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Depending upon [[Protagonist-Centered Morality|the character's role in the story]] and [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|how cynical the story is]], [[The Ubermensch]] may be characterised as either [[The Fettered]] or [[The Unfettered]].
 
Compare with [[Above Good and Evil]], [[The Anti -Nihilist]], [[Blue and Orange Morality]], [[Byronic Hero]], [[Moral Sociopathy]], [[Pure Is Not Good]] and [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]. Compare and contrast with [[Dark Messiah]], [[The Social Darwinist]], [[The Sociopath]] and [[What Is Evil?]] Contrast with the [[Straw Nihilist]], who ''believes'' themselves to be this trope.
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** Lampshaded in ''[[Berserk Abridged]]'', where Griffith talks to Guts about the idea of the Nietzsche Superman. Guts ends up confusing it for Necromancer.
* [[Chirin no Suzu]] has Wolf as the Ubermensch and the sheep as the Last Man. Chirin starts out as a member of the Last Man and tries to become Ubermensch under Wolf's tutelage. {{spoiler|He fails, and becomes a [[Nietzsche Wannabe]] instead}}.
* ''[[Irresponsible Captain Tylor]]'' can be interpreted as either as an Ubermensch, a Last Man, or possibly a bit of both, based on the last few episodes where his silly and lazy facade shows some cracks. Either he is an intelligent Ubermensch who adopts a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] personality in order to [[Rule -Abiding Rebel|rebel against authority]] and live his life the way he wants to but cares about people and will protect his crew; or he is an juvenile Last Man who realizes that he is just a nobody and refuses to take his responsibilities seriously because of apathy, fear, and/or depression, and hides it all by being a [[Stepford Smiler]]. The truth is probably somewhere between those two extremes.
 
 
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* ''[[Rope]]'': Also based on Leopold and Loeb.
** Generally, anything based off of Leopold and Loeb will have this angle play into it. Even [[So Bad It's Good|Murder By Numbers]] does... a bit.
* If one follows the Nietzschean line of interpretation (which is backed up as a legitimate strand by [[Word of God]] ) to understand the meaning of [[2001: A Space Odyssey (Film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]], the [[Goo -Goo Godlike|Star Child]] is a visual metaphor for the birth of the Übermensch.
* [[The Dark Knight]]: Both Batman and the Joker follow ideals completely separate from the laws that govern the city of Gotham and the codes of the criminal underworld, with Batman following his own ideas of justice and order, and the Joker completely adhering to the destruction and anarchy of chaos. At one point, the Joker mentions the dynamic between them as an "Unstoppable force meeting an immovable object".
* Anton Chigurh of ''[[No Country for Old Men]]''. From what little we can tell about his moral code, a person needs to earn the right to live and he sees himself as the perfect person to carry out that test.
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== Philosophy ==
* According to [[That Other Wiki]], [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_faith:Knight of faith|Soren Kierkegaard's Knight of Faith]] [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Soren_Kierkegaard_and_Friedrich_Nietzsche:Soren Kierkegaard and Friedrich Nietzsche|is this trope predating this trope]]. SK focused on faith based pyschology while FN focused on power based psychology. SK embraced religion and FN rejected religion. SN used Abraham as an ideal and FN used Zarathustra as an ideal. SN say joy as faith and FN saw joy as acceptance of life. SN saw individuals as enemies of the crowd and FN saw individuals as enemies of the herd. Nevertheless, the concept is pretty much simple: both reject the crowd's morality, and live by their own.
 
 
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