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** Oh that's not the best part, the best part is [[AJ Styles]] [[Calling the Old Man Out|calling Bischoff out]] for turning TNA into a WWE ripoff. Why is this the best part? This is ''exactly'' what the fans had been complaining about!
** After the catastrophic mess that was the Main Event of ''Victory Road 2011'', TNA offered six months of free access to their online on-demand service if you show proof of purchase.
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** Introducing two characters based on ''[[Jersey Shore]]'' was strike one; having one of their one of their stars make a one night cameo for $15,000 and humiliating a legitimate wrestler in the longest segment of the night was strike two; hiring another one of them and potentially bringing the first one back is/will be strike three.
*** Doing away with one of the characters was a step in the right direction, but then TNA brought in a ''third'' ''[[Jersey Shore]]'' cast member.
* [[
* [[Dude, Not Funny]]: Eric Young and Orlando Jordan's current gimmicks, to many.
** The ENTIRE angle involving [[Kurt Angle]], Jeff and Karen Jarrett, and their kids. The pinnacle of this is probably having the custody of their children being part of a stipulation for one of their PPV matches.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: [[AJ Styles]]. He's arguably the most well known and popular of the "TNA Originals."
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** There's also the common defense of TNA: "it's not WWE."
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: What makes the story arc of Miss Tessmacher learning to wrestle really sad is that "Miss Tessmacher" was formerly Brooke Adams in [[Kelly Kelly]]'s "Extreme Exposé" dance squad with Kelly and Layla El in WWE. In a 2007 interview, she mentioned that if she ever improved as a wrestler she would love to leave Extreme Exposé and strike out on her own. Flash-forward a split and about three years later, by the time Brooke started in TNA as a receptionist, Kelly and Layla had long beaten her to the path of becoming wrestlers.
** [[Booker T]] and [[Scott Steiner]]'s first tag team experience together was far more unusual than winning the TNA tag titles while part of the [[
* [[Ho Yay]]: The relationship between [[AJ Styles]] and [[Christopher Daniels]] was chock full of [[Ho Yay]], even when they were enemies. When they were arguing over the possibility that Daniels could beat Styles, it seemed like a lover's spat that lasted for weeks. Samoa Joe acting like a jealous third party didn't help any. Keep in mind that [[Christopher Daniels]] and [[AJ Styles]] have named their kids after each other, so this is hardly a relationship that ends when the match does.
** This recently happened again with AJ and Daniels, over the same thing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgQPgoGLSB4 On the 8/25/11 Impact broadcast], Daniels nearly broke down into tears while explaining why he asked AJ for another rematch (closely resembling an [[Anguished Declaration of Love]]) and outright hugged AJ when the rematch was accepted.
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** The Velvet Sky/Angelina Love/Winter triangle. Complete with [[Murdering the Hypotenuse|attempted murder of the hypotenuse]] and [[Fan Service|a candlelit massage]].
** The entire Knockouts roster can be counted as this, given how much they waffle between catfight and orgy on a regular basis. Someone must be enjoying packing as much innuendo in as possible.
* [[I Knew It!]]
** More than a few fans believed that the "They" Abyss was talking about was Hogan and Bischoff, and the Impact before ''Bound For Glory'', even more suggested it was them. Come ''Bound For Glory''... Let's just say Sting was right...
** When Jackson James first appeared and made questionable decisions that were written off as rookie mistakes, at least one person believed that he was in Immortal's back pocket <ref>Due to [[Smart Mark|some people]] recognizing him as Eric Bischoff's son.</ref>. Come ''Bound For Glory'' a year later and it was revealed to be the case.
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** Most people consider the breaking point the amount of time spent on storylines (i.e. talking) versus the amount of time spent on wrestling. YMMV all around.
*** One thing about TNA that must aggravate some WWE fans is that they apparently have to assign all of their talent to some ridiculously large faction (Main Event Mafia, Fortune, etc.) in a failed attempt to recreate the magic of 1990s WWE with [[The Corporation]], Nation of Domination, etc. Rather than make the storylines more interesting, this tactic only cheapens them because it locks the characters into stereotyped roles to the point where their only motivation for attacking each other is "one's in Fortune and the other's not," etc.
* [[
** If it had anything to do with Abyss before his [[Badass Decay]] set in, it was Dutch Mantell booking it. The first time the "Fire Russo!" chant was invoked (Turning Point 2006, during the [[
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8BEqC_EPs Dutch defends himself].
** According to Internet reports, [[Hulk Hogan]] and Eric Bischoff have been rewriting the shows. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to the quality of the finished product.
*** Despite getting a lot of flack for things he wasn't involved with, Russo is still a horrible writer. When the infamous "DQ in a Cage match" happened Russo defended it saying that there was no reason why [[D Qs]] shouldn't happen in a Cage match.
** The infamous [[Jeff Hardy]] vs. Sting Match at ''Victory Road 11'' brought a lot of hate TNA's way, despite the fact, that in the end, [[Jeff Hardy]] was the one who showed up completely stoned out of his gourd, and TNA had to choose whether to send him out for a quick squash or cancel their headlining match. We can argue about whether the company making a known substance abuser champion was [[Tempting Fate]] to begin with, but in the end, Jeff screwed Jeff.
* [[Nightmare Retardant]]: Abyss. He looks like Scarecrow from ''[[The Wizard of Oz (
* [[No Such Thing
* [[Protection From Editors]]: [[Vince Russo]] is to pro wrestling booking what a shotgun is to target practice: just firing a gajillion ideas out and hoping something hits. In WWE, and his early run with WCW, he worked WITH a team of other writers with careful oversight, so the target was essentially a chain-link fence: 1 in 100 ideas "hit", while the rest of the garbage went flying by. Now there's only one other writer besides Russo, Matt Conway, and, well... The chain link fence is more like the broad side of a barn. And whatever he says, goes. And he says a lot of weird shit.
