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Spoilers ahead. You have been warned.
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That's sure what they ''look'' like.
* How is that a WMG? They explicitly say so in the DVD commentary.
== 1 symbolizes the pope ==
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This is what 9 was meant for, to create more of his kind, to reproduce. We see this symbolically in his phallic zipper(even more so in the first scene where it's pulled down), and in the fact that he is the one chosen by 7, the only female. At the end of the movie, they're left to be the 'father' and 'mother' of a new humanity. 3 and 4 survived because they're the only two who have the knowledge to master the stitchpunk creating techniques of their creator. They make it practically possible.
== The Fabrication Machine is an alternate universe [[Portal (
When we see the machine after it has been made, it looks a ''lot'' like the modules that make up GLaDOS. Or it could alternately be [[
* This may be just my lack of attention to detail, but GLaDOS has a glowing red eye?
** And a blue one, and a yellow one, and a green one (although they all fell off)
* Lets not forget that that particular AI hung from the ceiling and swung back and forth, and used machinegun-toting robots and gas to attack humans. Which one am I talking about?
== The Fabrication Machine has a very hungry soul...the soul of [[Crisis
* Or of [[
== Going with the above, the entire film is an AU of ''[[
The creation of robotics goes much earlier than planned. The chancellor was actually the CEO of Buy n Large. 9, 7, and 5 are the counterparts of Wall-E, EVE, and M-O. Also, ''[[The Wizard of Oz]]'' replaces ''[[Hello, Dolly!]]'' as the main character's superficial attachment to humanity.
== Each Puppet is a Significant Part of the Scientist's identity ==
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However, as the Scientist kept making puppets, he had less and less of himself to give. Six, the imagination of every good inventor, can barely interact with others. Seven embodies aspects that the Scientist didn't even know he had - namely, Female and Badass. And Eight is, as Terry Pratchett would put it, the part of the brain that's still a monkey - subservient, strong, focusing on primal urges. That's why the Scientist waited a long time before making Nine - he wanted to make one more puppet that would be worth it, that he could give everything to. And thus, Nine is also the one thing that the Scientist always wanted to be, but never thought he could - a Hero.
* Alternatively, the personalities are related to whatever part of the Scientist own personality was most prominent at a time. One is who he was after realizing just what had been done with his Machine: a bitter man, who feels old and used, who thinks that he could have done a lot better. This is why he is such a stubborn leader, and so intent on forgetting all that came before.
:Based on their designs, I'd say a long time passed between One and Two. Two represents that childlike curiosity that he was re-experiencing in the creating of the Stitchpunks. Two wants to know and to build, but doesn't remember that curiosity killed the cat. Then came Three and Four,
▲Based on their designs, I'd say a long time passed between One and Two. Two represents that childlike curiosity that he was re-experiencing in the creating of the Stitchpunks. Two wants to know and to build, but doesn't remember that curiosity killed the cat. Then came Three and Four,
== 9 is a prequel to ''[[WALL-E]]'' ==
The rainstorms at the end of the film carried over to the storms seen in ''WALL-E'', and allowed the plant to grow.
== The apocalyptic world is not the entire world - only America. ==
Meanwhile, the rest of the world is wondering why their American friends haven't called in the last few months.
* Actually, untrue. The Scientist's facebook page states that entire nations have crumbled and the machines can "travel across expansive oceans." It is very likely that the majority of the planet, or at least a continent or two, has been affected.
** Perhaps other nations have their own forms of carrying on the human legacy, maybe even their own set of stitchpunks. [[Copy Cat Sue|Of course, this leads way to many a
*** Wait, what? Wasn't the original film in England? The coins on 1's Hat and the one laid over 2's eyes didn't look like any currency this
*** Future money. Half of ''today's'' currency doesn't look like what we grew up with.
**** Or alternate universe money. [[Word of God]] is that this is a world where the Industrial Revolution never ended, so maybe the historical cultural differences led to different decisions at the mint.
