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A kitten for you!

For your hard work and dedication to ATT!

GethN7 (talk) 02:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess... <grin> -- Looney Toons (talk) 04:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Cleaning up trope/work links, have my bot working on it now

I noticed you've been converting trope to work templates where appropriate by hand, just wanted to let you know I have my bot working on that now to help you out. GethN7 (talk) 02:59, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

That's good to hear. It's not like I've been aiming to do this, though -- I'm really just doing a random wikiwalk and fixing anything that I happen to spot. -- Looney Toons (talk) 04:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
I know, and it's appreciated. However, I just discovered the categories (and some of their pages) I need to parse to fix everything are a horrible mess, so I plan to run a big bot job tomorrow to fix as much as I can find, so please refrain from fixing stuff randomly until I managed to get it all sorted out. It should take too long to fix everything (I estimate about a day or so if I can get everything compiled tonight), so I beg your indulgence for about that long. GethN7 (talk) 05:04, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Okay, will do. -- Looney Toons (talk) 13:52, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
My bot has already handled most of the subpages, should be done getting a huge majority of the work pages by the end of today. I might have screwed up a few trope pages due to them sharing certain categories with work pages, but it should only be a couple dozen pages at worst and a quick revert/edit should fix the templates. GethN7 (talk) 20:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Finished. I saved a log of all the pages that got changed and am planning on running one last bot in a day or two to fix the pages that should not have been marked with the work template, only this time I'm using a text files with the selected pages that need fixed since the categories method managed to bollix up several dozen pages, though the good news is that a massive chunk of the work pages have been fixed as well. GethN7 (talk) 20:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
That's great to hear. I'll stay away from any furhter cleanup until you say things are done. -- Looney Toons (talk) 20:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
My bot is done. GethN7 (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
We still have things it missed. I came across five or six, including The Ten Commandments, just in the last half hour or so. Looney Toons (talk) 19:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm aware. The work categories are so spread out and many are so intertwined with trope pages we'll probably have to fix the rest by hand. GethN7 (talk) 19:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
No prob. I'll start fixing them again, then. Looney Toons (talk) 19:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Double Redirects

I noticed a few of the page move you created resulted in double redirects (a redirect that redirects to another redirect). These can be easily fixed with a PHP script, so don't worry about undoing them, but if you want to avoid making more in the future, enable the "Highlight Redirects" gadget in your user preferences. This will mark all links that are redirects with a pink overlay, and if you click preview before creating a redirect with that gadget enabled and the preview shows your new link is also a redirect, that's a double redirect. GethN7 (talk) 19:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I knew a couple of my changes would be causing them, but was planning on using the Double Redirects page to fix them. However, it doesn't appear to refresh often (can we change that?), so I had resigned myself to waiting until it did to correct the problems. Looney Toons (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Sadly, no. Due to the amount of information we have on our database, the Orain staff activated "Miser Mode", which keep our database from crapping out when running most special pages and puts a cap on the refresh periods to avoid server slowdown. However, as I said, all the double redirects can be easily resolved by my asking the Orain staff to run a very simple PHP script that will automatically clean up any double redirects. GethN7 (talk) 19:58, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Cool. Looney Toons (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Plans to add all ATT specific templates to their own category and some other fixes

I'm keeping track of all RCs, so don't worry about adding any of this yourself, but I'll be adding all ATT specific templates to their own category so we can better keep track of them, and I'll also be implementing a preloaded page template system for new pages as well.

I also have moved the spoiler code to being a toggable gadget in user preferences, as mentioned on the DW forums. Let me know if you have any issues with it not mentioned on the forums.

GethN7 (talk) 23:46, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I can add your new template with a bot

I can mass add that creator template with a bot to save you some trouble if you want. GethN7 (talk) 00:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Got your message. When we've decided what we're going to do, either Gethbot or Dai-Guard can mass add that template if you need it. GethN7 (talk) 00:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Previous page history was archived for backup purposes at User talk:Looney Toons/LQT Archive 1 on 2016-05-31.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I'm just letting ya know that I didn't link Bulbapedia when I added "The Wiki Rule" part to the Pokemon's trivia section, instead I link other wikis that are worthy. It's because I found out long ago, that BulbaGarden is not safe for kids, my sources are an outdated Encyclopedia Dramatica page that's still relevant to this day and a Mister Metokur vid:

Don't forget to tell the other higher ups, if they ask.

