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== Anime & Manga ==
* The title character of ''[[Naruto]]'' is described as this by Jiraiya. As he explains when he becomes Naruto's mentor, Naruto possesses such a large reserve of chakra (thanks to his being the [[Sealed Evil in a Can|Nine-Tailed Fox's Can]]), that he can more readily rely on raw power ninjutsu instead of learning the more fine control techniques his peers have learned.
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* An unusual example is to be found in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' - Negi's father Nagi Springfield, known as the 'Thousand Master' for supposedly mastering a thousand spells, is revealed to be a heroic, magical version of this. In truth, he only knows something like 5-6 spells by heart, and has to perform anything more complicated than the bare-bone basics from a tome - but he backs those spells up with a LUDICROUS amount of raw magical power (and a bit of mundane trickery).
** Jack Rakan is thought to be this by many people, and at first glance he doesn't appear to do anything more than just hit things really hard. However, he's [[Obfuscating Stupidity]]: he's ''very'' skilled on top of all his raw power, he just doesn't see much need to use his skills unless his opponent is strong enough to warrant it.
* Hanamichi Sakuragi from ''[[Slam Dunk]]'' is incredibly tall for his early age and has huge physical strength as well as almost animalistic reflexes and jump abilities, but his raw power is paired with a complete lack of experience skill. Therefore he gets stuck by the sidelines in the first part of the series, and has to go through [[Training
** Hitoshi Morishige is a similar, yet less extreme case. He has already gone through the training and it shows when we see him play, but is still very rough around the edges. I.e: he's seen performing an excellent slam dunk, but then gets scolded by the referee for knocking two opponents down while at it.
* Lt. Surge's Raichu in the ''[[Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]]'' anime falls into this. Surge's belief that only fully evolved Pokémon were worthwhile caused him to turn his Pikachu into a Raichu immediately. This Raichu lacks the techniques he would've learned only as a Pikachu and thus relies on his immense power to win.
* Kouichi in ''[[Kurogane no Linebarrel]]'' is this [[Character Development|at first]]; most of his early victories are entirely due to Linebarrel being a [[Lightning Bruiser]], and he causes extreme amounts of collateral damage from inexperience. [[Weak but Skilled|Reiji]] points all of this out when ''he hands Kouichi his ass'' in the fourth episode of the anime.
* Yoshika from ''[[Strike Witches]]'' starts out as one of these, selected by Mio for her immense raw power. Her inability to focus her power causes problems early on.
* ''[[Holyland]]'':
** Yuu
** Katou also applies. Despite his lack of real training, he wins through brute strength, [[Combat Pragmatist|fighting dirty]] and drug-taking that makes him [[Feel No Pain]]. {{spoiler|He gets utterly destroyed later on when a MMA exponent decides to get serious.}}
* Noted by Touma during his first fight with Accelerator in ''[[
{{quote|'''Touma:''' The strongest esper in Academy City... really has no skills at all, huh? Then grit your teeth, weakling. Because a punch [[Badass Normal|from the weakest]] ''[[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|is gonna hurt]]''.}}
** Touma himself is tough as nails and an experienced street fighter, but he gets his ass handed to him when he faces trained martial artists like Kaori and Motoharu.
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** Caleb from Season 7, as well as the Turok-Han (prior to the finale induced [[Villain Decay]]). Punch-for-Punch, Buffy is noticeably outclassed by both, serving as a potent reminder about the overconfidence the Slayer Strength may bring.
* The Evil Queen / Regina from ''[[Once Upon a Time (TV series)|Once Upon a Time]]'' is the [[Manipulative Bastard]] version of this. She's not very smart, and completely [[Genre Blind]]. But she has tools to make up for that—in the fairy tale realm her army and her magic, in the real world she can cower everyone with her status as mayor. With her hate driving her, she uses these to plow through any obstacle in her path.
