"The Reason You Suck" Speech/Video Games: Difference between revisions

** ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' has Sephiroth telling Cloud that he'll always keep coming back to Sephiroth, and Sephiroth will keep giving him a reason to fight every single time, for the sake of manipulating him. Cloud turns it around on Sephiroth, saying, "You're the one who won't let go!" but Sephiroth just ignores it and the two fight.

* In ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]'', Sorceress Edea gives one of these upon taking control of the country of Galbadia, doubling as a subverted [[New Era Speech]]:

** [[Completely Missing the Point|And everybody cheers]] (because of mind control, it is vaguely implied).

* Lightning gives one of these to {{spoiler|Orphan}} right before the final fight in ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]''.

** Revolver Ocelot delivers one on Fortune, she considered herself as "lady luck", and believes she had psychic powers that can deflect bullets, till Ocelot shot her. In truth it was all staged out by the Patriots, and she was really protected by a electro-magnetic gizmo, and was nothing but a pawn to their experiment. {{spoiler|But in her final moments she did display real psychic powers.}}

* [[Bioshock|Andrew Ryan]] lays it all out for you.

** Then, as if you ''didn't'' get [[This Loser Is You|the message]] the first time, {{spoiler|Frank Fontaine}} himself tells it to you even more.

* Archer of ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' is pretty good at these. He even got {{spoiler|Saber}} to give up on {{spoiler|her wish to appoint a new king in the good end of UBW and stay with Shirou/Tohsaka with two lines}} plus lots more for Shirou.

** Tohsaka Rin drops a pretty good one on Shinji during the Heaven's Feel route, mainly made awesome by how much of a <s> [[Jerkass]]</s> [[Complete Monster]] that Shinji is.

** Let's not forget that Phoenix joins in on the speech as well.

* In ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]] II: The Sith Lords,'' Kreia has already been established as a master of the [[Hannibal Lecture]] many times over the course of the story; however, it's not until Bao-Dur claims that Kreia is becoming a bad influence on the PC (during the Dark Side playthrough, naturally) that she unleashes her own [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]] in the form of a vitriolic but [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|awesome]] little rant:

** Kreia delivers one to the player in the Dark Side path - as a combination of [[Stupid Evil]] decisions and {{spoiler|world-ending hatred}} don't sit well with her.

*** If you choose the light side path, Kreia ends up giving one to the Jedi Masters instead after they try to {{spoiler|cut the exile off from the force}}.

** She also gives this to you even if you're Light Side, claiming that even after all the good you've done, all the lives you've saved and improved, the galaxy will still be a bad place. This is foreshadowed on Nar Shaddaa after you give a man five credits. She will show you the guy getting mugged, simply because what you did made him rise above his station, and be hated for it.

* In ''[[Tales of Rebirth]]'', Tytree Crowe delivers one to Saleh: "Someone like you who takes pleasure in trampling on the hearts of others will never ever understand! The human heart... the feelings that people have are stronger than anything else!! Remember that!!". However, Saleh runs on [[For the Evulz]] thus stuck with 'joy of trampling people's hearts', remaining irritating and never even beating the heroes or getting more powerful.

* From ''[[Portal (series)|Portal]]'':

** And from ''[[Portal 2]]''

** And later:

** She gives one to Wheatley, too, which serves to hit his [[Berserk Button]] at the worst possible moment.

* Dominate opponents with some of the characters in ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'', and they will deliver examples of these:

'''Sniper''': You're making this so easy. I'm actually getting worse. }}

* ''[[No More Heroes|No More Heroes 2]]'' features The Reason You Suck Song with the Rank #4 theme, insulting Travis at every opportunity. And it is [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|easily the best song in the soundtrack]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpRoTTaJBpY Here, listen to it.]

** Sylvia gives one to Travis right after he beats him. Travis gives one to Sylvia two or three times as well.

*** From the first game, Sylvia gives Travis another one right before the Rank 1 fight.

* ''[[Die Hard]] Vendetta'' features this in the last level, before the showdown with the [[Big Bad]], which also doubles as a [[Shout-Out]] to the classic movie ''[[On the Waterfront]]'':

* The defeat cutscene for the Forces of Chaos in ''[[Dawn of War]]''. Eliphias blames his subordinates for his defeat, a Daemon Prince offers one of these as he [[You Have Failed Me|disagrees.]]

