They Changed It, Now It Sucks/Anime and Manga: Difference between revisions

* As a general rule, any time the translated version of an Anime or Manga makes any deviation from the original dialogue, it is likely to draw this reaction from some portion of the fandom. While there are often [[Cut and Paste Translation|very legitimate reasons]] for fans to be less than pleased with a translation, many within the fandom will still be upset even when the changes are relatively minor or [[Woolseyism|more effective than a literal translation]].

* The [[DiC Entertainment|DiC]] dub of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' has a multitude of hatesites dedicated to it, by people who claimed to get up early to watch it when they were little, for any change made by the dubbers.

** Same deal with Brotherhood, due to slight changes. Also fans of both the manga and original anime often have this about the art style of the newer series.

* The English dub of ''[[Code Geass]]'' has fallen into this. Lelouch/Zero's voice, in particular, is a point of contention, due in large part to his English VA not sounding enough like his Japanese one.

** ''[[Turn a Gundam (Anime)|Turn a Gundam]]'' received a poor reception among the ''[[Gundam]]'' fandom, due to having little in common with the "classic" gundam style used by the rest of the franchise.

** Pretty much every important SEED character had at least 3 (Athrun and Lacus had at least 4-6 apiece) different romanizations of their names, some of these are still in use over the official English transliterations.

** ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Age]]'', in addition to the complaint about the inclusion of aliens, generated discontent for being more child-oriented than other ''[[Gundam]]'' series.

* The anime adaptation of the game ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]'' has received a lot of flak from fans of the game for some admittedly fair reasons (character exaggeration, key characters (Leon and Kreis) being omitted, mood whiplash, changes to key events (lupus and batomys anyone?), changes to some characters, an unwanted love triangle shoe horned in, and needless angst) and some not so reasonable (having the squads at 10 men each rather than 20, getting the armour wrong, not including certain recruitables in squad 7, putting some characters in the wrong 'classes' they were listed as in the game)

* ''Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0'', in contrast with its predecessor, [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|1.0]]. Specific examples include the change of Asuka's surname from Sohryu to Shikinami, alterations to Asuka's personality and role, alterations to make Rei more emotionally open [[Sugar and Ice Personality|than she was in the series]], the introduction of a new character (Mari), and the appearance of Kaworu [[Early-Bird Cameo|much earlier than he appeared in the original series]].

** Fans of both series dislike the ''slight'' change in art style from Higurashi to Umineko, saying it looks even worse than the [[Narm Charm]] ridden Higurashi.

* The first two seasons of ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' were dubbed into English by [[The Ocean Group]] while being licensed by [[FUNimation]]; however, the show suffered from poor time slot placement and didn't get a lot of mainstream exposure until it began airing on the [[Cartoon Network]], and then its popularity exploded. To meet the high demand for more episodes, FUNi made plans to dub the rest of the series, but realized it would be more economical to produce an in-house dub at their own facilities in Texas rather than outsource the work to Ocean in Canada. As a result, all the character voices in the third season sounded radically different from those in the previous two, creating a fiery backlash among viewers who had been fans of Ocean's work. To be fair, Funi's voice work at this time was admittedly pretty lousy, although they have since gotten better (see: ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]''); rumour has it that they were recruiting people off the street with no prior VA experience during auditions, and Frieza was voiced by a woman whose day job was working as a librarian. In Dragon Ball Z Kai Freeza's now going to be voiced by a man, eliminating much of the [[Narm]] of the original.

** I defy you to watch a scene comparison between Z and Kai on youtube and read the comments. You will constantly find people looking for one change in the scene and using that one change and call that justification to call the Kai version bad. It doesn't matter how good the Kai version is. If the scene doesn't last as long, it doesn't let you soak up the emotion. If the music is different, that's the reason why the Z version was better. It doesn't matter if the voice acting quality is better, the words are slightly different so it sucks.

** Also keep in mind this was hardly the only issue in play when [[FUNimation]] took it in-house. Saban Entertainment had creative control over the dub for its broadcast run, and directed [[FUNimation]] to [[Bowdlerize]] the show mercilessly. Hence the term "the next dimension". If Saban didn't let it go, [[FUNimation]] would've turned into 4Kids. And it took a while for them to re-learn to walk after that.

** Later when it was pointed out that all foreign adaptions feature these music changes, fans still blamed Viz for not trying hard enough to ge the original track.

*** In the case of ''[[Pokémon Special]]'', it helps that it's a ''black and white manga'' and that no one really paid much attention when only a ''very'' few got their eye color changed.

*** There is a small but vocal group that is up in arms about how Team Rocket is now boring because their personalities are now very serious and driven, rather than bumbling and humorous, and that they have stopped showing up in every episode and many times when they do, they don't actually play a part in Ash's current story.

* Surprisingly, not many complaints have been made about [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha]]'s barrier jacket having its red ribbon replaced with some brooch for [[The Movie]] adaptation of the 1st season.

* The ''[[Wandering Son]]'' anime gets a lot of this from fans of the manga. It's easier to state manga fans who like it then ones who don't; though people who read the manga after the anime typically have a better opinion of the adaptation then manga fans who watched the anime did. At first it just came from the art style. Compared to other adaptations, especially ''[[Aoi Hana]]'' which is from the same mangaka, the anime is a [http://animesalvation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Hourou-Musuko-Wandering-Son-Anime.jpg far] [[media:300px-Hr_Musuko_characters_2703.jpg|cry]] from the manga style; far more simplified and stiff. It was however praised for looking like a watercolor picture, and it's high quality animation. Character designs were also changed, specifically few people kept their eye colors from the manga (they always have [[Black Eyes]] and [[Brown Eyes]] while in the anime they had [[Eyes of Gold]], [[Purple Eyes]], and all other sorts of [[Technicolor Eyes]]). However once you get past that, you start getting into the episodes. The series suffers from being very different from the manga. Chronological order is changed, the series begins [[In Medias Res]] which doesn't work for manga driven by continuity and [[Kudzu Plot]], [[Out-of-Character Moment]] scenes are added, scenes are changed, and the ending of the anime is dramatically different from its equivalent of the manga. It drives more of a "You can't change your sex, and you'll just grow out of this", while in the manga is strict [[Transsexual]] based and Nitori's reaction at the end is in stark contrast to the anime. {{spoiler|In the anime he takes a girl's comment about his voice changing with stride and a true smile, while in the manga his reaction is dull and in shock; no smile either.}}