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{{trope}}
{{quote|"[[Stiff Upper Lip|I fear that]] all we have done is to [[Trope Namer|awaken a sleeping giant]] and [[This Means War|fill him with]] [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|a terrible resolve]]."
|[[Beam Me Up, Scotty|Attributed to]] '''Naval Marshal General Isoroku Yamamoto''', after the attack on [[World War II|Pearl Harbor]]}}
Everyone knows about the [[Big Good]] and the [[Big Bad]], but what about the Even Bigger Neutral?
In most conflicts, there are a variety of neutral parties. From the [[Precursors]] to the [[Retired Badass]] to the [[King in
That is, unless someone does something [[Idiot Ball|stupid]] or [[Moral Event Horizon|evil]] enough to repulse them utterly. Whether it was the heroes or the villains, anyone who steps over some inexcusable line will invite their wrath, and this isn't the regular [[Neutral No Longer]] give-the-other-side-some-reinforcements wrath ... this is "[[Curb Stomp Battle|we have an army of Cthulhu clones]]" wrath. Expect an [[Oh Crap]] taken [[Up to Eleven]] from the receiving end; if and when the former neutrals start whipping out the [[Fantastic Nuke|doomsday weapons.]] On the other hand, for the beleaguered friends of that power, this is a moment of celebration as they gain a powerful ally and they will [[You Are Not Alone|fight alone no more]].
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A [[Sub-Trope]] of [[Neutral No Longer]] and related to [[Heroic Neutral]]. May serve as a [[Deus Ex Machina]] and/or [[Game Breaker]]. Compare [[Default to Good]]. If the entity is an individual, then they won the [[Superpower Lottery]].
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== Anime & Manga ==
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* In ''[[Gundam Seed Destiny]]'', Durandal attempts to kill the retired Kira Yamato and Lacus Clyne so they don't get in the way of his plans. This alerts them to his evil intentions several months before anyone else on earth suspected a thing, causing them to take the Freedom, Archangel and Eternal out of storage, which all become instrumental in his defeat.
** As a matter of fact, near the end of the series Kira himself says "If not for that attack, we probably would have gone along with anything Durandal wanted."
* The Flying Pussyfoot arc of ''[[Baccano
== Comic Books ==
* In the 1960s ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]'' comics, this happened to Magneto when he tried to recruit the Stranger via intimidation.
* In the original [[Crisis
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* Moloch from ''[[
* In ''[[Renegade (
* While the governement was favorable to help the League of Non-Aligned Worlds, the Earth Alliance in ''[[
== Film ==
* [[Godzilla]], frequently (and literally).
* The United States as per the final voice over of the trope quote in ''[[Tora! Tora! Tora!]]''. Maybe Yamamoto never said it - but he should have.
== Literature ==
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* The Ents from ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' [[Curb Stomp Battle]] Saruman's fortress of Isengard after he [[Green Aesop|cuts down their forest to burn it for fuel]].
** Though the Ents weren't really neutral; they were pretty much Lethargic Good. The only thing keeping them from acting is the fact that, being essentially tree-people, they don't do much of ''anything'' without a whole lot of convincing.
** In Peter Jackson's [[The Lord of the Rings (
* ''[[Rowan of Rin|Rowan And The Zebak]]'' does this with a dragon.
* Played straight in ''[[The Dark Is Rising]]'' in the novel ''Greenwitch'', in which the titular Greenwitch is part of the Wild Magic, which is neutral between the Light and the Dark. She is not powerful enough to present a direct threat to either faction on her own (although Tethys is), but she does end up in a situation where she has something both sides desperately need and can't take without her consent.
* This is the premise of the next few ''[[
* [[The Culture]], from the [[Iain
** Someone phrased it as "The first rule of dealing with The Culture is that you do not fuck with The Culture. The ''second'' rule of dealing with The Culture is that you do '''not''' fuck with The Culture. The last rule is that ''you don't fuck with The [[Oh My Gods|godsdamned]] Culture!''"
* Another [[Iain
* The protagonist becomes the ultimate Even Bigger Neutral by the Third (and last) Part of ''[[Tranquilium]]''. He has some very long-term plans in operation, but mostly he just [[Orcus
* David Weber's ''[[Out of the Dark]]'': when the alien invaders are about to make the human race extinct, someone on Earth {{spoiler|(Count Dracula)}} finally decides to come out of his self-imposed exile and show them what ''real'' monsters can do.