Reply to "Concerning Pokemon Wikis"

I sent another message to GethN7 two days ago.

Ecclytennysmithylove (talkcontribs)

It's very important that he needs to see this message, so please inform him.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Got it.

RabidTanker (talkcontribs)

Does it counts as an Armor-Piercing Attack if it ignores half of an enemy's defense stat? Because Fire Emblem has an recurring skill that does this.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I'd say yes. That wiki page says it bypasses some of defense and resistance, and the latter would be literal armor-piercing. Also we and TVT frequently use "armor-piercing" to mean bypassing any kind of defense, not just armor, as in Armor-Piercing Slap and Armor-Piercing Question. The trope is a bit more literal about what's getting pierced, but I think the Fire Emblem skill works just fine.

RabidTanker (talkcontribs)


GethN7 (talkcontribs)
Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Following up on this, it appears this guy is entirely fictional.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

There's this message about checking if my browser works? How do I run the test or do I ignore it, I don't know if my computer is compatible or if it is good to go. It says "Please visit Qualys SSL Browser Checker."

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

It appears to be a global notice from the management of Miraheze; it's not from ATT. Given that they run the wiki farm that hosts us, it's probably a good idea to follow their suggestions. As for how to run the test, I would suggest starting here.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

All I got is "Agent has good protocol support", "Logjam Vulnerability: Your agent is not vulnerable", "Mixed Content Handling: Passive Active." I don't know what to click or what. I don't know what to do with the "Upgrade Insecure Requests request header." How do I know if I'm good to go?

Update: I have Microsoft Edge as my fail safe (Besides having a Wikia account), if me updating Chrone and Mozilla doesn't work. I know where to go, if I find out that after October 1 that I can't log in here, I'll log in over there.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Honestly, Jade, I don't know what to tell you. This isn't All The Tropes. I am no more informed on this than you are. Go to and maybe ask the stewards? I don't know. It does sound like the browser you tested is in good shape.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I already sent them a question on Twitter if I'm good to go, good thing I have back ups (Though I think nothing will happen), but I'm going to be miff if it turns out that I have to transfer my edits somehow to the wikia version.

I wonder how long will they take to respond though.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I have a few questions about this page: File:Tenkoguardians.png I uploaded a new photo for it, so we won't get in trouble. But I don't know where to put the fair use and such, it's not what I'm used to seeing.

Second question, I am cleaning up the WW2 page a bit (i.e. linking to proper pages and such), is "Tenko and the Guardians" set during WW2 or that's a different Tenko?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

First: You edit the page, and replace {{TVT-CC-BY-SA-image}} with {{fairuse}}.

Second: I haven't a clue. I don't know a thing about the show. Have you tried consulting Wikipedia?

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Thanks, Looney.

Hey, Is Forgettable Character Good to Go

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Ridiculous Cute Critter Question

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)
Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Jade, you don't need my approval for a change like that. We're a wiki, with user-created content. If the userbase doesn't like the changes, they'll be changed back or into something else. For the most part, we admins do not have final say.

Now on the subject of copyright, yeah, we have final say, but I have no idea what copyright issue you think you see. All our initial content -- including the image -- was acquired before TVT changed their license terms, and as such we can use it. There is no legal need to get rid of that image. If you have a better image, cool. But there's nothing that says we must change the image.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

That's why I'm asking you both, since I don't want to undo someone's work or get rid of an already safe image.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Unless told otherwise, assume all our images imported from TVT at the time of the fork are safe. The only exceptions might be the very, very few that have a comment in the page source that says something like "permission to use granted by thus-and-so at", in which case that permission might only be granted to TV Tropes and not by extension to us. But there are vanishingly few of these images, and most have already been replaced or commented out of visibility.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I'll wait until SelfCloak says something. So, how do I know when an image is ONLY granted to TVT?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You contact the artist, if there is sufficient information in the artwork or as comments within the page source to identify and reach them.

19SnyderWan97 (talkcontribs)

I just wanted to make sure you got my message. I understand that I have not been correctly marking my images and would like to avoid that in the future.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Because of personal reasons I haven't been on the wiki all weekend. This is my first chance to respond to you. There also seems to be a malfunction in the alert system, and I didn't receive direct alerts that you had replied to me, and had to discover them through the Recent Changes page.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

As mentioned in the "Licensing" topic, we're having trouble with notifications. Test: @Looney Toons