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* Okay, part of this is just that I want Ianto back, but they ''do'' keep bringing him up: "If this had happened earlier, Ianto would still be alive."--But no mention of Tosh and Owen? Jack tells his {{spoiler|dying crazy ex}} that he "would have liked Ianto." Well, why not mention any other relationships you've had since you last saw him? Like the time you got married? Basically, someone's making sure we don't forget Ianto.
** Also, Rex is the smartass [[Lancer]], Esther is the pretty [[smart Girl]] and... no one's bringing coffee. {{spoiler|Granted, Angelo, ''did'' have a lot in common with Ianto, but he isn't a team member.}}
*** Angelo really didn't have that much in common with Ianto, though.
** Jossed. The Miracle didn't have anything at all to do with Ianto.
== The Blessing IS Jack... sort of. ==
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** A morphic field using this "Blood Line" as the template would grant the entire planet some facet of Jack's immortality (but not his healing factor).
** Because Jack isn't the "Jackest" source on the planet anymore, technically ''he'' would be drawn to it, and likely would lose his immortality as a result. If you cut Jack in half, you wouldn't wind up with two Jacks. One side would grow, and the other would die. Likewise, Jack is now the "smaller part" that is not immortal, so long as this Blood Line is still intact.
*** Great theory. The Blessing isn't actually Jack. The Blessing is The Blessing. But now it holds a version of Jack stretched from one side of the earth to the other (and in otherwise poor shape), and because you can't have two Jacks (or it would be *really* messy if he got blown to pieces and multiplied) the other one looses his immortality.
*** I'll say it's a good theory, because on Headscratchers I was wondering what would happen if all the skin cells and intestinal lining, etc a person sheds every day were forever immortal, and would clog up the ecosystem if they didn't break down. So this might be all the immortal biomass Jack has discarded or been bled out over the centuries, some of which got into the food chain and got eaten by every human on Earth, some of which migrated collectively into The Blessing. Then, one day, the biomass descended from Jack becomes more powerful than Jack and he's the shed part. But IMHO, sadly, sounds far too sophisticated for the writing so far. They made no mention that cells shed from all these people would remain immortal, and you'd kinda want to establish that in a way that seemed an extraneous problem at the time.
* This gives us a rationale behind why Jack is not healing (because the Blood Line is) and why everyone's immortal (because the Blood Line is). The ''only'' piece still missing is the motive. Why would someone do this?
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* Jossed.
 
== The Three Families are related to [[Doctor Who/NS/Recap/S3 E8S29/E08 Human Nature|The Family.]] ==
Mostly due to using that name and being apparently after immortality.
* Jossed. They're seemingly human, and even if they weren't, they started on the other side of the world from where Son of Mine was left. (The others are in no position to make plans)
 
== The creepy Tarot girl is a member of the Families. ==
The Families know Jack, and he apparently did them a favor that he doesn't remember. We know he's had encounters with that Tarot-reading girl before (enough to be able to track her down and [[Torchwood (TV)/Recap/S2 E7/E07 Dead Man Walking|ask for her help]]), so it's possible he did her a favor at some point, thus inadvertently helping the Families. Also, the girl clearly isn't human, seeing as she hasn't aged a day in over a century -- the Families have control over life and death, who's to say they can't stop the aging process?
* Jossed. The Families started in 1928, while the Tarot girl first appeared some time after 1892 (when Jack discovered his immortality) and before the turn of the 20th century.
 
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Come on. "We are everywhere, we are no one"? It would provide an excellent tie-in with Doctor Who as well - something Torchwood hasn't done in a while.
* From the episode 9 trailer, a woman talking to Jilly after she has gone to see "the blessing". Now what does this sound like?
{{quote| ''"You're scared, your skin's a little too tight. There's something just out of the corner of your eye you can't quite see, hmm?"''}}
** Jossed. That's not how the Silence work. You forget about them completely. Also, it's a family of humans.
 
== ''Miracle Day'' will explain what happened to Jack's missing memories mentioned in "The Doctor Dances". ==
Episode 4 had the assassin referring to some forgotten involvement with the [[Monster of the Week|Monster of the Series]] of Jack's, so maybe this loose end will get tied up.
* Jossed. I'm sure Russell stated that only Steven Moffat (who is busy with ''Doctor Who'' and ''Sherlock'') would have to wrap this subplot up.
 
