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** Don't forget that usually, history is written by the winners. The vampires lost the war, and if the humans wanted to, they could just say "Let's never talk about it again." And thus, vampires are erased from existence.
* In the first episode of ''Yu-Gi-Oh GX'', why won't they let us see Yugi's eyes? It's already dead obvious to anyone who has seen even one episode of the original series that it's him, did they think we wouldn't notice? The same goes for Kaiba in later episodes. And why does Yugi look and sound exactly like Atem?
** Yugi looked like Atem to represent his aging and maturity. I don't know the rest.
** Attempt at being mysterious, maybe?
** We actually do get to see Kaiba's face during the Society of Light arc.
** I heard somewhere that they didn't show Yugi's eyes because the only "proper" hairstyle they could come up with to show his maturity was that of Atem's, and they didn't want to give fans the impression that Atem was still around and inhabiting Yugi's body full-time.
*** Well ''that'' plan certainly backfired. By hiding Yugi's eyes they hid the only part of his body which told us inexplicably which Yugi it was (okay there was his height and some slight hair modifications to take into account, but twenty years of aging and a stylist could've taken care of that). ''Now'' they've probably got people coming up with [[Fan Fiction]] explanations for why Atem is still hanging around twenty years later after he supposedly "died".
**** That would have happened no matter what.
**** True...
***** What bugs me about that meeting, wouldn't Jaden recognize the face of the guy who was the first person to hold the very title Jaden wants to claim?
****** He did, and he expressly stated that He got Winged Kuriboh from the king himself.
* Why do the people in this series [[Serious Business|take a children's card game so seriously]]?
** Because they're all idiots with nothing better to do.
** You would too, if you discover that some magical artifact can make the monsters in the cards be ''[[Hard Light|real]]'' (and not just holo images) and you could potentially conquer the world with them.
** That doesn't explain ''everybody else in the world'' though. Even with awesome holographic technology, I don't see Magic tournaments being broadcast over whole walls of outdoor screens, or champions being recognized on sight by casual players.
** No, but you ''do'' see duelling matches broadcasted on television and on extremely large screens in cities. Hell they turned a whole city into one giant battle-playground for this very purpose. The game is taken seriously because, at that time and place, it's popular and serious enough (with enough technology behind it) to be considered a sport and a form of entertainment.
** We take football, baseball, basketball, and most spectator sports just as seriously for no obviously clearer reasons. We have footballers earning ''millions'' of dollars a year and news articles about celebrities being dumped in jungles. It's not a children's card game in their world; it's a professional spectator sport. I guess that's what becomes of your world when virtual technology becomes that advanced.
** Yeah, but in one episode of GX (At least in the english dub) Chaz's brothers gives Duel Monsters equal importance alongside politics and business. Dueling as a professional spectator sport equivalent to football? I can work with that. But I don't really think Dan Marino was at any point equivalent to Bill Gates or the freaking President (Or most lesser businessmen or politicians)
*** One WMG says that GX takes place in the modern roman empire, with Dueling taking the place of the fights of the gladiatorial fights - something that really was that important.
*** You might be surprised by the kind of things that people think are as important as politics... And I guess also that the card game seems to require a lot of smarts to play really well... anyone with the brains to be a champion at duel monsters probably has other enviable talents.
*** Look at it this way: You're a politician. Your brother is a successful, well liked businessman and your other brother is a top tier YGOverse equivalent of a pro athlete. Or, you're a businessman and your first brother is a well liked politician and your other brother is a successful athlete equivalent. Combine that with the fact that Chazz's pro career would bring about plenty of extra money and you have the potential for excellent press, with the Princeton name as a synonym for quality, excellence, and strength.
*** GX adds a few more explanations. Duel Monsters attracts people with psychic powers, so being on top would get you a lot of respect from a powerful group. Its also shown that negotiations can be based on duels, so having the toughest one on staff would give you a big advantage. Basically, they want Chaz to be the muscle of the operation.
** But because it's a card game, it's also a franchise, which would just make it another part of the business world.
** I suspect it might have started with the obsession Kaiba has for the game; in the battle city arc a number of non-gamers are unaware of the event until they find the roads blocked, and they all tend to treat the entire thing as being rather silly. Judging from the size of the reservation list at Kaiba's theme park and given the exceptional rarity of most good cards, the fad might have first spread horizontally to other corporate executives and people of power as a status symbol, gaining interest in the general media due to the hologram arenas that turned it from a children's card game into a spectacular event. The only reason someone like Yugi has a comparatively rare and powerful deck is because his grandfather got into the game before it became so popular and demand had risen. Even though the duel disk system brought the holograms to the masses, duel monsters remains the sport of kings. By becoming the top duelist, not only would Chazz have become a major figure in entertainment, he would have had an inroad to plenty of important figures. Given the position duel monsters took for resolving conflicts and the propensity of players to make very large wagers, this would have allowed him to aid in his brothers schemes.
