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** Team Kimba: Powerful, but made up of compassionate and heroic individuals, or an [[Affably Evil]] subversion of a [[Nakama]] whose members have almost no sense of restraint or mercy, care more about each other then the rest of the world, and are each a danger to the rest of humanity [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|for]] [[The Fair Folk|one]] [[Beware the Nice Ones|reason]] [[Cosmic Horror|or]] [[I Did What I Had to Do|another?]]
** Jade as written by Babs Yerunkle is a mature young woman struggling to overcome physical limitations and the dangers presented by the world with the help of her friends. Jade as written by Diane Castle is a [[Crazy Awesome]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|Psychopathic Girlchild]] who is a continual source of crazy, entertaining things. YMMV on which version is better.
* [[Artistic License: Biology]]: Naturally part of the mutant factor, however, the vast majority of people have started puberty by 14 (and in fact many girls are actually just about done with it by that time), yet all the characters shown have only recently come into their puberty and powers. It's plausible that the mutant gene causes later puberty
** It's (jokingly) suggested that there is an increasing number of MTF mutants because the mutant gene is trying to outbreed the baseline genes. Even a cursory knowledge of genetics makes this patently ridiculous as genes aren't intelligent. <ref> And also begs the question why there would be homosexual mutants at all, given that it defeats said purpose</ref>.
*** It's also been suggested that, while the genes themselves aren't intelligent (duh), there are intelligent forces manipulating the situation both for and against the mutants, which is not entirely implausible in a universe where gods, [[Fair Folk]], and [[Cthulhu Mythos]] entities are not only real, but awake, aware, and active.
** A fact occasionally tossed out is that the trans mutants have baseline hormone levels of members of the opposite gender and this somehow explains them developing secondary sex characteristics of that gender incredibly quick. For example Fey goes from male to having to pass as female within the span of a month due to have moderate sized breasts. In real life of course, secondary sex characteristics take years to develop. Justified to an extent however in that speed of change is apparently incredibly variable depending on the individual, and for some it is agonizingly slow while for others it is almost instantaneous.
* [[Artistic License Religion]]: The description Whateley gives for the Tao doesn't match up with the real-life Taosim. At all.
* [[Crazy Awesome]]: A few secondary characters. For example, imagine if the neighborhood daredevil developed a healing factor. What does he do? Go into business as a paid guinea pig/test pilot for the [[Gadgeteer Genius|mad scientist students']] more iffy experiments at the school.
** And he lets Phase rip off his dick in the cafeteria. At lunch. In front of the entire school.
* [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: [[Whateley Universe/Awesome|Here's the page.]]
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: In ''Yet Another Day As An Outcast'', the Outcasts take on the Goobers in an arena match. They start off by summoning the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
** At the Halloween dance, Miyet has Hello Kitty gear glued onto her. Jimmy T asks Circe (yes, ''that'' Circe) to get it off, and Circe does so with the spell 'Bippity boppity boo, no glue for you!' It works.
** In the first Boston Brawl story, people keep identifying Heartbreaker by her ass.
* [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]]: A few, on and off, but on standout, perhaps, is the end of Jadis' first solo story. {{spoiler|She has a shrine in her wardrobe to the superhero she thinks is her mother. She sticks up a newspaper clipping of her saving a bunch of people, and asks whether her mother might one day tell her that she's proud of her}}.
** In "Ayla and the Grinch", Ayla disguises himself as a beauty pageant contestant to hide from the MCO. He then ends up fighting a demon. Two of the other contestants face down the demon armed with nothing more than symbols of their faith (and it actually works). After the fight, Ayla goes to see them in the pageant, and while neither of them gets a place, he makes some calls and gets them scholarships and free long-term sessions with psychiatrists.
* [[Designated Hero]]: Almost every main character has had moments of these, but special mention goes to Sara -- who rapes (in [[Mind Rape|both ways]]) the resident [[Jerkass]] [[Mad Scientist]] because she thought it'd be useful to have him angry at her, and Chou, who goes around killing people because a magic sentient sword told her to.
* [[Designated Villain]]: The Goodkinds shift between this and Knight Templar. Possibly lampshaded, since Ayla is quick to defend his family, AND retains contact with a few.
