel this is important. Another -very- important facter. Saint Dane. He calls the travelers illusions because that's how he explains their powers, and how they can "crack the system.” What Saint Dane doesn't know is that Travelers are getting ready to leave the system. Lifelight. I fear, but believe that Saint Dane knows that he is living in a dream, a reality that was fake. That's why he doesn't care about killing so many people. He knows Halla is just one big dreamworld, shared by billions of beings. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HALLA WAS JUST THE NAME OF THE COMPUTER PROGRAM RUNNING LIFELIGHT . While the normal people die, Travelers don't, really. He knows that. He know's he can break the rules, and others can't. GET THIS: THE PERSON SAINT DANE WANTS TO PROVE EVERYTHING TO THE LEADER AND CREATOR OF LIFELIGHT! I SUSPECT THAT THE MAN WHO CREATED LIFELIGHT (the REAL lifelight) IS NONE OTHER THAN PRESS HIMSELF! How do you think Press and Saint Dane alone know all the answers? My theory suggests that Press and Saint Dane were former partners in creating Lifelight together. I hope you guys aren't getting confused lol. The Lifelight on Veelox was an entire concept, an entire dream within dreams, in the REAL Lifelight. Where the REAL Lifelight is located, I have no clue. Anyway Saint Dane wanted to use Lifelight for his own selfish purposes. He locked himself in Lifelight after giving himself special ways to crack the system, such as transform, turn into a bird, etc. Not unlike having administrator privledges on a computer or large computer mainframe, Saint Dane marked himself a "Traveler" so he could access all 10 territories. TERRITORIES WERE NOTHING MORE THAN DIFFERENT AREAS ON LIFELIGHT, ALL DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS ON THE COMPUTER PROGRAM CALLED HALLA. Saint Dane wanted to travel to these places and screw things up, mix the territories. Press and Saint Dane originally intended for the territories to be seperate, different people living in different cultures. READ: SAINT DANE WANTED TO PROVE TO PRESS THAT HE SHOULD BE THE RULER OF LIFELIGHT, NOT JUST THE CO-CREATOR. HE WANTED TOTAL CONTROL OF LIFELIGHT, AND THAT MEANT HE WANTED CONTROL OF EVERY BEING'S LIFE. Press wouldn’t let this happen, so he and his trusted men who helped him built Lifelight (if he had other men) selected those who would HELP PRESS STOP SAINT DANE FROM DESTROYING THE "LIVES" AND "TERRITORIES" THAT MADE UP LIFELIGHT. The Travelers. That's where the whole "Traveler vs. Saint Dane" thing comes into play. Why did Press and Saint Dane build Lifelight? Who know's, maybe they were living in a dying world. The real world. Much like [[The Matrix]]. My apologies for making everyone read this entire thing, I put a lot of thought into it though. A lot. I know, it's pretty out there and hard to grasp this concept. It's my theory and I suspect it could be one of the endless possibilites that could explain the mystery of the Travelers and Saint Dane. As I type this, my mind races with possibilities of other explanations.~Xembur
* Maybe where the travelers ended up (at the end of Raven Rise) is a new territory. A territory that hasn't exactly established its place among the Territories? Possibly where Press and Saint Dane are from. The territory that is the nesting place of the current ruler of Halla? The structure that Bobby saw is probably where the ruler of Halla is and where they are all walking. I think when you die in the ten territories, you are brought there. But that doesn't explain how LIVING people like Siry and Loor came to be there... Bobby, however, could've died in that helicopter crash. Lots of mysteries inspired by these last few pages...~Baroque
* Throughout the series, Saint Dane has been hiding certain truths from Bobby, such as his home territory, where all the travelers are from and such. I have read on the Raven Rise forums that some believe the building in the end of RR to be the Washington Memorial and such or the Lifelight Pyramid. They say this because it lists and has a tip at the top(excuse me for my phrasing there, I hope you understand what I mean). These people also say that it has to be somewhere in the books because Bobby says that he recognized it. I believe that this place that Bobby is talking about is possibly another territory from where all the Travelers are from before being designated to the other ten territories. I think that the territories were all some defense for this place. SD(Saint Dane) needed to destroy the barriers between the territories to expose this place. This is where the Travelers will have their last stand. That brings me to my next point. SD says that he is trying to prove that people should be controlled. If he gains control of this Traveler place, he will gain control of Halla and all the inhabitants. The Travelers need to stop him before he can take over this territory. They cannot go back to other territories. They need to defeat Saint Dane with what they have in this place (I don't want to say Territory, because that would cause a whole commotion about their only being ten territories, although DJ did say that their could be 11 territories in ten books). I also think this is the only place where SD will be able to be killed. So he thinks he has won by getting to this territory, but he is vulnerable. X-[[Ry Guy]] The flumes broke and now all the territories are combined. There are different aspects from all territories in this place. The desert could be from Zadaa, and the building could Lifelight or the Barbican, or even the Washington Monument! What do you guys think? X-[[Ry Guy]] This is just an idea that hit me as soon as I woke up this morning. I tried to write down everything and explain every single complicated item, but I'm not sure I did