* [[Poison Oak Epileptic Trees]]: Many fans now believe that [[The Mole|Hulk Hogan was secretly sent by Vince McMahon in a plot to kill TNA]].
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* [[Shocking Swerve]]: So many times that they're no longer shocking and are often considered senseless.
** However, some actually do manage to come off well.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: The initial reaction to TNA's changeover in 2010 to a traditional four-sided ring, after having been using a six-sided ring for over five years. It can be argued all day as to whether the six-sided ring was gimmickry to begin with, but the fact that the company changed the work environment of a very dangerous profession without informing their employees or production staff beforehand, in order to apparently cater to [[Hulk Hogan]] and his friend's wrestling style, makes the hate at least a little justified.
* [[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]: TNA was originally billed as an alternative to WWE, but over the years, it has [[Follow the Leader|gradually become WWE Lite]].
** Or worse, [[WCW]] Lite.
** Perhaps the biggest example of this is their "3.3.11" promo. About the only thing different from the [[The Undertaker|"2.21.11"]] promo was the color.
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*** This has seemingly been rectified following an incident with [[Ric Flair]] and Jordan's male valet, leading to the latter's apparent dismissal from the company. His female valet disappeared shortly afterward.
*** Now, Orlando is openly groping his opponents like D'Angelo Dinero during his matches. This just takes the implications to a whole 'nother level. Apparently, Orlando would rather sexually assault other men than try to defeat them in a wrestling contest which, should be mentioned, ''is his job!''
** Recently, after [[Rob Van Dam]] was forced to vacate the World Championship, a tournament was held to decide the new champion with final four consisting of [[Kurt Angle]], [[Jeff Hardy]], Ken Anderson, and The Pope. All four former [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] Superstars. There were TNA originals in the tournament, but they all lost to the aforementioned.
** The treatment of the Knockouts could be seen as this, given that they are paid lower and have less screen time than the male wrestlers. Made worse if the rumor why the "unlucky-knockout-gets-her-head-shaved" angle came to be because the Knockouts were complaining about their lack of screen time was true.
*** It's even more grating because the promotion is actually headed by a woman, Dixie Carter-Salinas.
** To add on to the less than pleasant treatment of the Knockouts, they were shut out of the first TNA Impact video game. TNA thought it would be better to put Mike Tenay and Don West in the game over Gail Kim, Awesome Kong, Angelina Love, Velvet Sky, etc.
* [[Unintentionally Sympathetic]]: Many [[Heel|Heels]] in TNA turn out this way.
** For a couple of months, half of Immortal. Fortune was led by [[Red Baron|"The Nature Boy"]] [[Ric Flair|Ric]] [[Memetic Mutation|"God!"]] [[Ric Flair|Flair]] and consisted of several wrestlers the likes of which have helped build TNA from the ground up yet had a very good case to say that they've been [[Demoted to Extra]] for any latest big name veteran fads that may go through the place. When they turned on Immortal using the same exact character premise, [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|the crowd exploded in joy]].
** Then there's the Jarretts; despite being portrayed as a [[Card
** Then there's ODB and Jacqueline, who had legitimate gripe with being ousted from the Knockouts in favor of the current scantly clad, barely talented pieces of eye candy that currently populate the division. The pair claimed intent to "clean up the Knockouts", and as far as this troper is concerned, THANK GOD, they were the faces in this feud.
*** The glaring disconnect of Velvet Sky suddenly cutting "I busted my butt to belong here" promos yet still bending her butt over and getting it kicked the exact same way as when she rolled as an [[Alpha Bitch]] with [[The Beautiful Elite]] (aside from the occasional blowoff DDT and pin, essentially ''winning less believably than [[John Cena|Cena]]'') did not help this.
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*** Dreamer's own heel turn about a half a year later at first saw Bully Ray gleefully forcing his hand in a way that was very much implied to be the same situation. Then he decided AJ and the fans were all [[Ungrateful Bastard|Ungrateful Bastards]] and worked with Bully Ray willingly before leaving weeks later.
* [[Unintentionally Unsympathetic]]: Velvet Sky in the eyes of some fans. It doesn't help that her current "being bullied" angle is seen as a source of [[Snark Bait]] given ''her'' bullying of other knockouts as a part of [[Girl Posse|The Beautiful People]] for nearly her entire career in TNA and is [[Designated Hero|only a face because her friends have turned against her]].
* [[X
** This also helped go away after two more things: first, the notorious lumberjack strap match where, whenever he was out of the ring, he would promptly be beaten down by sixteen fans with leather belts (some of them ''actual'' fans) AND [[Samoa Joe]]. Second, for the smarks at least, [[Hulk Hogan]]'s presence has helped to dull the hate, especially after he essentially buried Jarrett on-screen in a way that almost made Jarrett sympathetic. When he returned to in-ring action, he didn't even have any ''entrance music'' for the first few months.
** Since Immortal began, several of the members (Hogan, Bischoff, and Jarrett) has been building X-Pac heat due to overexposure and really asinine moments (such as Hogan's "No more kayfabe" promo).
** Bubba The Love Sponge had this, chiefly because he was a barely-known radio show host who got into the company thanks to being friends with [[Hulk Hogan]]. When he got fired, [[And There Was Much Rejoicing|pretty much the entire IWC exploded in joy]].
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