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* This is, as can be seen below, the entire point of [[Alternate History]].
 
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== Arts & Entertainment ==
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* What if the Pacific Fleet's aircraft carriers had been at Pearl Harbor on the morning of December 7, 1941?
** The losses of battleships would not have been as great because some of the firepower would have been directed at the carriers instead. The long term fallout would have been for the US to pursue a more balanced course of warfare<ref>not as carrier-centric</ref> in the Pacific that would have incorporated more and better AA capability over the fleets and more aggressive use of battleships. Japan would have eventually gotten the massive, climactic naval clash it constantly pursued for the first half of the war, but they would have faced off against a larger, combined fleet of more modern US battleships and carriers that would have still scheduled the Imperial Japanese for a date with Davy Jones, but the battleships would have done most of the heavy work to include sinking the IJN Yamato<ref>very much within the capabilities of the ''North Carolina'', ''South Dakota'' and ''Iowa'' class battleships</ref> and the rest of the Japanese heavy fleet. Also, we would have likely seen the deployment of the ''USS Montana'' class.
** The pre/early war Mark 14 Torpedo is well documented as a non-functional garbage due to a total lack of testing <ref>Among many other issues, the firing pin for the contact detonator wasn't parallel to the torpedo so upon hitting a target it would bend from the crash instead of doing its job, and the fancier detonators failed to account for the world's oceans not being homogeneous in various qualities they were tuned to</ref> and the Bureau of Ordinance refused to even discuss the possibility their wonder weapon was faulty. Several critical Japanese vessels were struck with these faulty torpedoes very early in the war. What if the damn things were tested and fixed pre-war?
** Following the end of the war, the USN would have held onto her heavy-armored fleets and her big gun firepower. As thick, battleship armor is ''easily'' able to shrug off any non-nuclear anti-ship missile or cruise missile, this would also prevent the sea-skimming anti-ship missile from becoming the dominant weapon in modern naval warfare. With a little ingenuity and heavy investment in S/VTOL fighter technology, we could have seen [[The Battlestar]] 's sea-faring counterpart, AKA [[Military Mashup Machine|the battle-carrier]] become a serious reality.
* What would have happened to the Republic of Colombia if Jorge Eliecer Gaitan wouldn't have been killed off?.
** Or what would have happened if Luis Carlos Galán would have been assasinated too?.
* What if people had listened to Saddam's son-in-law Hussein Kamil? He defected in 1995, telling the world about the things Saddam's scientists had done with weapons of mass destruction. However, while that got the media attention, he also told the world, [https://web.archive.org/web/20120908195614/http://www.fair.org/press-releases/kamel.pdf several] [http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9509/iraq_defector/kamel_transcript/index.html times] that Iraq had DESTROYED all its WMD. It took a war to prove he was right.
* What if the Colombian Exchange never happened? And Eurasia and the Americas were permanently separated. True, we'd have much less of the goods that the two sides have exchanged, but we'd also have FAR fewer diseases.
* What if Stéphane Dion had succeeded in his plans to set up a Liberal-NDP-Bloc Quebecois government in Canada after the 2008 election? The Conservative PM, Stephen Harper had parliament suspended for two months in an attempt to ward off a vote of no confidence, and in the meantime Dion was forced out of the Liberal leadership and replaced with Michael Ignatieff, who promptly abandoned the coalition plan and announced that the Liberals could win the next election outright... only for the 2011 election to result in a handsome Conservative majority and the Liberals being ''slaughtered''. Had Dion held onto his position (or if Ignatieff had stuck with the coalition plan), then the last few years might have been very different for Canada.
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== Science &and Technology ==
* In both the book and the series ''Cosmos'', astronomer [[Carl Sagan]] expresses his regret and frustration about how science, after being born before 500 AD and flourishing, soon became an ivory-tower intellectual thing which did not get shared, didn't improve the lives of the people, and was swallowed and scorned by superstition. Science died for a thousand years with the burning of the Library of Alexandria, which in both the book and the series he mourns with a quiet, heartfelt intensity.
