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** Or better yet, scale the transwarp drive up, and send ''the whole damn ship'' back to Earth with the Doctor in command (so he can administer the hypospray antidote upon arrival, or at least instruct others to do so). Problem solved!

*** ''Or'' even if it wasn't possible to create a man-portable version of the cure (it is, but bear with me) the Doctor, with limited research on the subject and comparatively limited tools, took no more than a day to cure it. Starfleet Medical; with state of the art equipment, the brightest doctors in the Quadrant, their own EMH programmes ''and'' full access to the Doctor's research should have been able to cure the mutation both independently and on a completely superior time scale.

** Weird math: Warp 9.999 period (or whatever the speed of Borg Transwarp is) makes it a few months voyage from the Delta to the Alpha Quadrant. Warp 10 means you occupy every point in the entire universe at once.

** That's not so weird; it's an asymptotic relationship (where X approaches Y forever without actually reaching Y). The approach to the speed of light is like this in actual relativity theory (the crossover point being that point at which time is reversed for the traveler). Warp theory probably operates on similar lines, where crossing Warp 10 leads to the whole simultaneous occupation of every point in the universe. My question is why a small ship like Voyager, with a limited staff of non-specialists, is able to make a breakthrough that nobody in the Alpha Quadrant could. Also, since communications move much faster than the vessels themselves, why isn't Starfleet's every data transmission receiveable at every point in the universe?

* The shuttlecraft environment is already optimized for humanoid lifeforms. Why would accelerated evolution ''in that same environment'' result in newt-like creatures who are ''de-adapted'' from their surroundings?

** It's apparently an example of [[Evolutionary Levels]] - except humanity's next level is a newt instead of an [[Energy Being]].

*** Even by the standards of Star Trek in general this episode pretty clearly proved that few, if any, people involved actually understood what evolution is. Not only is evolution not something that happens to a single individual, evolution occurs over ''many'' generations. Even among some kinds of insects that evolve in a relatively quick manner you aren't going to see this.

* One of the most outrageous claims is when Tom and Belanna claim they are trying to break the ''Warp 10 barrier.'' Warp 10 is ''infinite speed''. Wouldn't you technically be going ''beyond'' the speed of infinity?

** At one point, an unknown lifeform beams aboard the Delta Flyer and begins interfacing with the ship's systems, which causes massive power fluctuations. Janeway attempts to reason with it (which doesn't have any effect), before Harron pulls out a phaser, killing it and stopping the drain on the ship's systems. Janeway then proceeds to severely admonish him, saying that the creature could have been friendly. At no time does she bother to take into account that the creature ''couldn't understand her'' and was actively threatening their lives. At best, the creature would have sapped all the power out of the Flyer (which would have killed everyone onboard due to a lack of life support), and at worst, it would have destroyed the ship, or at the very least made the atmosphere unbreathable. Yet, the audience is supposed to be on Janeway's side as she chews out an ensign who just saved the ship from certain destruction because she's playing fast and loose with the Prime Directive...why?

** A little bit of extra stupidity: Janeway's rationale in this whole thing is that it will help them become more productive, but this flat out will not work as she planned it. Mortimer Harron was never motivated to change to a more productive job. This isn't going to change his mind. Tal's problem wasn't motivation but skill -- she simply did not have the proper knowledge to do her job, and this would not teach her. Finally, William's problem is psychological, and the only reason he's "cured" is because he's attacked by one of the aliens. In other words, in order for Janeway's plan to work, she had to risk their lives. Scaring someone straight is one thing, but '''damn''' Janeway, that's harsh.

* In "Endgame" (the series finale), a future version of Janeway travels back in time to get Voyager home earlier. (It seems that the death of Seven of Nine in transit is, in hindsight, completely unacceptable to her, far more so than ''the deaths of everyone else who has died throughout the series!'') In prior episodes, it was established that, in the future, the Federation monitors time travel and prevents interference in the timeline (the Temporal Prime Directive). Getting the ship home 16 or so years earlier, affecting the lives of possibly trillions of people, including at least two on purpose, should have got their attention.

** There is an earlier (by definition) episode in which a future Tom Paris and Harry Kim go back in time to save those left behind. They get berated for it by Janeway. But at the end of season 7 and the series, with no natural end in sight, a time travelling Janeway comes back, destroys a critical portion of the Borg Collective, and sacrifices her life to provide a shortcut home. Under the circumstances, this must be a [[Deus Ex Machina]]; a natural ending for season 7 would've been [[No Ending]], or else something like TNG's "All Good Things".

** She also ignored how it would affect people born to crewmembers after the time she jumped in. These people may [[Ret-Gone|never exist]] or may have wildly different lives if they do, but that doesn't seem to matter to her.

** It's not ethical, but it is tactically sound to decapitate your enemy's leadership to give yourself an advantage. Unfortunately for ''Voyager,'' instead of getting a Kazon Civil War that would have kept them busy, the Kazons got Seska.

** Somebody's remembering the episode wrong. The ship ''did'' shoot up the meeting, but thanks to a warning from Janeway, ''and Voyager successfully shooting down the assassin ship'', nobody got killed. The Kazon leaders were ''not'' grateful, and the regular infighting between tribes (which never kept any of the Voyager's crew out of the line of fire in the first place) resumed unabated. This meeting was definitely ''not'' one of the better moments for the Federation's diplomacy, but Janeway is hardly to blame for its failure.