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** How about the fans who ''actually believe StarClan exists'', despite [[Word of God|the author]]'s insistence that she made it up?
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: This quote becomes one after {{spoiler|Longtail's death}}.
{{quote| '''Jaypaw''': "Oh great. Let's lump all the useless cats together and hope a tree falls on them!"}}
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: Before going for their walk, Bluefur tells Snowfur to stop worrying about Whitekit, because it's not the last time she'll ever see him. {{spoiler|Unfortunately, Bluefur was wrong}}.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** Essentially everything in the [[So Bad It's Good]] fanfic ''[[Starkits Prophecy (Fanfic)|StarkitsStarkit's Prophecy]]'' has reached meme status within the fandom. Particularly notable are the following:
*** [[Crowning Moment of Funny|"And he held out... SOME JEW!"]]
*** [[You Fail Religious Studies Forever|"LJESS IS OYUR SAVER"]]
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* [[The Producer Thinks of Everything]]
* [[Sacred Cow]]: The first series generally gets this treatment, but especially The Darkest Hour, which the majority of the fanbase cites as the best Warriors book of all time.
* [[Spiritual Successor]]: to [[Tad Williams]]' ''[[TailchasersTailchaser's Song]]''
* [[Tainted Byby the Preview]]: ''Hollyleaf's Story'' was a victim of this for several reasons. For one, being e-book exclusive meant that people who bought the paper versions were out of luck. Another reason is that novellas are often available for free online, yet this still cost money. And that's not even going into the people who are on the hatred side of the [[Base Breaker|base Hollyleaf broke]]. Harper Collins didn't seem to take the hint, as a second e-book exclusive novella is coming out in October 2012.
* [[Tough Act to Follow]]: The success of ''Warriors'' is the reason why ''Seekers'', the Erin Hunter team's other series, never gets any recognition.
* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]: Strong gore and violence, [[Nightmare Fuel]], mature themes, implicit sexual content. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130228011527/http://xashleymx.deviantart.com/art/Tigerstar-s-death-157075831 For Ages 9-12.]
 
 
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** Scourge's backstory in ''Rise of Scourge'' has generated lots of justifiable sympathy for him, but many fans have [[Misaimed Fandom|taken it]] ''[[Misaimed Fandom|way]]'' [[Draco in Leather Pants|too far]] in saying that his unfortunate and abusive childhood completely justifies and excuses him for all the evil he's done.
** {{spoiler|Ashfur}}, too, to those who like him. Those who hate him were [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|celebrating]] when he died.
* [[Badass Decay]]: The Tribe of Rushing Water. When they first appear in ''Moonrise'', the [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin|Cave-Guards]] are protrayed as large, muscular, capable bodyguards who are able to restrain the main characters. When they show up again in ''Outcast'', the entire Tribe seems to lack knowledge of ''any'' basic fighting techniques, and are continually getting their asses kicked by a bunch of untrained rogues, who are able to kill several Tribe cats without suffering any casualties themselves.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Ever since ''Long Shadows'' came out, everyone either seems to [[The Scrappy|hate Ashfur's guts]] or [[Draco in Leather Pants|adore him to death]]. Then there's the debate about whether kittypet discrimination is racism and whether Firestar is a lovable hero or a a washed out Gary Stu.
** Dovepaw.
* [[Cargo Ship]]: JayfeatherxStick [[OTP]].
** {{spoiler|[[Ship Sinking]]. Towards the end of ''The Fourth Apprentice'', he breaks the stick. ''[[Big No|Nooooo!]]''}}
** This has to be the first time in history [[Ship Sinking]] has verified the pairing in question: {{spoiler|Vicky says that Jay/Stick was romance; therefore, it had to be doomed}}.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Scourge, Brokenstar, Tigerstar.
* [[Crack Pairing]]:
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* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Pretty much every [[Star-Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]] pairing has suffered more than it's fair share of hatred, for better or worse, considering it's, ya know, [[Star-Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]]. (Even though {{spoiler|they usually always end badly}}.) Nightcloud, Daisy, and Millie tend to get the worst of the shipping-fueled hate.
