Yu-Gi-Oh!: Bonds Beyond Time/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

** Considering that Yusei {{spoiler|has the Dragon Head birthmark}} at this point, it takes place during Season 3 (or if you count the Fortune Cup and Dark Signer arcs as one, Season 2). Yusei also mentions Bruno, which means the movie's events occurred after Episode 80. The blue pendant from the Crash Town arc also makes an appearance, which means the movie may have taken place after the Crash Town arc (Episode 92).

** It also takes place before Leo {{spoiler|receives his Signer mark}}.

 

* Killing Pegasus when Paradox did so would not end up in Duel Monsters getting destroyed. At most, it would prevent Rainbow Dragon from being created, which would result in Judai still being stuck in the other dimension in Season 3 of GX, thus preventing him from protecting the world from Darkness.

** Maybe he assumed that without Pegasus, Industrial Illusions would collapse and Duel Monsters cards and paraphernalia would stop being manufactured- that, in essence, Industrial Illusions had [[No Ontological Inertia]]? If he was the last man on Earth, its not like anybody would have been around to give him an economics and business management course explaining how that wouldn't happen.

 

* Does Paradox not realize that killing Pegasus would mean Duel Monsters wouldn't become a worldwide phenomenon, so he wouldn't have to go back and kill Pegasus, which in the end would result in [[Grandfather Paradox|the obvious?]]

** We know that Paradox's future was presumably destroyed by Duel Monsters, therefore for the [[Grandfather Paradox]] to occur Duel Monsters needs to cease existing. First of all, it depends on how a time paradox is handled in the story. It could result in a person merely disappearing, history changing or reality getting destroyed. I generally assumed that the paradox would occur only if Pegasus was killed before Duel Monsters got created (I didn't think of the possibility of halting the game's production for this scenario, see above). Now, that situation would obviously result in a [[Grandfather Paradox]] providing that Paradox stayed in the same universe during his time travel and the Novikov Self-Consistency Principle doesn't apply to the timeline. (Which states that the probability of a paradox-creating event existing is zero.) Moreover, the Timeline Protection Hypothesis should not apply, either, which means the natural continuity timeline doesn't exist to prevent the time traveler from creating a time paradox. (Eg. The timeline makes up for the inconsistency by having someone else create Duel Monsters.) If the timeline is split into branches or Paradox actually travels into a parallel universe, then one of the timelines will be unharmed and the changes will only take place in that specific parallel universe/branch. If a paradox doesn't result in reality getting destroyed, then history would still change big time - The Paraoh would not be able to reach the Afterlife because there would be no "shield and sword" to fight with, therefore Bakura and/or Marik could just kill him. Judai's and Yusei's periods would be also heavily altered, Judai would not be able to reunite with Yubel and never become the person he was supposed to be. Yusei's parents worked at MIDS, which is Kaiba Corp's division, which started working on Duel Boxes (and eventually, Solid Vision) only after Yugi beat Kaiba at Duel Monsters for the first time. Therefore, Yusei may have not even be born in the 5D's period. Even though Duel Monsters doesn't exist to reflect humans' hearts, they'd eventually destroy each other either way. Or just the mere act of time travel would cause changes to the timeline ([[Butterfly of Doom]]), which is what seems to be going on with the movie with reality slowly falling apart.

** This is the essence of the [[Temporal Paradox]] -- yes, "changing the past" makes no sense because it would erase the conditions that caused you go to the past, and it applies to ''every'' use of the [[Temporal Paradox]] in [[Time Travel]] plots [[Time Travel Tense Trouble|as long as they have existed]]. It really does require the [[MST3K Mantra]] to enjoy such [[Time Travel]] stories -- but since it's not like we ''really'' have [[Time Travel]], we can't complain that "[[Time Travel]] does not work that way!" anyway.

** Maybe killing Pegasus and ending the production of Duel Monsters would erase him from the timeline because his timeline never happened, which would be worth it to Paradox as it would prevent his horrible timeline from occurring. In other words, sacrificing himself to keep the future from ever going awry.

 

* How exactly does Jaden know what Paradox is planning to do?

 

* When does Yugi's timeline take place? In the shot of Pegasus flying to the event during the duel, you can see that he has the Millenium Eye. Yet Bakura took it after Duelist Kingdom, which was before the Duel Disk Yugi was using was even made.

 

* Why does Paradox play Duel Monsters? You'd think that if he blames it for destroying the future, he wouldn't bother picking up the game and would skip to traveling back in time and killing Pegasus before he could even come up with the idea for the game using conventional means.

** More reasonable answer is {{spoiler|He came from the same group of survivors that have their future destroyed by Synchro monster, which explains(though does not explain why Paradox use Synchro monster in the first place). Also said group is a mess of [[Fridge Logic]] considering they use the same card that caused the [[Bad Future]] as their signature card}}

*** He seems to want to really mess with the protagonists by showing them all of the horrors that Duel Monsters can create. The Malefic/Sin monsters were explained in a guidebook as experiments done on their original forms, so Paradox is basically a rogue mad scientist who broke free from the rest (Aporia, Zone, Ect) to carry out revenge on his own, straying from the original plan. It was this kind of reckless planning to cause him to make so many foolish oversights, most likely.

**** Maybe he figured useing Monsters to destroy ''all'' monster was poetic justice? Just a theory.

*** When it comes to dueling who ever is in your way, I always figured that it's an inevitability in he Yu-Gi-Oh world because one of two things would happen; You could either duel, or you could battle it out with your monsters which would inevitably become a duel anyways (one person would summon, the other would block, someone would flip a trap, ect.)

 

* Why did Paradox try to use those dragons to kill Pegasus and a bunch of other people when he could get a gun and shoot Pegasus from the rooftop? Or better yet, travel back further and smother him with a pillow?

 

** I'm thinking Paradox went there because Jaden/Juudai was there. As for why Jaden/Juudai was there... [[Wild Mass Guessing|He... wanted to take a vacation... by himself... in a foreign country... because he wanted a change of scenery?]] I dunno.

** I just recently rewatched the dub version of the movie (don't know if it's the same in the sub, but I am positive it probably is) But Jaden says to Yusei that some of his friends' card went missing and he followed Paradox...which then makes me wonder, why the hell did Paradox not just jump through time after stealing all those cards, and instead ran to Venice? WTF?

** This troper assumed it was because Jaden, originally, at the real end of GX, went off to explore the world after graduating Duel Academy. Venice just happened to be where he was visiting at the time, and Paradox pinpointed his location there.

 

** Neos Knight needs Neos and ANY Warrior Type monster, the summon chant was just Jaden showing off.

 

 

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