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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Since 80-90% of material related to the series is fan-created, this happens quite a bit. We have a [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12914835130A21108100 forum thread] dedicated to collecting them.
* [[Angst Dissonance]]: Parsee's entire existence revolves around her being miserable. This is played for laughs, [[Tsundere|especially]] [[Butt Monkey|by the]] [[Chew Toy|fandom]].
* [[Angst What Angst]]: There are a fair number of characters with grim or even tragic histories, and hints that a few others have their troubled sides, but very little angst occurs onscreen (with a few exceptions, mostly involving [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|Mokou]]), and the tone of the series [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|tends towards carefree]].
* [[Broken Base]]: The fandom will never stop arguing as to what's canon, whether Touhou is canonically grimdark or not, or over popular interpretations.
* [[Canon Sue]]: Watatsuki no Yorihime and her sister Toyohime to some extent. Feats include [[The Ace|besting four of the primary characters in combat]], being able to summon the power of gods [[Always Someone Better|more properly than]] Reimu, and [[No Sell|blocking a Master Spark with her sword]]. [[Lampshaded]] in ''Symposium of Post-Mysticism''.
* [[Counterpart Comparison]]:
** Shou with Ran. Ever since she appeared and was revealed to be Nazrin's master (though not originally), everybody started looking at them as the new Chen and Ran. Both Shou and Ran serve "[[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|Old Maids]]", Byakuren being the latest addition to said group, both are animal youkai and both are masters of a type of youkai you wouldn't exactly <ref>Ran is a kitsune/fox, the same family as a dog, and her shikigami Chen is a cat. Shou is a tiger, a feline, and her servant Nazrin is a mouse.</ref>
** Nue with Flandre. Despite their only similarities being the fact that they're both extra stage bosses with bizarre wings and vaguely similar themes, Nue is compared to Flandre, some fans even going as far to call her a rip-off.
** Koishi/Flandre is somewhat popular due to the fact they're both odd, hated sisters of a feared woman who own mansions, occasionally depicted as [[Ax Crazy]].
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** Flandre, despite only appearing in a few games, is far more well known than her more prominent sister Remilia.
** Hong Meiling, Cirno, and Sanae all got primary roles in Hisoutensoku because of their popularity with the fans.
** Merlin's [[Game Breaking Bug]] has led to her becoming the most popular of the sisters, exemplified by being the only one of the three to make the character filter in [[
** [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|Chen has become a beloved character on]] [[Image Boards|certain websites]], mainly thanks to [[Doujinshi|bkub's]] [[Played for Laughs|offbeat]] [[Yonkoma|comics]]
** Since the full release of Ten Desires, Futo has been gaining quite a bit of popularity too.
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** Mononobe no Futo: Who looks similar to Shingyoku's male form.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: Specifically, see "Elitism" and "Mad Bride".
** Often in the arguments over [[Alternative Character Interpretation|Alternative Character Interpretations]], [[Super Weight]], [[The Rashomon|how canon one ending or another really is]], and what difficulty level you have to beat without continues or [[Crack
** And there are fans who dismiss other [[Bullet Hell]] shooters as ''Touhou'' [[Older Than They Think|ripoffs]].
** And there are people who insist all fanon is ''canon'', despite the dialogue in the games saying otherwise.
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* [[Fan Myopia]]: Part of this stems from the sheer volume of fan material. Of course, most of the fan material comes from Japan -- where ''Touhou'' actually ''is'' that well-known.
* [[First Installment Wins]]: Averted with the whole series, but played straight with Windows era games, where ''EoSD'', ''PCB'' and ''IN'' and their casts usually have much, much larger fanbases than the later games.
* [[Freud Was Right]]: Koishi Komeiji's "Embers of Love" attack, formed of [[Cardiovascular Love|heart-shaped]] danmaku flying point-first and leaving a trail behind them, looks a little like [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|a different body part]]. The fandom did not fail to notice, especially since her ability is manipulation of the subconscious.
* [[Genius Bonus]]: Many spell cards are named after obscurities related to science, literature, folklore, and the like.
** Mokou's boss music, "Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke", is a reference to "the smoke that rises to the moon even to this day" at the end of ''The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter''.
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** A majority of shoot-em-up fans, who feel that ''Touhou'' has driven attention away from other shmups, particularly those with more mechanical visual styles.
** Non-shmup fans, who are utterly baffled by the popularity of a simple shmup series and really don't dig [[Moe]], [[Animesque]] fanart, or the [[Improbably Female Cast]].
** People who discover ''Touhou'' through the fandom and then [[
** People who get frustrated, disgusted, or scared away by the enormous [[Fan Dumb]].
* [[
** The fact that fan works and characters draw in many fans, who have never played the games themselves, doesn't sit well with a lot of people. This is allegedly the reason ZUN refuses to allow an official ''Touhou'' anime to be made.
* [[Just Here for Godzilla|Just Here For The]] [[Cute Monster Girl|Cute Monster Girls]]:
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** [[Sibling Incest]]: Any pair of sisters will have fanart showing them in a relationship.
* [[Spoil At Your Own Risk]]: ZUN specifically requested that the endings to the games not be posted on the Internet to avoid spoilers; fan sites have managed to follow this request, but once in a blue moon, the content will pop up ''somewhere''.
* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]:
** Admitting to playing using a pad tends to elicit harassment from some players who think you should be using a keyboard instead.
** Mocking those who play "Easy Modo" is incredibly common, [[Easy Mode Mockery|including in the games themselves]], and stating "it's unforgivable to play Easy Mode unless you're a grade school kid" is one of the fans' many memes. Some take it further and insist that the only difficulty mode is Lunatic.
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* [[Values Dissonance]]: Something not readily apparent to western viewers. Byakuren was originally motivated by fear, then love (the two extremes) and used deception to make youkai and humans equal. She's an ''extremely'' lapsed Buddhist. The Japanese are also critical of the western take on "equality". If you treat the strong and the weak the same way, the strong will have an advantage. Needless to say, quite a few grimdark doujinshi turn her into some sort of evil mass murderer who genocides "weak" beings.
** The same goes for Miko, who is similarly lapsed: Taoism is about letting things be, not actively meddling in everything.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: On Easy difficulty, Cirno's Icicle Fall spell card has a blatant blind spot ''right in front of her.''
** [[Played for Laughs]] in Touhou Soccer [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO3xhnz-Q8s where Letty warns her to use normal level or above].
* [[The Woobie]]:
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** ''Lotus Land Story'', where most of the standard ''Touhou'' gameplay features were introduced.
** ''Embodiment of Scarlet Devil'', with the introduction of the Spell Card system.
* [[
* [[
** A popular opinion of ''Ten Desires'', which ZUN intentionally made easier to attract a wider audience.
** Mostly averted. Despite each game taking on average no more than 30 minutes to complete, the series has a very big following, especially for a [[Shmup]] series.
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