{{quote|"It was as if the entire civilization had undergone some self-inflicted brain surgery, and most of its memories, discoveries, and passions were extinguished irrevocably. The loss was incalculable. In some cases, we know only the tantalizing titles of the works that were destroyed. In most cases, we know neither the titles nor the authors. We do know that of the 123 plays of [[Sophocles]] in the Library, only seven survived. One of those seven is ''[[Oedipus the King|Oedipus Rex]]''. Similar numbers apply to the works of [[Aeschylus]] and [[Euripides]]. It is a little as if the only surviving works of a man named [[William Shakespeare]] were ''[[Coriolanus]]'' and ''[[The Winter's Tale|The Winters Tale]]'', but we had heard that he had written certain other plays, unknown to us but apparently prized in his time, works entitled ''[[Hamlet]]'', ''[[Macbeth]]'', ''[[Julius Caesar (theatre)|Julius Caesar]]'', ''[[King Lear]]'', ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]''."}}
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** Darwin may be given too much credit (if that's possible?), but a large part of his fame is how he collated huge amounts of data before publishing. For example, he wrote about how "half an eye" could be useful, yet the canard comes up from time to time in creationist arguments.
* As part of the Apollo Program, at one point NASA was considering using the hardware to send the astronauts on a Venus flyby. The first manned interplanetary flight could have happened nearly '''40 years ago''' instead of--wait it hasn't happened yet, huh?
** Considered doesn't mean doable. You could consider that jumping off a building onto a canvas tent might slow you down enough to survive with minor injuries, but chances are you won't. The Apollo vehicles only had just enough to keep the crew alive for the days it took to get to the moon and back. That won't apply for the ''months'' it would take for a Venus flyby. You'd have to scale up the vessel considerably to support the supplies needed for that trip, which is NOT''not'' that simple for space since every bit of weight counts. Now look at how big the Saturn V was just to send the tiny modules needed to get to the moon in space. Scaling that up for the huge vessel needed to do a flyby is too big, expensive, and impractical to attempt with 60s technology. Hell, it's still too big, expensive, and impractical to attempt it with today's technology.
* Three Words: ''Dinosaurs. Never. Died.''
** They didn't. We still have birds.
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*** [https://web.archive.org/web/20131104232556/http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/library/Dixon_2/00_en.htm Here's something of interest.]
** If the Mesozoic extinction never happened, we would be small lemur-like animals, and the world would be populated by tiny, rabbit-sized sapient descendants of Troodontids. Think a small bird except with four wings, teeth, clawed hands, and a tail.
** On a side note, what if the Permian-Triasic mass extinction never occuredoccurred?
*** We would be living in fear of Gorgonopsids.
* This troper recalls reading about a What If? historical paper (which I unfortunately cannot recall the title of) which points out how the Ancient Greeks had invented a steam engine, and the Ancient Persians had a functional railway system for transporting goods. If the two had not been at war, or had stolen each other's technology, the course of nearly three thousand years of history could have been radically altered.
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** Also, slavery back then was so cheap that nobody had any interest in using the steam engine for any practical uses. It was just an interesting bit of mechanics. What if slavery had been outlawed in ancient Greece?
* What if the Big Bang never happened...''at all?''
** Nothing . . . ''ever''.
* Cracked.com's [http://www.cracked.com/article_19531_5-scientific-advances-that-should-have-changed-everything.html "5 Scientific Advances That Should Have Changed Everything"], which included:
** What if the electric car had retained the foothold it had during the early 20th century, rather than falling into obsolescence once oil was discovered in Texas, making internal combustion engines king?
** What if the U.S. government had taken Robert Goddard's rocket research seriously and fostered it, rather than ignoring it as nonsense? And what if that same government had taken Goddard more seriously when he told them that Nazi Germany was making serious inquiries into his rocket research (The government's reaction was basically "Fine! Let the Nazi play with their little rockets!")?
** What if [http://chemistry.mtu.edu/~pcharles/SCIHISTORY/HenryCavendish.html Henry Cavendish's] work was discovered an implimented in his time (He came up with his own versions of Richter's Law, Ohm's Law, Coulomb's Law, Charles's Law of Gases and Dalton's Law in the Eighteenth Century)? Or more to the point, what if Cavendish wasn't a paranoid recluse who actually shared his theories with ''anybody?''
* The Avro Arrow, [[Canada, Eh?|Canada]]'s [[Cool Plane|first supersonic jet fighter]], was highly advanced for its time but [[Too Good to Last|cancelled in 1959]] and the [[No Plans, No Prototype, No Backup|blueprints destroyed]], amidst a storm of controversy over its development costs, and after the Diefenbaker Government withdrew its funding for the project. If Diefenbaker had lost in 1957 and the project had proceeded in full, the Arrows would likely have served Canada for years and exported to various military powers. However, the long term trend would probably have been towards consolidation with other aircraft makers, given the escalating costs of designing and building jet fighters.
** Alternately, they could still have been scrapped in favour of anti-air missiles and anti-missile missiles - everybody was scaling back or outright scrapping interceptor jets at the time - but the plans and prototypes might have survived.
 
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