* [[Dude, Not Funny]]: Some fans felt this way about the [[Black Comedy Rape]] scenes in ''The Book of Jobe''.
** The blatant MTF fetishism is offensive to some people.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Amongst people who dislike the series, Ayla and Jade are more popular for having more balanced powers and a more respectful take on transgender issues.
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* [[Mary Sue]]: The biggest source of [[Your Mileage May Vary]] and [[Broken Base]] in the series; just about every character (and Team Kimba in particular) has fans and anti-fans who consider them sue-riffic. However, the school is a [[Super-Hero School]], so some [[Common Mary Sue Traits|common Sue warning signs]] are, well, really common. For example, one of the [[Most Common Superpower|Most Common Superpowers]] in the setting is a passive power that makes you [[Involuntary Shapeshifting|slowly shapeshift]] into your ideal physical shape, usually something [[Most Common Superpower|unbelievably]] [[Top-Heavy Guy|attractive]] (or at least a very [[Heroic Build]]). Not that this is always a good thing, see the [[Involuntary Shapeshifting]] entry above.
** Personality-wise, it often varies between authors. Whether and to what degree someone is sadistic (but never caught), competent (when no one else is), powerful (at the expense of plot) or annoying (yet no one in story catches on) changes depending on who's in the spotlight.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:
** "Sara's Little Purple Book," a guide to mutant sexuality, varies between [[Crowning Moment of Funny]] and this.
** Two words: ''Dark Generator''. {{spoiler|In the sim, her first attack (apart from Shroud going rogue too) is to animate part of Melville Cottage, turn it into a 30-ft golem and send it to attack. That is, not only part of the building, but ''everything in it'', including furniture, possessions and people.}}
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* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: Multiple.
** The "glamor" mutants like Medusa, Fey or Sara have essentially makes them extremely attractive to people or causes sexual arousal in people affected by it, to the point that some of these powers can bypass even sexual orientation -- See [[Even the Guys Want Him]] above. Whether or not this is a form of mild [[Mind Rape]] (or actual rape, if they do anything with it) is up to the reader.
** The biggest one might be the fact that all the LGBT students are '''segregated''' from the rest of the school and asked to remain in the closet. The school attempts to justify this by saying that anti-queer bias is so deeply ingrained into Western society that homophobic bullying would be inevitable and apocalyptic in proportion, and all it would take is one incredibly angry homophobe for a tragedy. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on whether or not the justification is sufficient.
*** And the most unfortunate part of that implication: The semi-official cover story for that dorm, obliquely hinted at by the school administration whenever someone outside the dorm wonders why so many Poesies seem a little "off", is that it's the dorm for students with mental problems.
*** [[Fridge Logic]] makes it worse: In canon people have an easier time accepting the fact that people at the school are very much non human than they do that that the hot chick might've been a boy until recently. If for example, Poes was instead "Every Jew, Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist must hide their faith here because the world is simply too intolerant" it would never have gotten off the ground, which in and of itself just shows the blatant fetishism of transgendered people inherent with the series.
*** Funnily enough, in [[Real Life]] bashing LGBT people has become distinctly something that is not tolerated by Western society more and more, making the justification even more unfortunate.
** After being a girl for only six weeks, Tennyo defended herself against a sasquatch-like mutant who had been trying to bully her by flipping him over her shoulder and pinning him to the ground after he grabbed her. When a teacher heard rumors about this event, he chastised her for not acting enough like a girl, implying that girls should act according to outdated stereotypes and that standing up for yourself, even if you are able to, is improper for a girl.
** The fact that the sole FTM of Team Kimba is the only one without his own set of stories.
*** The Meta-[[Unfortunate Implications]] inherent with people speculating that he is actually a villain because of that, and not that [[FT Ms]] are basically ignored.
** [[Second Law of Gender Bending]] takes place incredibly fast, even from characters virulently hating their situation. Fey for instance spends all of about a day worrying that she's become fully female, before giggling and deciding to take Tennyo on a shopping spree.
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* [[The Woobie]]: Jade
** Merry could also qualify, the chewtoy that she is.
** As above, Greasy shifts to this when Peeper's abuse is taken seriously.
** Phase.
 
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