*** It being the "sport of kings" makes sense when you look at it in context of it's importance in ancient Egypt, where only the powerful and educated could weild their Kas around like nunchukas.
** Because the show takes place in an alternate-universe Korea where Duel Monsters takes the place of [[StarcraftStarCraft]].
** Here's how it went: Seto Kaiba is like a teatoatalling [[Iron Man|Tony Stark]] that enjoys playing games. One day, he picks up a new Collectible Card Game called Duel Monsters. He decides to enhance this game by using [[Hard Light]] to make holograms of the pictures on the cards pop out. Now [[Clash of the Titans]] is playing out on screen, and all other sports are boring by comparison.
** The point is that just like football (soccer) is the main sport of Spain, Brazil, Mexico, etc. to the point that all others are rarely talk about, Deal Monsters became that for Japan and later the whole world, it's not just a sport, it's ''the'' main sport, all other mayor sports have fallen into to a level of popularity equal to polo and cricket, it's still around, they show it on the sports channel but most people don't care that much. Imagine being a politician or businessman and that your brother is Tiger Woods, but in a world where Golf is 10 times bigger than any other sport.
** Meta WMG explanation attempt- With [[Deconstructor Fleet|all the deconstructions]] of usual Shonen and Gaming Anime tropes, especially with the order the series goes in, it gives the feel that ''GX'' takes place in a [[Crap Saccharine World]]. Showing just how much the world has come to revolve around what is, to [[The Everyman]], just a children's card game helps show just how far the world has fallen, to consider a card game of equal importance to politics and economics, and also helps to set up the deconstructions of the second and third season.
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** Because this applies to about 95% of female school uniforms in anime? Really, it is ''unexpected'' to see uniform skirts with a realistic length.
** They're probably based on the "sailor outfits" of Japanese boarding schools, which are stereotypically depicted in anime as being sexist and inappropriately small.
*** But in the manga, there were some American Duel Academy students visiting them to participate in a tourney, and the girl's uniform was just as small and revealing as Asuka's...
**** Maybe it was just [[Custom Uniform|how she wore the uniform]], and other uniforms from the American school had longer skirts?
** Because you've never seen a sailor uniform before. They are not stereotypically depicted, and not even Japanese. My great Grandmother used to wear one when she was a schoolgirl, because that was the trend back then. Japan is just the only country that still has them (to the best of my knowledge).
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*** Or he was off getting the Gem Beasts at that tournament. Or at some tournament in general, since he obviously did take part in them. Bet he was pissed he missed the school duel.
* Is is just me, or have the other main characters not been netdecked to hell and back (which they should have been), some of these are understandable (includeing cards that there are only 4 of), but seriously, what about everyone else.
** I think they dealt with that when Jaden dueled Dimitri; Duel Monsters is such [[Serious Business]], that it's considered in bad form to copy someone's deck card for card. As someone explained to me, having a better and closer familial and emotional connection to one's deck greatly increases your chances of drawing what you need at any given moment, in that world, so if you don't have the same "heart of the cards" that the person you're ripping off has for the deck, you can't duel that effectively with it.
* Why did Saiou lose his power to see the future after Judai freed him from the Light of Ruin if he had his powers long before DD and the Light of Ruin came into his life?
** I don't think he actually lost his powers, he just decided to stop using them.
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** He is promoted to Ra Yellow in Season 1 after beating Manjyome, but decides to stay in Slifer Red because that's where most of his friends are. After that, it seems to be a case of [[Fan of Underdog|supporting the underdog]].
** The real reason, however, is so that the series can have an underdog hero who is associated with Yugi's Egyptian God card.
* So...can we finally say with surety that Judai and Johan are a couple, now? I mean, now that Asuka has finally given up on her pursuit of O Godly E-Hero Duelist, and Sho has tempered his [[UST]] for Judai in light of his brother's recent brush with (near) death, Johan's the only one who has an obvious crush on him, a crush that's obviously reciprocated. I mean, look at their triangle duel with Fujiwara; Fujiwara tries to turn the two against each other, and they ''do'' get in a few licks on each other...then they laugh it off, like it was some kind of male bonding.
** After rewatching this and the mini-arc of Johan's possession by Yubel, I'd say Juudai and Johan are pretty borderline, if not the most overt [[Ho Yay]] in the series. Though given the whole [[Stalker with a Crush]] issue with Yubel, I fear it's really a threesome.
** I ''was'' disappointed that best-best friend role suddenly switched from Sho to Johan. It would have been unheard of for someone to take Joey's place in Yugi's story. I guess it was so Sho could realize his dream of stepping out of the sidekick role and stop living in the hero's shadow.