* ''[[Kamen Rider Fourze]]'' protagonist Gentaro Kisaragi starts off like this, having no fighting skills when he [[Jumped At the Call|straps on the belt]] and starts fighting [[Monster of the Week|Zodiarts]]. This puts him at a disadvantage when he comes up against more skilled opponents, like the Unicorn Zodiarts (a member of the school's fencing club) and [[Second Rider|Kamen Rider Meteor]] (a practitioner of [[Bruce Lee|Jeet Kun Do]]). Eventually he [[Took a Level
* The title character of the South Korean series ''[[Strong Girl Bong-soon]]'' has literally [[Super Strength|superhuman strength]], from a divine gift granted to all the women in her family. She is so worried about losing it by violating the strictures on its use, though, that she does virtually nothing with it, let alone train in its use.
== New Media ==
* Draschine from ''[[Descendant of a Demon Lord]]'' has waved around a 2 handed sword using one hand. She also had a tendency to just swing the blade at opponents without even trying to make the edge concurrent with the swing and properly slice into the foe. Her skill has been improving as the story goes on.
== Sports ==
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* Marisa Kirisame of ''[[Touhou]]'' is perplexingly both Unskilled but Strong ''and'' [[Weak but Skilled]]. She lacks any inherent abilities and can only fight as well as she does by [[Badass Bookworm|studying really hard]], but 90% of that study is purely towards making bigger explosions, lacking the finesse and control of other Magicians (most notably Patchouli) and relying on [[Wave Motion Gun|Master Spark]]ing her opponents into oblivion.
** A straighter example is Utsuho. Not really brought up in the text, but very apparent in the fight (while Marisa [[Gameplay and Story Segregation|fights more or less the same way as everyone else]]). ''Subterranean Animism'' consists almost entirely of gimmick patterns. Except for Utsuho. Her patterns are quite straightforward, making up for that by way of having the largest bullets in the series, and spamming them. Furthermore, while most stage 6 bosses are all about variety, Utsuho sticks with what she does best, not even changing up her nonspells.
* [[The Brute|Flak]] and [[
* Compared to the rest of the cast from his game, Q in ''[[Street Fighter III]]'' flails wildly and throws very telegraphed punches... But when he does hit, it ''[[Mighty Glacier|hurts.]]''
* In ''[[Iji]]'', [[The Dragon|Iosa the Invincible]] has [[Deflector Shields]] that are immune to all weapons and [[Lightning Bruiser|fast, powerful attacks]]... that are widely telegraphed, allowing a quick dodge and retaliation.
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* ''[[Mario Golf]]'' has the characters vary between this and [[Weak but Skilled]]. People who fall into this category include Mario (who would usually fall into [[Jack of All Stats]] in other titles), Daisy (GC), [[Donkey Kong]], Bowser, [[Original Generation|Harry]] (N64), [[Super Mario Sunshine|Shadow Mario]] (GC), [[Super Mario 64|Metal Mario]] (N64), and Petey Piranha (GC).
** Bowser is this in the Mario & Luigi [[RPG]]s. The only attacks he knows is punch things really hard, breathe fire and punch things even harder. He's good at directing his minions, though.
* ''[[
* {{spoiler|[[Runaway Brain|Julius]]}} as he appears in ''[[Kingdom Hearts 3D]]'' uses only punches, body slams, and charges for his attacks. However, the fact that he's a [[Bonus Boss]] in a ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' game should give you a good idea about how tough he is.
* ''[[Fire Emblem]]'': The Fighter and Warrior classes are the embodiment of this trope, with loads of raw strength and HP but poor speed and skill. This is further perpetuated in their battle animations, where half of the time they're practically stumbling over themselves. The fighter's axe and warrior's bow criticals, for example, consist of nothing more than the unit flailing his weapon around uselessly before attacking.
* ''[[Ryu ga Gotoku|Yakuza]] 0'' has the [[Four Is Death|Four]] Mr. Shakedowns. Tall as basketballers and built like houses, their attacks are highly telegraphed and theoretically easy to see coming. With damage that will defeat early-game Kiryu or Majima in one hit plus [[Finishing Stomp]] and boss-level health that leaves plenty of opportunities for players to make that one mistake, though, they don't need much finesse at all.
== Webcomics ==
* As the above quote explains, this was the fatal flaw of the ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'' [[Big Bad]] Damien.
