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* {{color|red| This is plausible.}} Why? Because the OP is right, {{color|red|using the Red Truth, the Blue Truth, and even the Golden Truth to argue and debate is way too damn fun.}}

** {{color|green|The Green Truth feels a bit left out.}}

*** The Green Truth goes around [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]], getting drunk and dialing up old witches in the middle of the night. We didn't invite him for a reason. Hey, wait, why isn't that red? Don't tell me {{color|red|I made a terrible joke.}} What!? Oh, come on...

 

{{color|blue|I propose that Golden Truth is a promise from the one who understands the whole and utter truth of the statement! It's a promise from someone whom you're debating with that this is an absolute truth which he/she ''can'' prove in some way in an undeniable way}}. It's like saying "I have Red, and I have evidence that exists in the human world to back it up."

 

** So what was Battler's irrefutable proof of Kinzo's death prior to every game?

*** (Respondent here.) I would say the scene in EP5 where Natsuhi, Krauss, Nanjo, and (possibly, not certain) Kumasawa are in Kinzo's study and the old fart has just passed away. The one where Natsuhi convinces the others to pretend that [[Of Corpse He's Alive|Kinzo is still alive]].

Yes, there are some lines that are questionable and we need to look out for Jedi Truths, and there are a lot of messes which make human murders seem impossible, like the web of red in [[EP 3]], but the important thing is that the red can't tell a lie. {{color|blue|It isn't that Ryukishi doesn't want us to think, but he wants us to treat the Red Truth as unforged, untampered evidence for the mystery rather than trying to confirm the validity of every footprint}}.

 

 

* We cannot say whether there will be a twist or an untwist regarding this matter. If we, let's say, expect a twist regarding the nature of the red truth, and get an untwist, then that's a meta-twist by itself. However, if we expect an (un)twist, and get exactly that, then that's some sort of a meta-untwist. We can take this to the n-th degree, and end up completely confused. In the end however, this whole is binary - we will get either an n-th degree twist (1), or an n-th degree untwist (0) in the very end. I will now introduce the 'Schrödinger truth': it lets us analyze the circumstances and draw a conclusion regarding the probability of there being a twist behind the red truth:

Battler was able to use this as an underhanded proof method in EP3. Since Kinzo's corpse couldn't be identified on the main gameboard, he first created a new sub-board where identification was possible (or maybe had his piece create it by lying). Then since red truths can apply to individual games, he was able to use the premise he'd defined as a basis to establish Kinzo's death in red on his own board, rather than Lambda's.

 

Putting aside white we have Green, Red, Blue, Gold, and Purple text. Oz consists of the Emerald City (green), which is surrounded by the countries of the Quadlings (red), the Munchkins (blue), the Winkies (yellow, which is obviously just a mundane way of saying gold), and the Gilkins (purple). In fact, once we factor in the fact that people are required to wear green tinted glasses in the Emerald City it could very well correspond to white as well.