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*** I always figured that Amon and Ekou were the only ones to actually ''die'' in the other dimension, hence why they didn't come back. Ekou got eaten by Exodia, and then Amon got eaten by Yubel. Everyone else (even Hell Kaiser!) only got booted out into another dimension. The reason Ryo was presumed dead was that the instant he reappeared on Earth some passerby found him, saw that he wasn't really breathing, and managed to get him instantly into a hospital, hence why people didn't know Ryo was actually still alive for a while.
*** I heard (read in the Yu-Gi-Oh Wiki) that there was an official press release for episode 157 (At least for the US Dub) that indicated that (at least) Amon (Adrian) survived and was on the boat departing Duel Academy.
**** Yeah right, the US dub. If they can't shoehorn a line about a character who is obviously dead, surviving off screen, they hold a press conference about it.
* Why didn't Darkness pop up to save Fubuki when he 'died' in the third season? When Fubuki got caught by Daitoukuji and had all the shadow-whatever done to him, Darkness popped out and saved his life. So why, when he was about to be sacrificed in Brron's duel, didn't Darkness pop out and save his life?
** Because he didn't die. Even in the original Japanese version, everyone who "died" in Season 3 was really trapped in a Hell-like dimension, from which they were released as soon as Judai defeated Yubel and restored all dimensions to their original state(?). Fubuki may be able to use his [[Mask of Power]] to save himself from death, but not from being trapped another dimension.
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* And even then, why did he run off into a convenient desert with [[They Fight Crime|a demon hermaphrodite, a cat, and a dead schoolteacher]]? Doesn't Judai have a [[Cosmic Horror]] menacing the embodiments of his favorite card game to fight? Makes him seem sort of irresponsible, don't you think?
** The Light (and Darkness) can manifest anywhere, any time, in anyone. By going out to the world to help people with his powers (his stated goal) he is fighting both the Light of Ruin and the Darkness of Nihility. It's not one battle. It's an ongoing war.
** This troper [[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX/WMG|has his suspicions...]]
** He just defeated said [[Cosmic Horror]]. He had no one left to fight. The rest of the above circumstances are still ridiculous, though; I mean, how many deserts are there in Japan?
*** No, not Darkness, the Light of Destruction. He beat the bit that was in Saiou, but there definitely seems to be more of it.
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** The Red-Eyes deck is indeed Darkness' deck and not Fubuki's. (Although, Fubuki decided to use it later.) Also, keep in mind that during the duel, they were in the middle of a volcano with giant lava serpents around them, and Darkness spends all his time with fire behind him. Those are not ideal conditions to recognize someone's face.
* GX, Episode 119: In the dub version, during his duel with Viper, Jaden at one point is clearly seen discarding Ojama Yellow to power up Card Trooper. What the hell is Ojama Yellow doing in Jaden's deck? That's the equivalent of Yugi whipping out Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Did they change the artwork for the dub version? Is this part of the ongoing [[Mind Screw]] of Season 3? Some kind of in-joke to drive the fanboys crazy? I have no clue. If it's only in the dub version, that might explain a few things.
** It's a completely random dub edit that makes no sense. Of course, this creates an additional [[Dub -Induced Plot Hole]] on top of the obvious question of where Ojama Yellow came from; in the original, the card is Elemental Hero Necroshade. Recall that Necroshade's effect activates when it is in the Graveyard, and is used later in that episode. Now, if it was Ojama Yellow that was milled instead of Necroshade, then how on earth did Necroshade get there?
* GX: Obelisk Blue outranks Ra Yellow. ''What?'' Is this just Kaiba's influence, being all "My Egyptian God Card is better than yours, and because it's written on the front f this university, it must be true so there"? (Theoretically, Ra is most powerful, and practically, assuming you aren't the awakened reincarnation of someone with magic sight, Slifer is most powerful. Obelisk... Really only the most powerful if used in a game between novices.)
** Yes, that is purely because of Kaiba's ego, which shouldn't surprise anyone.
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* GX Season 3: Okay, so we have Sho, Manjoume (san-da!), Asuka, Kenzan, and Fubuki all acting COMPLETELY out of character due to being possessed by these magic orbs of Doubt, Anger, Sadness, Hate, and...whatever emo-tastic one Fubuki had. Having everyone minus Sho 'die' in front of him ''while cursing him out/blaming him for their deaths'' was a major push for Judai's mental breakdown, I know, and Sho telling him off to his face afterward didn't help. So why didn't anyone notice that these guys were acting so freaking ''out of character''? Even after they get back to Duel Academy, Sho's the only one to look back on what happened and wonder 'Why did I say all those things?', and even he doesn't seem to give it much thought. We get ''nothing'' from everyone else - and then they have the audacity to wonder why Judai doesn't want to spend time with them after he comes back.
** In Judai's case, he...probably didn't remember it too clearly, emotional breakdown and all. As for the others, they died right after. That tends to make you forget stuff/not want to dwell on it too much.