* By introducing late 20th century technology and ideas in early 17th century Europe the time traveling americans of [[1632]] have awoken the interest of the Ottoman Empire: the mightiest military power of its time, ruled by a Sultan named [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Murad the Mad]], who is, according [[The Spymaster]] Francisco Nasi, [[Oh Crap|as intelligent as he is insane and bloodthirsty]].
* Used in ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' books to explain why the various supernatural factions upkeep [[The Masquerade]]: they fear what would happen if mortal humanity became aware of what else was out there. Bringing mortal authority around into a supernatural argument is compared to the [[Godzilla Threshold|nuclear option]].
* The epilogue of [[James H. Schmitz]]'s ''The Demon Breed'' shows an alien Council which commands a significant fleet assessing the events of the story and decreeing that not only will they '''not''' join a proposed attack on humanity's [[Federation of the Hub]], but they'll act against any '''other''' nonhumans who attack the Federation. Their reasoning is that humanity as a whole is the Sleeping Giant. The Federation government worries about the possibility of humans, who are currently inclined to live and let live, [[Humans Are Warriors|getting into the habit of conquering aliens in retaliation if they're attacked too often]]. The Council decides that this is a wise concern which they share.
== Video Games ==
* Narrowly averted in the first ''[[Command
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** Looking at Nod's arsenal, and some information of the Official Strategy guide, it's clear that Kane doesn't attack the US simply because he gets a lot of his weapons from US arms dealers. (Nod's units include the M2 Bradley, the Chenowth Desert Patrol Vehicle, the M-110 artillery, and even the Apache helicopter)
** Killian Qatar in ''Tiberian Wars'' disapproved of Nod's attack on GDI Blue Zones precisely for this reason. She even paraphrases the trope line. And she was correct.
*** Might be a subversion, however, as Kane knew it as well but was counting on a massive GDI counterattack to fulfill his master plan.
* In [[
** Along that same line, in [[Final Fantasy VII
* Yukari Yakumo of ''[[
** Gensokyo has too many Sleeping Giants for its own good. It's strongly implied that shall Reimu ''ever'' fail in protecting the border ([[Boring Invincible Hero|which is saying a lot]]), the dragon of Gensokyo will swoop down to deal with whatever problem there is. And it's not your standard fire-breathing Western fantasy dragon either: this dragon, when he/she/it appeared once in the past, fill the entire sky with his/her/its body. His/her/its presence alone cause extreme rain, enough to flood the entire Gensokyo. The dragon might be ''Gensokyo itself''.
** Giants that have awakened are: [[Ninja Maid|Sakuya]] in ''Perfect Cherry Blossom''; [[Reality Warper|Yukari]], [[Our Vampires Are Different|Remilia]] and [[Cute Ghost Girl|Yuyuko]] in ''Imperishable Night''; [[Creepy Doll|Medicine]] and [[Ax Crazy|Yuuka]] in ''Phantasmagoria of Flower View''. Those people normally don't overstep their domain, but you can't be so sure when [[Spring Is Late]]/[[Bad Moon Rising]]/[[Death Takes a Holiday]]...
* Begnion in ''[[Fire Emblem Tellius
** The Dragons count for the sequel Radiant Dawn as well.
* Sonic The Hedgehog: ''[[Sonic Unleashed]]'' - Despite being a horrifying [[Eldritch Abomination]] depicted nearly destroying the earth each millenia since time began, Dark Gaia is not so much evil as simply a force of nature (shown by the fact that whenever it tried to destroy the world upon awakening, it would be rebuilt by its other half, Light Gaia, and start the process all over again). It wasn't until Eggman tried to control the monster's power by firing his beam from space and woke Dark Gaia prematurely that he really put himself and the entire fate of the world in deep shit. Only Sonic and a formerly amnesiac Light Gaia make everything right again.