* Intimidate speech options allow the player to deliver these in ''[[Mass Effect]]''.

** Paragon Shepard gives an awesome one to the annoying reporter, Al-Jilani, when she accuses him/her of not respecting the sacrifice s/he had humans make in the battle of the Citadel.

** One is delivered to SHEPARD (particularly Renegade Shepard) in the "Lair of the Shadow Broker" by {{spoiler|Tela Vasir}} as she's dying with a critically flawed and notably hollow [[Shut Up, Kirk]] speech calling out the hypocrisy of Shepard criticizing her when s/he's working with Cerberus, a terrorist organization. The flaw in her argument is that ''you don't work for Cerberus, you are temporarily working WITH them'', to take down a mutual foe that threatens millions. Most notably, ''YOU DON'T TAKE ORDERS FROM CERBERUS.'' This means that, unlike Shepard, Tela Vasir follows an order from the Shadow Broker without question, even when said order is "massacre hundreds of innocent people, murder and fellow Spectre, murder said Spectre's friend, and kill anyone who gets in your way without hesitation". She even takes an innocent bystander hostage, ''taunting her when she reveals that she's a mother, sarcastically telling her how her son would be so traumatized to grow up without her.'' It becomes rather jarring and obvious when the game purposefully leaves out any dialogue option to tell Vasir that ''you don't work for Cerberus at all, you're temporarily working WITH them to take down a dangerous enemy to everyone'', calling her out for the complete hypocrite and monster she is. Even ''Renegade'' Shepard can say this, as she/he never kills or harms anyone because anyone in Cerberus tells her to.

** Paragon Shepard also frequently does this in a subtle, yet highly effective way: he points out not why they suck, but how they could be awesome, but they're hesitating for petty reasons that would be more than made up for by being awesome. This often results in guilt-tripping or daring them to be good/trustworthy/heroic/mature, and thus, success. Renegade Shepard goes straight to this trope, or [[To the Pain]].

** Which is funny since it was all her fault and even if you return her accusations to her she refuses to listen.

* Playing as a Toreador in ''[[Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines]]'' and being just as petulant as the clan stereotype will result in a segmented but impressively derisive speech from Gary Golden.

(After he reveals himself)<br />

En Guard, Toreador! You vainglorious, narcissistic poser! How I loathe that determination of your kind to belie your true nature with Paris Fashions and pomp! You are a dead thing, a creature of the shadows... '''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|start acting like one]].''' <br />

You don't get it, do you? Sit and look pretty. Pretend you never died. Do some finger-painting. What a pathetic waste of blood... }}

* In ''[[Alpha Protocol]]'', if [[Player Character|Mike]] has chosen more suave stances than aggressive or professional ones, he can give [[The Dragon|Conrad]] [[Complete Monster|Marburg]] one. {{spoiler|It's one of three ways to kill him and the only way to do so in Rome.}}

'''Marburg''': You understand nothing Thorton. Just the way the U.S. trains all their agents.<br />

'''Mike''': Does Leland send you out for dry cleaning, too? Maybe shoot your chauffeur on the way? Chief of Security for Halbech - talk about a ''joke''. Yeah, I know all about Deus Vult and that abortion of an op in the Middle East. Poor Agent Marburg believed dead...maybe wishing he was dead. Boo. Fucking. Hoo. And what has you life been since then: {{spoiler|setting bombs for Halbech and murdering bystanders in museums.}} How fucked up and empty do you have to be to lower yourself to that level? ''[Mike continues, as Marburg begins to look more and more upset]'' You know what, Marburg, at the end of day - at least I'm not somebody's lapdog. Enjoy living off Leland's scraps. You don't even know what trust and loyalty are. Or does the fact that I didn't go that same route when I was abandoned really get under your skin, '''''[[First Name Ultimatum|Conrad]]'''''.<br />

* ''[[No One Lives Forever]]''. In a similar [[Not So Different]] scene, Cate Archer lets {{spoiler|the Baroness}} have it, using the fact they had the same background, but while Cate got over it (despite becoming a cat burglar), the Baroness just became a hateful, bitter woman who wanted nothing but revenge at any cost.

* In the bad ending of ''[[The Force Unleashed]]'', Palpatine gives this to Starkiller.