**** Which means two things considering the tank. Either this is in Europe, in general, or it is so different from out reality it is moot to call it America.
* But the movie wasn't even set in America in the first place. It's clearly a post [[WW 1]] German town the movie takes place in.
* I've got to agree that it's in Germany. You can clearly see 'VORSICHT' ('careful') on a sign outside the tunnel.
== The war between men and machines ended with either side killing each other off. ==
The scientist was the last man alive during the war, and was possibly spared by the machines due to him being a sort of "father" figure according to the Fabrication Machine. Once the scientist got close enough to it, he tore out the talisman and took it back to his lab to finish creating the 9- being the last one alive he wanted to ensure that humanity's legacy wouldn't die with him.
== 7, [[The Smurfette Principle|the only girl in the stitchpunk team]], is the feminine part of the scientist's soul ==
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** 9's voicebox came from a babydoll. The fact that he sounds like a boy and can say things besides "Mama" and "Feed me" means that voiceboxes only give the dolls the power to speak, and don't actually affect what they sound like. Also, 2 seems surprised that 9 can't speak at first, which implies that the other dolls had their voices built-in. The Scientist probably died before 9 was finished.
** With how closely the voicebox is attached to the talisman cord plug thingy, that can't be far off.
*** But 7 also wears earrings and seems generally motherly towards 3 and 4. That, and her voice, make her seem genuinely female. In fact, since it's implied that she and 1, the authoritarian, had a fallout, this troper was surprised it wasn't at least implied that 1 might have represented the mysogynist part of the scientist's mind mentioned above.
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* [[User:R Taco|This troper]] actually thought this might be the case around the part where 5 got drained.
** That occurred to me too, but look again at the flashback. The socket is where the talisman was placed to animate it in the first place. It's a lot fancier than his later setup for obvious reasons.
* Why else would the Machine HAVE an input for the Talisman?
** "[[The
* Maybe the scientist[[Xanatos Gamit|planned out a win/win situation]] - if the fabricator absorbed the stitchpunks, it would gain a soul and, in time, rebuild civilization. Or, if the stitchpunks won, they would bring back life to the planet, eventually using the new reserves of soul energy to reproduce.
* This is very well possible. [[Word of God|Shane Acker has said]] in [https://web.archive.org/web/20170714121031/http://www.fpsmagazine.com/feature/050929acker-5.php an interview] that the villain has motivation, and for that the audience would feel just as much sympathy for him as the protagonist.
== There will be a [[My Immortal]] like fanfic staring a [[Original Character]] [[Parody Sue]] named "0". ==
<s>You see, who could resist? Hell, if any parody fic writers are reading this, the guess just might even come true.</s>
U C, 0 (clled 0 becuz 0 iz moar goffik thin 10) has da powars 2 brng teh kiled stich punks beck 2 liv (cuz {{spoiler|1, 2, 5, 6 n' 8 (LOL giddit leik [[Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy]]) dieing}} is rully ghey), and they haff 2 fit with da stich punk kiling mashene!
** [[Memetic Mutation|IM IN UR FILM, WRITIN]] [[Parody Sue|PARODY SUEZ]]
== translation ==
You see, 0 (called 0 because 0 is more gothic than 10) has the powers to bring the killed stitchpunks back to life (because {{spoiler|1, 2, 5, 6 n' 8 (Ha! Get it? Like ''[[
* Whereas one could imagine HP's stereotypically "Gothic" fanbase, one could imagine the 9 fandom having some kind of stereotypical steam/cyberpunk fanbase (I wouldn't know for sure in either case), using gratuitous "refined" and at times overly complex language, which could be parodied just the same.
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It was just a piece of machinery designed to fullfil a purpose: make weapons. When the Scientist (who actually knew how the thing worked) was removed from supervising its progress, the idiots assigned to it were instructed by the Chancellor to either give it an upgrade or turn its directive more toward war - and in doing so they accidently altered the programming so that [[Omnicidal Maniac|it considered all living things a target]]. Therefore, it set about efficiently fullfilling its task. The Scientist knew to hide from it, because if it had found him, it wouldn't have "recognized him" or shown him any special mercy as a father.
