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== [[Wicked (Literaturenovel)|Wicked]] ==
 
* It bugs me from a logic standpoint that Oz has guns as evinced by Fiyero's arbequesque like rifle, but no one tried to shoot down Elphaba at the end of 'Defying Gravity'
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*** Elphaba is not Half Munchkin. In the book, she says herself, any intelligent munchkin family of nobility breeds for height somewhere along the line and purity of the bloodlines is not a big concern, meaning that Melena is of reasonable height because she is a Munchkin noble, and Elphaba's father is not even a Munchkin. Also note that most of the Shiz students are not Munchkins, they are Gilikinese. The only real noticeable height difference in any of the characters should be with Boq, who should be, well, munchkin-sized.
*** Seeing as I was using the information given in the play, Elphaba is the daughter of her mother and the Wizard, plus a green elixir. And it's not like it's ever specified in the play that the students at Shiz are Gilikinese... I did try to read the book, but I couldn't stand more than a few chapters before it got just too dense for me.
*** Actually, as far as I'm aware, in the original Oz books there's no mention of the Munchkins being shorter than other people from Oz. They're described as short when Dorothy first meets them, but they're the first Ozites she's seen, so the features that make them different from Kansasians are given extra emphasis. A decent argument can be made that ''everyone'' in Oz is very short by [[Real Life]] standards, and L. Frank Baum just rarely bothered to mention it. As for ''[[Wicked (Literaturenovel)|Wicked]]'', the only non-Ozites we see are the Wizard (who, if the original illustrations are anything to go by, is a rather short fellow) and Dorothy (who's a small child); if everyone's more-or-less equally short, and their surroundings are of an appropriately small scale, there's no reason the height difference should ever come up.
* I'm probably looking too much into this, but I recently watched ''[[The Wizard of Oz (Filmfilm)|The Wizard of Oz]]'' while keeping ''[[Wicked (Theatretheatre)|Wicked]]'' in mind, and during the scene where the Tin Man is introduced, he mentions that he became rusted a year ago. But according to ''[[Wicked (Theatretheatre)|Wicked]]'', Tin Man/Boq becoming rusted couldn't have been more than two days before Dorothy and Scarecrow/Fiyero encounter him. I can readily agree with the theory that Scarecrow/Fiyero is lying (or stretching the truth, at the very least) about not having a brain as part of a [[Xanatos Gambit]], but what reason does Tin Man/Boq have to lie about how long he was rusted?
** Well, the short answer is the people writing the musical didn't think it out very well. Maybe Boq just felt like being melodramatic or something. Of course in the book the tin man actually ''had'' been in his metal state for years, though he still wasn't Boq.
** Boq was trying to manipulate both Nessa and Elphie. Remember "The March Of The Witch Hunters"?
* I haven't read any of the sequels, so maybe this is explained there, but where exactly did the Scarecrow come from? In the original ''[[The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (Literature)|The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]]'' and [[The Wizard of Oz (Filmfilm)|the 1939 movie]], no explanation is given for how the Scarecrow can move and think and talk, and none of the characters seem to need one; it's just accepted that, in the Land of Oz, a lot of weird and silly stuff exists, talking scarecrows included. But ''[[Wicked (Literaturenovel)|Wicked]]'' is much more of a [[Low Fantasy]] tale; [[Talking Animal|Talking Animals]] and a handful of spellcasters are pretty much the limit of its fantastic elements. Given that, the Scarecrow's existence kinda sticks out like a sore thumb. If he's the result of an enchantment like the Tin Man, by who and for what purpose? (and I'm talking about in the book; I'm aware that the musical addressed this)
** No it hasn't, at least not yet. Maybe in the last book.
** For what it's worth, the original Oz books did eventually get around to explaining how the Scarecrow came to life -- in book fifteen. If the ''Wicked'' series keeps going, it may eventually reach that point, but it'll probably take a while.
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