a good job at it. This isn't so much a theory as it is an attempt to be a proof that the introduction of Forge to First Earth was meant to happen. First of all, there are a few things we have to consider as truths before we begin. Mark is the father of the DADO Without Forge technology, DADOS would NOT exist Secondly we have to create a small time line of the territories. Each territory exists in its on place and time. So it can be assumed that territories have a "main time" with a certain "radius of arrival" for travelers. This sounds sort of weird but let me break it down. the main time for a territory is when the turning point, or an equally important event (usually caused by Saint Dane) occurs. Since flumes deliver the travelers when they are needed, this creates a radius of arrival. This radius is usually a few days. (The only reason I mention this radius idea is because people usually have different ideas about when a territory is, so by placing a main time and radius time, it becomes easier to visualize territories confined to certain time periods.) Examples Hindenberg crashed 5/6/1937, Bobby arrived days before this Mark boarded the Queen Mary 11/7/1937, Bobby & Courtney arrived days before Bronx Massacre occurs sometime in Second Earth, Bobby & friends arrive days before this The Advent occured on Eelong, Bobby arrives months before? (I wasn't entirely sure about the time there) Reality Bug was to be released on a certain date, Bobby arrives the day before In [[Po R]]PoR, Saint Dane comments on how he has all the time in Halla. QUOTE By Earth years, Lifelight won't be invented for another five centuries after Third Earth. The dados on Quillan were built a century after that and brought to the ruins of Rubic City two hundred years later. Do you really think time is a problem for me? I have all the time in Halla! (p. 372 [[Po R]]PoR hardcover). With this information we can construct a time line. First Earth - 1937 Second Earth - 2011 Third Earth - 5011 Veelox - 5511 Quillan (Dado Introduction) - 5611 Ibara/Veelox (Dado Introduction) - 5811 If you have any questions about how I got the dates simply ask me, but all the information is in [[Po R]]PoR. The events on Quillan are what prove this idea to be true. For those who did not notice, when we encountered dados for the first time it was also when we saw the the origin of the Dados created. Forge. Now you have to have a bit of common sense and realize that there was definitely a reason DJ introduced Forge during the Quillan Games. In presenting Dados on Quillan, 3600 years in Second Earth's future (I say in Second Earth's future because Halla is every place and every time meshed together, so Halla is sort of a belief of parallel universes/worlds) [[Mac Hale]] was saying that Mark could not be stopped in [[Po R]]PoR. Forge technology was created, it was brought to First Earth, and the Dimond Alpha Digital Organization had to be created or else Quillan's events would not have happened. But furthermore, I think the main idea I want you to pull from this is that as soon as the Dados were introduced, everything that has happened to Mark was meant to be. As soon as we hit the hitch with the Traveler ring is where things start to go awry. I know some might bring up the argument that the Quillan dados are much different than the ones on Second & Third Earth. One reason I believe there is a difference in Earth & Quillan dados is that I do not think Saint Dane brought physical dados from the Earth territories. Instead, he probably introduced the forge technology, and the Quillan engineers/scientists used it to create new technology eventually leading up to dados. The reason there is a difference in look is because if you follow my belief, the Quillan dados were developed on Quillan so it makes sense that a different planet would have different artistic views. The last thing I'm going to answer is a paradox question. Who came up with the name Dado first, Mark or the Quillan scientists? This is hurting my brain so I'll answer it as simply as I can. Bobby found the robots on Quillan and they were called dados. He wrote about them in his journal. Mark read the journal and got the name Dado in his head. Mark then named the company that founded Forge and eventually the dados, the Dimond Alpha Digital Organization. In doing this everything comes in full circle. What I mean is that Mark had to call them Dado's first before the Quillans because Dados existed in the past before the future. ~Hardac
 
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* SD said, "If you didn't exist, I wouldn't exist. Everything I've done is because of you!" Well, what if Bobby and SD are the same person? That would also explain why he doesn't kill him. ~Pendragon_lover77
* SD and the 1st generation travelers were the protectors of halla and they kept it in balance . press was the leader and quickly saw that they were getting old. so he chose the new travelers . thats how SD knows so much about them. but SD had a differant view on how to keep halla safe. so he turned on the travelers. press had all the travelers "adopt" the new generation, so that they could keep SD under control after the old travelers "died.” ~katara
* We all know SD doesn't have a Traveler ring. And he can travel through the flumes. Maybe he's not from Halla? I know, that sounds kinda stupid, but in [[Po R]]PoR, SD said "Halla is only the beginning." SD might have been talking about something greater than Halla. That could mean SD is not from Halla--he's from somewhere else. There could be something greater than Halla, as Bobby said. In the last chapter of RR, Bobby is in a place that is seperate from the other territories. It is possible he is not in Halla ~scamander24
 
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