Knowing everything was going to die, the Scientist created the stitchpunks to continue the culture and emotions of humanity once the poison gas hit. 1, 7, and 8 were supposed to protect group until the last of the machines had stopped functioning, 3 and 4 were supposed to retain the culture and knowledge necessary to restart a civilization, and 2 and 5 were supposed to physically build that civilization. 9, having a little of each in him, was supposed to be a general helper. Since he was the last created, he was entrusted with the talisman in case any of the other stitchpunks had been already caught and had their souls sucked out. It was never intended to be put BACK into the Fabrication Machine once the machine had gone offline. Once the stitchpunks had the beginnings of civilization preserved, they would live out their lives and eventually run down. Their life force would return to the earth via the soil/water/whatever covered their bodies when they ran down, and restart evolution with cells and such. Eventually, something would evolve that was intelligent enough to understand the preserved scraps of humanity, and civilization would get a little jump-start and continue from there.
== 3 and 4 share a memory bank. ==
3 is primarily Input, 4 is primarily Output (the order in which they were made was probably because it might be possible for someone to bring the information out of a storage for which no output has been made, but you can't extract information that isn't there in the first place. Which is which in the guess was based on information given in the movie, not based on this idea.) They may be [[Single
== The Scientist's Legacy contained, not just a placard that said "hope", but a hermetic seal. ==
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# is Exploration.
# is Religion.
# is The Military.
# is Law Enforcement.
# is humanity itself, the element that makes the others more than just institutions.
== The world of 9 is the same one described in the song "99 Red Balloons". ==
You and I in a little toy shop
buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
'Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base, bugs in the software
Flash the message, "Something's out there"
Floating in the summer sky
99 red balloons go by.
99 red balloons floating in the summer sky
Panic bells, it's red alert
There's something here from somewhere else
The war machine springs to life
Opens up one eager eye
Focusing it on the sky
Where 99 red balloons go by.
99 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet
To worry, worry, super-scurry
Call the troops out in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it boys, this is war
The president is on the line
As 99 red balloons go by.
99 Knights of the air
ride super-high-tech jet fighters
Everyone's a Superhero
Everyone's a Captain Kirk
With orders to identify
To clarify and classify
Scramble in the summer sky
As 99 red balloons go by.
99 dreams I have had
In every one a red balloon
It's all over and I'm standin' pretty
In this dust that was a city
If I could find a
Just to prove the world was here...
And here is a red balloon
I think of you and let it go
== 9 is a prequel to Bionicle ==.
The surviving sackdolls eventually grew in power, upgraded their forms, and became the Great Beings. The human souls became protodermis, and the Matoran/Agori are more advanced versions of the stitchpunk design.
* You know what? This actually makes sense!
== There are more Stitchpunks out there, alive. ==
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== The stitchpunks have very short lifespans. ==
The film is clearly set ''very'' soon after the war ended: there's no rust on any of the weapons and human bodies haven't started decomposing yet. But, the stitchpunks have been around long enough for 7 to have gotten sick of 1's authority and left and for 2 to be forced out because he was 'too old'. Since Terry Pratchett influences are all over the film it's safe enough (in WMG) to assume that there could be the whole 'short lived things see time go slower' thing going on. Thus, the stitchpunks only live for a couple of years each at the most.
* At least the first five (and probably the first seven or even all eight) were around while the humans were still warring. I did always assume that the stitchpunks observed time differently from humans, but that would more likely be because they didn't have fifteen or twenty years to grow to maturity and were sprung fully formed from the Paracelsus Machine itself. To them as of two years of age for the older ones, two years is a lifetime, and half a year difference in age is a quarter of a lifetime dofference. Their perception of time being different the way a six-year-old's perception is different from a 12-year-old, rather than how a mayfly would percieve time differently from [[We Are
* Actually, if the stitchpunks properly maintained their systems, they might have the capability to live a very long time, perhaps over a thousand years.