== Jack is still immortal ==
Just Miracle Day immortal instead think about it the keep in saying Jack is mortal but they can't really prove it for that they would have to kill him instead they've just shown he can't heal any more which is the same as what has happened to every one so instead of only him being turned mortal which means they would have had to target him it means whatever happened to everyone else is happening has happened to him as well.
* Jossed as of Episode 4. One of the mysterious assassins is convinced that Jack is mortal.
** That's just assuming that the assassin or the people who hired him are positive of Jack's mortality.
** They are. See episode 10.
* Jack's immortality relates to the fact that he is a fixed point in time. And something like that can't just be turned off. The Miracle takes away his healing factor, but because of the whole 'fixed point' thing, Jack still cannot be killed.
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* One of the missing Torchwoods. Think about it - they sent out the word "Torchwood" not to get rid of the existing members but because ''they are'' Torchwood.
** Jossed.
* The [[Doctor Who/NS/Recap/S2 E1S28/E01 New Earth|Sisters of Plenitude]]: An order of nuns from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' who used inexplicably living subjects to research treatments for deadly diseases.
** Unlikely. Even if they existed in the 21st century, the Sisters only did so once Earth descendants landed on New Earth. They did so out of necessity, not (only) for kicks.
** And Jossed.
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* The Cell from Torchwood season 2. Remember how they said Jack had been "factored into their plans"? Given the vague hints about playing the system in episode 6, an army that makes deep-cover agents as a standard procedure seem like the prime suspects for this. That or this is going to result in the creation of [[Faction Paradox|the enemy]].
** Jossed. The Families are human, and the Blessing itself lives underground.
* [[Star Trek: theThe Next Generation|Q]]. John de Lancie ''is'' going to guest star.
** Jossed. De Lancie plays a CIA head.
*** Though that doesn't mean he ''can't'' be Q at the same time. The CIA head has a very similar personality; maybe Q decided to visit an alternate reality and [[Body Snatcher|body snatch]] a similar person, both of which he did in [[Star Trek: Borg]].
*** {{spoiler|'''Q:''' [[Star Trek: Borg|Oh great, now I'M dead! Not exactly what I wanted.]]}}
* The Trickster's Brigade. At least, the brain-parasite is probably going to play some part in the proceedings.
** Jossed. The Trickster's Brigade parasite was met and destroyed a year before the Blessing was even planned.
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* Jossed.
 
== Lois Habiba will join the team in season 4. ==
She's a good possibility - Gwen said as much to her.
* See the response to Johnson. Also, Jossed.
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== In the new season, Torchwood 4 will be found and become the new base of operations. ==
 
Makes perfect sense to me; possibly starting with a (mostly) new cast after {{spoiler|nearly everyone else is dead or trekking across the universe.}}
* Seemingly Jossed. They don't have any permanent base of operations, moving across the two American coasts, into Britain and finally, Shanghai and Buenos Aires.
 
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== Jack can die.... but once the Miracle is over he'd come back to life. ==
* Because it never ends for Captain Jack Harkness....
** That's pretty much what happened in episode ten, for both Jack and Rex. (Twice for Rex. .)
 
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== The series will end with a [[Reset Button]]. ==
* [[Doctor Who/Recap/S32 E8/E08 Let's Kill Hitler|"Let's Kill Hitler"]] has gone past without so much as a mention of the miracle despite ostensibly being set at the same time; assuming the two shows are still in continuity and this isn't simply a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing, this seems to imply that the ending will prevent the miracle from ever happening.
** This would also explain why Jack, who is from the future, had no knowledge of the Miracle beforehand.
** Except for the fact that the Miracle was directly caused by him. Thanks to time travel, he ended up in a time that wasn't his own, and his existence in that timeline caused a major change in the flow of events. There's no way he could have possible know about the Miracle given that his time travel interference is what caused it.
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** Jossed. The Blessing is the negative space, not the stuff around it. Also, while Jilly's message isn't stated, Jack's, Gwen's and Oswald's are, and even Oswald's doesn't quite sound like "he's a cunt".
 
== After [[Twenty Four24|CTU]] was disbanded by the government, the CIA hired on its human resources division. ==
* Thus explaining how the Families got not one, but ''two'' moles into the same CIA office.
 
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