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** Roger, post-resurrection, with [[Word of God]] explaining that while he'd never been a nice guy, 8 months buried alive drove him "apocalyptically crazy."
*** Even before then, he was a selfish bastard who tried to murder his uncle, aunt and nephew for power and treated everyone as a disposable pawn. Pierce even stated that the reason he's so bad is due to his inability to confront the evil of his actions.
** Blayce the Gallan from ''Protector Of The Small'' is even worse, given that he's ''[[Powered Byby a Forsaken Child|using the souls of children to power his machines]]''. When he tries to defend himself by stating that he didn't choose to be a natural necromancer, Keladry calls him out on his bullshit, ''knowing'' that he enjoys the act. The men under him also probably qualify (although Stenman at least gets a unique perspective, telling Kel that the children will likely die anyway and at least Blayce treats them well before murdering them).
** {{spoiler|Vinson}} pretty much becomes this by ''Squire'', having secretly molested several women without remorse (this after attacking {{spoiler|Lalasa}} previously. If there's any doubt, consider how {{spoiler|the Chamber of the Ordeal torments him from that point on, driving him to a [[Villainous Breakdown]] and confession which leads to his immediate arrest.}}
** {{spoiler|Pearl Skinner}} from 'Bloodhound' certainly has this air.
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* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: {{spoiler|Duke Roger}}, full-stop. Delia of Eldorne tries to be this but usually fails thanks to her bitchiness and petulance.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: ''Mastiff.'' The whole Corus crew disappearing? {{spoiler|Tunstall going traitor? Beka not ending up with Rosto?}} It never happened!
* [[Fan -Preferred Couple]]: Averted with Alanna's childhood friend George Cooper, who Pierce decided was better for Alanna after she [[Ship Sinking|sunk the ship]] of Alanna/Jonathan in ''The Woman Who Rides Like A Man''.
** Played straight with {{spoiler|Beka and Rosto}}, as she ends up marrying {{spoiler|Farmer, who didn't appear in the first two books}}.
* [[Fridge Brilliance]]: Why didn't {{spoiler|Duke Roger's}} image magic work as well on Alanna as it did on everyone else (even before her Ordeal)? Because it was made in the image of Alan the boy, not the girl that Alanna actually was.
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* [[Mary Sue]]: Can be and has been argued for Alanna, Daine, and Aly, with their exceptional talents, strong magical capabilities, closeness with gods, and the many men who love them. However, proving that [[Tropes Are Not Bad]], it's mostly justified in the name of plot and character development and there are notable subversions, such as Alanna's moderate-not-stunning looks and infamous temper and Daine's absolute refusal to be a [[Purity Sue]]. And Kel averts it every which way.
* [[Squick]]: Aly and Nawat, for some people. Daine and Numair, for others. 14 year age gap and relative social status is often quoted as the reason.
* [[Strangled Byby the Red String]]: Beka and {{spoiler|Farmer}} are a Type 3, and possibly a Type 2 as well, depending on one's interpretation. About 400 pages of no romantic hints... and then suddenly she notices what broad shoulders he has. And then {{spoiler|they're declaring their love for each other and promising marriage while they're in a jail cell, after being tortured, and at a time when Beka ''still'' doesn't know for sure who the group traitor is}}.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]:
** The fact that Lalasa is a lesbian and was previously abused comes off as [[Rape and Switch]] to some fans.
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** ''Song of the Lioness'', I believe, in a conversation with Liam.
** From ''The Woman Who Rides Like a Man'':
{{quote| '''Bazhir:''' You ride as a man, fight as a man, think as a man,-<br />
'''Alanna:''' I think as a human being! Men don't think any differently from women, they just make more noise about being able to do so! }}
** In ''In the Hand of the Goddess'', when she's talking about her dislike of spiders.
{{quote| '''Alanna:''' What do they know about girls anyway?...Maids at the palace handle snakes and kill spiders without acting silly. Why do boys say someone acts like a girl as if it were an insult?}}
** Kel protests that she ''likes'' being a girl after her prejudiced but increasingly impressed training master Lord Wyldon fervently wishes that she could have been a boy instead.
*** Kel also makes it a point to wear dresses when she has casual-clothing time at the beginning of her page training, to remind the boys that she's a girl and she's not going to be ashamed of it.
** Lampshaded after Alanna and Jonathan return from the [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Black City]]:
{{quote| ''That was before she had shown the Ysandir that a girl was the worst enemy they could ever face.''}}
 
 
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==== '''Keladry of Mindelan''' ====
* [[Fan -Preferred Couple]] - With Neal
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]] - One fansite recently had a month-long competition between Kel pairings. Being the only girl in what is essentially an all boys school and one of few women in a male dominated profession will do that.