** Cinderheart has been getting some of it more recently. The fans insist it isn't ship-related, but the way she went from being mostly ignored to being accused of being one of the worst characters ever created by people who ship alternative Lionblaze pairings right after the book that introduced the possibility of her and Lionblaze was released seems like too much of a coincidence.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Hawkfrost and Ashfur.
** A sizable amount of this character's fans like to paint Ashfur as an innocent victim and make [[Ron the Death Eater|Squirrelflight the bad guy]]. Other times, he may be portrayed as a lonely, broken cutie who only needed a nice, understanding she-cat to reach out to him, when he was really borderline mentally-ill and largely apathetic towards love after Squirrelflight rejected him.
** Pretty much every villain to some degree among the fans that [[Misaimed Fandom|don't understand]] the concept of [[Gray and Grey Morality]]. Although (thankfully) some villains, like Hawkfrost and Tigerstar, have fans that like them ''because'' they are villains.
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** Purdy is one of the most popular cats, even without having the same, ahem, charm as other characters.
** Despite showing up in very few scenes - not getting even a speaking role in his first appearance - Shredtail has achieved a surprising amount of popularity.
* [[He's Just Hiding]]:
** Many fans believed that Snowkit did survive being caught by a hawk.
** Hollyleaf, after she went to the tunnels. {{spoiler|Confirmed to be alive}}.
** Graystripe is an interesting case. From the perspective of the characters, it seemed almost certain that Graystripe was dead or was going to die. The readers, on the other hand, know that it's highly unlikely that Twolegs would kill an innocent cat intentionally, so it was pretty clear that Graystripe was alive, even if he might never return.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Firestar and Graystripe, Firestar and Whitestorm, Darkstripe and Tigerstar, Ravenpaw and Barley, [[Incest Is Relative|Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw]], Birchfall and Berrynose, Blackstar and every single leader he's been a deputy under plus Sol, Sol and Purdy... Let's just stop now and say ''a lot,'' to the point that [[Warrior Cats (Literature)/Ho Yay|it now has its own sub-page]].
* [[Idiosyncratic Ship Naming]]: Fire/Sand=Gingershipping, Bramble/Squirrel=Quarrelshipping, [[Cargo Ship|Jay/Stick=Woodenshipping]], etc. Full list [https://web.archive.org/web/20130905063116/http://forum.warriorswish.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15722 here].
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Crookedstar.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]:
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** Breezepelt.
* [[Karma Houdini]]: Ashfur. Jayfeather has a point here:
{{quote| "Hardly. He tried to push us off the cliff!"}}
** But, as Yellowfang pointed out: he didn't actually do it, did he?
*** Only because he thought of something that he believed would cause ''more'' pain for the cat he wanted revenge on. Even prior to the whole ''Long Shadows'' thing, though, he already did conspire with a RiverClan cat to ''kill his own leader'', dragging his innocent apprentice (who thought he was saving his Clan from a ShadowClan invasion) into it, and Firestar ''would'' have died if not for Brambleclaw's actions.
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* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: {{spoiler|Sol}}, Tigerstar, Scourge, Hawkfrost.
* [[Mary Sue]]: Firestar, Cinderheart, Leafpool, Spottedleaf, and Lionblaze are commonly accused of being this by some.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Mousewhisker]] on Vicky's [[Face BookFacebook]] page. [http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150254063017454&id=100000657920607 They have even started making] [[Chuck Norris Facts|Mousewhisker Facts]].
** Also Mapleshade.
** Purdy.
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** The deeds of Brokentail and especially [[Complete Monster|Scourge]] belong here as well.
** {{spoiler|Kidnapping Leafstar's kits so he could rescue them to prove he was a warrior}} in ''After The Flood' is the last straw for Leafstar.
* [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap]]: Ivypaw In ''Night Whispers''
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: Oh so many, mostly for [[Die for Our Ship|shipping related reasons]]:
** Cinderheart to Cinderpelt.
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