** Palpatine is the master of these. He gives another one in the non-canon Endor DLC.

* ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'': Anyone opposing Ramza in the [[Crapsack World]] that is Ivalice thinks Ramza is a deluded fool to stick to his [[Neutral Good]] ways, and thus every boss battle is a [[Hannibal Lecture]] in which Ramza and the villain trade both [[Shut UP, Hannibal]] and [[Shut Up, Kirk]] moments.

* The final chapter of ''[[Max Payne 2]]'' is an extended one of these to Max and Woden, from {{spoiler|Vladimir Lem}}.

* In ''[[Prototype (video game)|Prototype]]'', Cross gives a short one to Alex Mercer, who at this point is pretty much being led around on a leash (not that this changes much, mind you, but Alex is particularly naive at this stage).

* In Sword of the [[Berserk]]: Guts' Rage, Rita combines this with [[What the Hell, Hero?]] by delivering the following speech after she and Casca almost get killed by Balzac's men while he's not there.

* Pretty much the entirety of [[Evil Mentor]] and [[Big Bad]] of [[Sharin no Kuni]]'s Masaomi Houzuki's dialogue consists of verbally destroying everything somebody believes in or being a [[Reasonable Authority Figure]], doing a one man [[Good Cop, Bad Cop]] routine. [[Ubermensch]] that he is, he's really, really good at it.

* The [[A God Am I|final boss]] of ''[[Mega Man ZX]] Advent'' tells you "You're not a god. You aren't even a Mega Man. You're a mere mortal." Your response after beating him is, basically, "How's it feel to get your ass handed to you by a '''mere mortal.'''

* The [[Big Bad]] of [[Blaz Blue]], [[Faux Affably Evil|Hazama]]/[[Complete Monster|Terumi]] [[Troll|Yuuki]], seems to have a raging hard-on for this trope, as evidenced by the great enjoyment he gets from the very long and very brutal speeches he gives to the [[Anti-Hero]]... Heck, he doesn't limit this treatment to the [[Anti-Hero]] alone, either. To Hazama, ANYONE with convictions, ideologies and/or goals to deconstruct, ridicule, reconstruct and ridicule even worse, is fair game, be they emotional, misled teenagers; hawt, mature but desperate doctors; eldritch abominations or even children.

* The [[Big Bad]] of [[Planescape: Torment]] attempts to give a few. [[The Nameless One]], if he has sufficiently high mental stats, can hand out these speeches like candy when not playing the [[Warrior Therapist]]. The best is given right back to the [[Big Bad]].

* [[Mortal Kombat|Shao Kahn]] fires one of these at Raiden and at the Elder Gods in the prologue ({{spoiler|And final chapter}}) of ''[[Mortal Kombat 9]]''

'''Shao Kahn''': It is done. Your time has passed. Ages wasted in foolish resistance. Now is the dawn of MY rule! Yes...pray to the worms, Raiden. As your world ends... }}

** Liu Kang also turns on Raiden after he and Raiden leave the gang {{spoiler|to visit the Elder Gods, and everyone but Johnny and Sonya are killed by Sindel}} saying that everything that happened to them is his fault

* ''[[Batman: Arkham Asylum]]'' and it's sequel ''[[Batman: Arkham City]]'' every time you die and the final confrontation with Hugo Strange. YMMV but the way how Hugo basically {{spoiler|killed a good chunk of Gotham's crime rate, by killing a good majority of Arkham City's inmates}} makes you wonder whether that Batman had done the same, would he even be in Arkham City, let alone have had to go to Arkham Aslyum that night.

* The person you choose to confront in the penultimate mission of ''[[Saints Row: The Third|Saints Row the Third]]'' gives you one. Considering the [[Sadistic Choice]] involved, they're both [[Villains Never Lie|right]]. Interestingly, each speech is more directed towards the ''other'' choice.

'''Kia:''' Lin. Carlos. Aisha. Johnny... all you do is let your friends die. }}

* At the end of the second dungeon in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword]]'', {{spoiler|Impa}} gives one to Link when he didn't reach Zelda before the villains got her:

** After the end of the next dungeon, one of the [[Dialogue Tree]] options when saving {{spoiler|Impa}} calls back to the speech with [[Deadpan Snarker|"Am I late?"]]

* In ''[[Daily Life with Monster Girl|Monster Girl Quest]]'', Luka gives two of these, one in the first chapter of the game and one in the second.