** Said "emo-tastic" emotion was anguish. Though I'm not correcting it because "emo-tastic" is hilarious.
*** I had thought that orby things were the cause of said out-of character-actions. That being said, [[Gavyn Sykes|I]] don't find it to be all the out of character, considering Judai was simply being Judai. When he acts impulsive and idiotic in most situations, it's harmless. In this case, it was far from harmless. They were blaming Judai for good reason - it actually was his fault.
**** Not exactly Judai did specifically tell them not to follow him, because it would be dangerous. They chose to follow him anyway, despite the warning that Judai gave them. Judai is not their caretaker and should not be expected to look after them every time they get into trouble, especially considering the situation they were in. So at the end of the day we still can't blame for what happened to Kenzan, Manjoume, Fubuki, and Asuka because Judai its not Judai's duty to protect them all the time, and Judai actually warned them against following him. Judai's friends were basically putting him down for not protecting them when it wasn't his duty, an action which was in a way addressed in season 3 where Judai stayed away from them so would be able to learn how to deal with their problems on their own.
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** I thought it being his destiny to do so was the whole point. Prophecy doesn't necessarily equal destiny.
* Where did the rumor that Amon was not [[Killed Off for Real]] come from? He's not shown returning with the others, he's not shown sailing back to his own school with the others, and Sho doesn't mention him in his [[Opening Narration]] to the first episode of Season 4.
** It was the Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki. The following line is still in his article right now: "The press release for episode 157 indicates that he survived and was on the boat departing Duel Academy. He presumably returned to East Academy". Where whoever edited that in got that information from, I have no idea. I looked around a bit more, and there's also [https://web.archive.org/web/20101229111753/http://www.janime.info/Genex/series157.html Janime's summary], which mentions Amon.
* The thing that bothers me? Episode 165. Manjoume was the King of North School in his first year. He was one of the keyholders who actually won against one of the Stars. He was the winner of the Genex tournament, and beat the entire school at least twice over in his second year - once to convert them all to see the Light, once to unconvert them all. His grades are awesome. He could be in Obelisk Blue if he wanted to, but he chose not to return - and by that point I'm pretty sure he had moved back there anyway. He is one of the top students in the school, if not THE top student. And yet you expect me to believe that out of the hundreds of sponsorship applications he sent out (judging by all of the letters), NONE of them accepted him? I could maybe see it if he'd only applied to two or three of the top sponsors in the world, but he's applied to lots of different places, and not one? Not even one of the somewhat lesser ones? I get that it was to set up that Manjoume had to become Edo's apprentice or whatever, but couldn't they have done that in a way that doesn't speak so low of his skills? Like, I don't know, an internship or the Japanese equivalent? (And don't get me started on the end of that episode's duel...)
** You try succeeding with two of the world's most powerful [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|CorruptCorporateExecutives]] who are also your brothers, holding a grudge for not letting them control your life.
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* Okay, can someone please clarify this for me. Are Jaden and Yubel a couple? Because I've gotten many differing responses from my friends that watch the show.
** In the Japanese version, the two admit their love for one another in their past lives. They really can't be a couple, since the now share the same body. But Yubel is placated and happy because she's now one with the Supreme King, which was ''exactly'' what she wanted in the first place.
*** What does sharing a body have to do with being a couple or not? Yubel is still a separate intelligence and a separate being. Juudai can manifest her solidly if he wants to (like he's done to Neos before) or she can do it herself (that's her power anyway) or they can go to one of the Duel Monster worlds and she can be solid there. Not to mention, Juudai also admitted he loved her in this life, which is the entire point of the fusion in the first place. He's keeping the vow he made of loving only her.
*** And in the English dub Yubel is female,(Both pre and post transformation) so even those that have a problem with Jesse&Jaden because it's Ho Yay can't say anything about them. Unfortunately they also changed her motives (far as I can tell) from love just to the sadistic, obsessive want to 'play' with Jaden, which is unfortunate because that made her even more psychopathic than in the original.
* Season 3, the entire school is transported to a dimension where their cards are real, and the duel has realworld effects on them. They then start all losing energy, through losing life points or from lack of food. There are 43 different cards that are about food, why did no-one just summon, say, Marshmallon, and just eat it? As for losing life points, why not just have a series of duels focused on both parties just recovering life points, before ending with a mutual surrender?
** Because any duels sucked away their energy. It wasn't losing life points, it was dueling in general that did it. And you're suggesting a form of cannibalism with that eating of Marshmallon. Those monsters are living, sentient creatures and would more than likely fight back against being made soup of the day. Even if a spell or trap created food, Yubel was still around and I'm quite sure she could've put a halt to that, since she needed them to be hungry and willing to do anything for food. It stirred up the darkness in their hearts and that was what *she* fed off of.
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