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** After confirming, mock every religion which isn't right.
** {{color|red|It is forbidden to use the red text to directly verify the existence of something supernatural. At best, the phrases "God exists." and "God doesn't exist." are both impossible to say in red.}}
** {{color|red| It is forbidden to use red text to directly verify the existence of something supernatural in Beatrices game according to its rules.}} Actually {{color|red| it is normally possible to use red text to deny supernatural.}} Erika used red to falsify Maria's claim of Beatrice using magic to make candy in [[EP 6]]EP6 and Bernkastel used it to deny Beatrices existance in EP5.
* Trick Beato into self-destructing by reciting {{color|red|"This statement is false."}}
** {{color|blue|Every statement includes an implicit assertion of its own truth. Thus, "This statement is false." is equivilent to "This statement is true and this statement is false." The second statement is a contradiction and thus false. The second statesment and the first statment are eqivilent. Thus, the phrase "This statement is false." will simply be treated as a lie, Beato will be unable to say it in red, but will suffer no further consequences}}
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== Golden Truth is 'Promise Truth' ==
We have very few statements of Golden Truth. EP5's "I guarentee this corpse is Kinzo's!" and one about a flower pedal stating "This pedal was made with magic. It was a very good magic", or something along those lines(As [[EP 6]]EP6 is untranslated and OP doesn't remember the exact phrasing".
 
{{color|blue|I propose that Golden Truth is a promise from the one who understands the whole and utter truth of the statement! It's a promise from someone whom you're debating with that this is an absolute truth which he/she ''can'' prove in some way in an undeniable way}}. It's like saying "I have Red, and I have evidence that exists in the human world to back it up."
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** {{color|red| Erika, made the statement about the candy magic in red during the sixth game!}} You're not trying to calim that scene was falsified are you? {{color|red| Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.}} If you would claim that scene was falsified you must present evidence to support that claim!
** {{color|red| Beato claimed in red that she had the power to create any kind of closed room.}} {{color|blue| The use of the word "any" indicates she could create closed rooms that can only be created using magic.}}
*** Not really, as it's stated in [[EP 6]]EP6 that you can't do anything with magic that can't be done by mortal means. "Any" doesn't state it can create impossible closed rooms, only that it can create any closed room Battler will encounter.
**** That is simply one character's belief, and was never stated in red.
**** {{color|red| Dlanor used Knox's 2nd to stop Battler from using the Red Truth during the trial..}}Therefore, {{color|blue| The red truth is a supernatural element.}} {{color|red|The statement, "The death of the four in the cousins' room has been proclaimed with the red text!!" shows that the red exists.}} {{color|blue| Since the red is a supernatural element the red can not be used to prove that the red exists without violating the rule that forbids the red from being used to confirm the existence of supernatural elements.}}
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== We're all overthinking the Red Truth ==
Yes, there are some lines that are questionable and we need to look out for Jedi Truths, and there are a lot of messes which make human murders seem impossible, like the web of red in [[EP 3]]EP3, but the important thing is that the red can't tell a lie. {{color|blue|It isn't that Ryukishi doesn't want us to think, but he wants us to treat the Red Truth as unforged, untampered evidence for the mystery rather than trying to confirm the validity of every footprint}}.
 
When Ryucakes reveals that the Red Truth was about 20 times simpler than we're all imagining, then that [[The Untwist|Untwist]] will have [[Mind Screw|Mind Screwed]] us not just on the 'Shit that happens in the story' level, but in on a Meta-level so heavy that it would be like [[Arthur Conan Doyle]] having written a cookbook with an [[Excuse Plot]], him having told us it's a cookbook with an [[Excuse Plot]], and us having read so far into the death of one supporting character that we didn't realize it was a cookbook until we realized we knew how to make a tasty quiche after reading.