* Plus, nothing is decomposing because all of the organisms that would usually break stuff down got killed with the poison gas. So it could have been a fairly long time between when, say, 8 was made & when 9 was made. They don't age, so it would be hard to tell.
* [[Jossed]]: [[Word of God]] says the film takes place about fifty years after the war. Judging by how limber and youthful many of them still are, it seems stitchpunks can go for at ''least'' the same amount of time as humans, if not even longer.
== ''9'' takes place in a German-occupied European country rather than Germany itself. ==
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== 9 and [[WALL-E]] take place in the same universe, a few centuries apart. ==
Aside from the fact that 9 is animated mostly in drab colors and Wall-E is in Pixar technocolor, the situation on Earth in these two films looks ''very'' similar.
* The Chancellor and the B&L CEO produced very similar news blurbs, though those belonging to the former are a more militeristic.
* Though Wall-E states that the humans left earth because they had polluted it, the CEO does put on a gas mask just before leaving during the secret message--the life on earth in 9 was also killed with gas.
* And, most damningly, [https://web.archive.org/web/20111207061116/http://scienceblogs.com/sciencepunk/upload/2009/06/first_look_at_the_machines_of/fabmachine_tex_head_s.png the Fab machine] and [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xdN0QQwsP1A/SzBP7k7WWaI/AAAAAAAAEW0/NdxMipWomn8/s400/340023-walle_auto_large.png AUTO] look a ''hell'' of a lot alike, perhaps implying that they both have their genesis in the same technology. From what we've seen of B&L's mass-producing business standards, something like the Fabrication Machine would probably be immensely valuable.
* If B&L is like [[Wal Mart]] and produces the bulk of its products in less developed nations, that might help to explain the [[Schizo
== 1 was trying to set fire to the factory too soon to [[Someone Has to Die|deliberately kill 9 and 7]]. ==
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* [[The Messiah|9]]s are diplomatic, soft-spoken, patient, easygoing, and at least try to play the role of [[The Heart]].
There are also bonuses in predicted dynamics between types - 1s and 2s may be at odds with each other as 1s tend to be rigid and harsh where 2s are decidedly not; 5s and 2s can make for the best of friends as 5s tend to be considered as uncomfortable opening up to others; 7s and 9s may be endeared to each other on basis that both are generally positive and balance each other with the fact that [[Action Girl|7]]s are straightforward and go-getters while [[Non
The stitchpunks are all the same person, but anyone has some mix of traits associated with each type. That 1, 2, and 9 were the most influential members of the group could suggest that the Scientist's type and wing were out of those three. Looking at what is actually known about him, he was once a toymaker (putting smiles on kids' faces - something a 2 or 9 might enjoy?), obviously created the [[Gadgeteer Genius|B.R.A.I.N.]] for the sake of technological advancement and enriching humanity (1?), and was so mortified at the war that he blamed himself for it and killed himself to split his soul into the stitchpunks to atone, keep life going, and make whatever amends possible (any of the three?).
== 9 is a grown-up Sackboy from ''[[
[https://web.archive.org/web/20100612061347/http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/09/why-shane-ackers-9-is-littlebigplanet-the-movie/ This article by Majiesto on ps3attitude.com] explains similarities between ''9'' and ''LBP'' that go deeper than the skin and the zipper. "Throughout the film, the stitchpunks are hounded by a cat-like beast with a skull for a head, a skull that looks very similar to that of Skulldozer from the Wedding level. [...] If you watch the trailer [of ''9''] closely, you can see bits and pieces of what we would call platforming. You’ll see 9 duck, jump, and scurry over moving conveyor belts all the while machinery is crashing down upon him. [...] The stitchpunks are creative little creatures, using whatever stuff they have lying around to create inventions, weapons, and entire simple machines. They can turn nothing into something, just as we do with 'My Moon.'"
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