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* One interpretation of ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' (and the whole series) is that the characters are tragically wrong about the whole "no fate" thing.
** That doesn't fit with ''[[The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' (though [[Canon
** Arguably, in ''The Terminator'', Kyle and Skynet erroneously believe history can be changed. Then ''Terminator 2'' retcons it so that they're right.
* In the [[Star Trek (film)|new]] ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' [[Star Trek (film)|movie]], old Spock relies on Kirk's lack of knowledge about the mechanics of time travel in convincing Kirk not to reveal old Spock's existence to his past self.
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