** Grace herself falls into this, as well, as she defeats Damien solely because of her [[Berserk Button]]. This has since been [[Lampshaded]], and Grace has agreed to start [[Boxing Lessons for Superman|martial arts training.]]
** Susan is determined, [//egscomics.com/comic/2017-10-23 agile], in a good shape, got [[In the Blood|innate affinity]] for magic weapons and grows in magical strength necessary to actually use that. But she's "not a fighter". One-hit kill [//egscomics.com/comic/2017-12-08 a distracted aberration]? Sure. The next moment, {{spoiler|she [[Failed a Spot Check|fails at situational awareness]].}} Then she makes a wild swing and tries to turn halfway through it…
{{quote|'''Susan''': (peeling herself from the floor) [[Lampshade Hanging|I've ''got'' to learn how to use a sword]]. }}
* ''[[The Order of the Stick]]'': Xykon doesn't have the refined techniques of a wizard, and quite frankly doesn't ''want'' it. In his own words, the only two things a person needs are "Force in as great a concentration as you can manage, and style. And in a pinch, style can slide." However, you don't get to epic levels without a ton of practice.
** It's also worth noting that Xykon is also ''dangerously'' clever and full of nasty tricks. That Unskilled but Strong behavior isn't actually a lack of skill, it's Xykon being ''lazy''.
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* Bob the Beholder in ''[[Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic]]'' isn't terribly bright and lacks finesse. He succeeds at his tasks in spite of this because he's... [[Eye Beams|well, a beholder.]]
* Subverted in ''[[Spinnerette]]'', where the titular hero's [[Super Strength|spider strength]] is no match for a black belt in aikido.
* ''[[Girl Genius]]'' with Lucrezia, controlling Agatha's body, and got [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100224 enhanced] for a while, but still [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100308 fought to standstill with Zeetha] who ''was'' trained only because it prevents her from being knocked out.
== Web Original ==
* Captain Hammer of ''[[Dr. Horrible's Sing-
{{quote|"OH GOD! Is this pain?! I think this is what pain feels like! MOMMY! SOMEONE MATERNAL!"}}
* Gustave and Alfred from ''[[Darwin's Soldiers]]'' are both [[Funny Animal]]s (Nile crocodile and American bison, respectively) with [[Super Strength]]. Neither of them is a trained martial artist so their fighting style consists of "beat the opponent with anything handy until they stop moving".
* Chair from ''[[Nerdy Show]]'''s "Dungeons & Doritos". Justified in that he was a chair [[A Wizard Did It|turned]] into a dwarf a few weeks ago. That and his player tends to [[Critical Hit|roll high]].
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{{quote|'''Katara:''' She's strong.
'''Other Master:''' She lacks restraint. }}
* In ''[[The Avengers: Earth's
== Real Life ==
* New military technology often came out before the tactics to use it were fully developed but sometimes it remains effective because of its sheer power. One of the most prominent examples is that commanders in [[World War I]] rarely knew how to use tanks effectively, but simply sending them forward to attack was incredibly potent. This is less common with modern technology as modern weapons design has hit a plateau without many entirely new innovations that actually work <ref>The 70 years following the introduction of smokeless powder first in 1847 saw the first modern cartridge appeared in 1869, the box magazine in 1879, the machine gun in 1883, the semi-automatic in 1892, chromed barrels in 1911 and the man portable full automatic in 1916 among many other innovations. By contrast the 70 years proceeding 2016 have largely been refinements of the existing concepts and failed experiments outside of optics and artillery, which don't require substantially different different tactics from their predecessors, and vehicles, which seem to be hitting similar plateaus</ref> and the modern R&D process has learned to include steps to avoid this.
* Computer hardware often falls into a similar problem where drivers and programs aren't yet optimized to the new hardware, but as new hardware it is still substantially more powerful than its predecessors.
* Despite what [[Never Bring a Knife to A Fist Fight]] might have led you to believe, it doesn't take much technique at all for someone to wildly swing a bat, knife or other melee weapon and still inflict injuries that demand medical attention, while the skill floor to win while unarmed and take minor or no injuries in the process is much higher. Any martial arts or other hand-to-hand training that's honest will tell you to run first thing if your opponent pulls a weapon.
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