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** ...and [[Ship to Ship Combat|shippings]].
* [[Continuity Lock Out]]: It is actually possible to skip the first series and start with the second series, but from the third series onward, it keeps getting less and less accessible to new readers.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: A ''lot''. ''So'' many people are always talking about how the first series was the best and the other series are too mushy and full of [[Star -Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]] and needs more violence. [[Sarcasm Mode|Because that's what makes good literature]].
** I think their complaints mostly center around the fact that the 2nd and 3rd series are more focused on love and family issues, whereas the 1st series is more focused on survival and the forces of nature. A popular complaint is that the 2nd and 3rd series are more like a soap opera than an animal story.
** Most of their complaints either don't make sense (There still is ''a lot'' of [[Family -Unfriendly Violence|violence]] in the second and third series), or also apply to the first series (there is actually more [[Star -Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]] in the first series than the other two ''combined'').
*** The complaints about forbidden love seem to be more directed towards how it's a constantly recycled plot device. Thankfully, the authors have taken notice of this, and most of the new forbidden relationships never end well. {{spoiler|Leafpool and Crowfeather, anyone? How about Dovepaw and Tigerheart?}}
** How about the fans who ''actually believe StarClan exists'', despite [[Word of God|the author]]'s insistence that she made it up?
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* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: Before going for their walk, Bluefur tells Snowfur to stop worrying about Whitekit, because it's not the last time she'll ever see him. {{spoiler|Unfortunately, Bluefur was wrong}}.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** Essentially everything in the [[So Bad ItsIt's Good]] fanfic ''[[Starkits Prophecy (Fanfic)|Starkits Prophecy]]'' has reached meme status within the fandom. Particularly notable are the following:
*** [[Crowning Moment of Funny|"And he held out... SOME JEW!"]]
*** [[You Fail Religious Studies Forever|"LJESS IS OYUR SAVER"]]
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* [[Tainted By the Preview]]: ''Hollyleaf's Story'' was a victim of this for several reasons. For one, being e-book exclusive meant that people who bought the paper versions were out of luck. Another reason is that novellas are often available for free online, yet this still cost money. And that's not even going into the people who are on the hatred side of the [[Base Breaker|base Hollyleaf broke]]. Harper Collins didn't seem to take the hint, as a second e-book exclusive novella is coming out in October 2012.
* [[Tough Act to Follow]]: The success of ''Warriors'' is the reason why ''Seekers'', the Erin Hunter team's other series, never gets any recognition.
* [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's for Kids?]]: Strong gore and violence, [[Nightmare Fuel]], mature themes, implicit sexual content. [http://xashleymx.deviantart.com/art/Tigerstar-s-death-157075831 For Ages 9-12.]
 
 
== Character Related ==
* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: Tigerstar. Although probably more because of his terrible death than anything he did or said.
** Scourge's backstory in ''Rise of Scourge'' has generated lots of justifiable sympathy for him, but many fans have [[Misaimed Fandom|taken it]] ''[[Misaimed Fandom|way]]'' [[Draco in Leather Pants|too far]] in saying that his unfortunate and abusive childhood completely justifies and excuses him for all the evil he's done.
** {{spoiler|Ashfur}}, too, to those who like him. Those who hate him were [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|celebrating]] when he died.
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** ScourgexSandstorm, usually for people who are SpottedleafxFirestar or CinderpeltxFirestar fans.
** Don't forget LionblazexPurdy and ThunderstarxBumblekit.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Pretty much every [[Star -Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]] pairing has suffered more than it's fair share of hatred, for better or worse, considering it's, ya know, [[Star -Crossed Lovers|forbidden love]]. (Even though {{spoiler|they usually always end badly}}.) Nightcloud, Daisy, and Millie tend to get the worst of the shipping-fueled hate.
** Cinderheart has been getting some of it more recently. The fans insist it isn't ship-related, but the way she went from being mostly ignored to being accused of being one of the worst characters ever created by people who ship alternative Lionblaze pairings right after the book that introduced the possibility of her and Lionblaze was released seems like too much of a coincidence.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Hawkfrost and Ashfur.
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** Rainflower. Her [[Abusive Parents|particularly cruel treatment]] to her son and few redeeming qualities earned her a big hatedom.
** Nightcloud, due to [[Die for Our Ship]], as well as her [[Jerkass]] tendencies.
* [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Stick and co. in ''SkyClan's Destiny''.
* [[Stoic Woobie]]: Ashfur, for [[Broken Base|his fans]].
* [[Too Cool to Live]]: Whitestorm
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** Leafpool is possibly the queen of this trope, out of all the characters. She falls in love, but then they're forced to break up. {{spoiler|After she has kits, she is not able to be a proper mother to them, instead being a nice aunt who has to watch them from the sidelines. Then her secret is revealed by Hollyleaf, and suddenly all of her kits hate her for not telling them she was their mother.}}
** Antpelt seemed to be a decent cat for those training with Dark Forest. One must wonder how horribly must have been treated in WindClan and how sad his life must have been if he considered Dark Forest cats his friends, despite the abuse and cruel treatment he received there.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: Scourge and {{spoiler|Mapleshade}}.
 
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