* Both ''[[Galactic Civilizations]]'' and ''[[Mass Effect]]'' have a strange version of this. In both series, the humans are the galactic newcomers with little military to speak of, but our tenacity, bravery and the speed of build-up from token military into a powerhouse
** In ''Gal Civ'', the Drengin are terrified because humans operate in an entirely different method than they expect as far as militaries are concerned. They have a large, standing military fleet. Humans had no fleet at all beyond trade and exploration vessels, until another species attacked them... at which point the humans rapidly built a fleet large enough to give the Drengin nightmares, completely slaughtered the offending race (As in total genocide; that race ''no longer exists'')... and promptly decommissioned and took apart all of it's military fleet, returning to having no military at all. The Drengin are both terrified of the results the humans achieved and the fact that they would voluntarily go back to a completely demilitarized state afterward. They cannot wrap their minds around it.
*** And yet, in the sequel, the Drengin are on the verge of beating the humans back to the Stone Age.
**** The Drengin needed the help of the [[Abusive Precursors|Dread Lords]] to pull that off, and even that didn't take -- between the Dread Lords' later betrayal of the Drengin and humanity doing what it does best, by the end of the second expansion pack humanity is better off than ever and the Drengin look like they've been dragged backwards through a plastic shredder.
** ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'' has another example. Not that they were exactly sleeping by this point, but Kai Leng {{spoiler|stealing the data on the Catalyst out from under Shepard's nose}} finally pisses the Alliance off enough to focus their entire military might on Cerberus.
* Sort of in [[Overlord II]]. The elves {{spoiler|futilely try to stop the Overlord from clubbing baby seals.}} Due to these actions, the Overlord and his horde of Minions decide to kill some elves and {{spoiler|knock down their Sanctuary.}} He then decides to enslave or destroy both the elves and The Empire.
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== Western Animation ==
* [[Played Straight]] and [[Discussed]] in the ''[[Thundercats 2011
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'''[[Reptiles Are Abhorrent|Ssslithe]]''': The elephants... [[This Cannot Be!|the elephants never fight]]!
'''[[Gentle Giant|Anet]]''': Only rarely. But when we do, [[Beware the Nice Ones|we fight to win]]! }}
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** The Soviet Union was neutral [[Neutral No Longer|until Germany invaded it]] in June 1941, and [[Patriotic Fervor|we all know]] [[We Have Reserves|how that turned out.]]
*** [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]] [[Dirty Communists|despised Soviet Russia]], as outlined in his 1926 [[Very Loosely Based on a True Story|autobiography]] ''Mein Kampf''. His primary goal all along was to expand Germany into Russia. [[The Woobie|Western Europe]] was just a bonus.
**** Rather disputable, considering his long-term aims and desires for revenge from [[World War
*** Some recent authors have claimed that Stalin was planning a preemptive invasion of Germany at the same time Germany was planning its attack on the Soviet Union, and that the Wehrmacht beat the Red Army to the punch by, at most, a few weeks. These claims are highly disputed and not taken seriously by mainstream historians. Even if one doesn't buy into them, the speed at which the Soviet Union was modernizing was a very genuine concern, particularly in the military sphere. The Soviets had already curb stomped the Japanese, who while a vastly weaker force than Germany had defeated Russia before, and were roughly half-through modernization and were quick recovering from the purges. Such assessments very much favored striking while the iron's hot, and it's worth noting that similar concerns about Tsarist modernization are what triggered the decision of the Central Powers to seek at least a limited war in the East against the Slavic side of the Allies, which was rewarded with a comprehensive victory in the East that was only ruined by intervention from the West. So while Barbarossa might not have been *smart*, it might have well been the very best chance the Reich was going to get. Pearl Harbor, though? [[Hollywood Tactics|Yeah.... banking on your supposed military prowess to fight pretty much the entire Western world *and* its' colonies after being stalemated by a hand-to-mouth China and defeated by half-obsolete Soviet forces]] [[What an Idiot!|is not such a good idea.]]
**** Basically, both sides were preparing to invade, but neither was prepared to defend. The Red Air Force was all but annihilated early into the invasion as they put all their fighters and bomberg tightly grouped together, expecting to eliminate the Luftwaffe in one fell swoop. Instead, the opposite happened.
** In December 1941, the Imperial Japanese Navy implemented its 'southern strategy' before its fuel reserves ran out under the United States' oil embargo. Invading British Malaya and the Dutch East Indies, they also took the American [[Banana Republic|Philippines]] and attacked the US fleet at Pearl Harbor. The Imperial Cabinet had, however, made a grievous error: the USA's national pride was such that it would much rather fight an incredibly expensive war that had little to do with it than be seen to back down, especially not to a non-European power. The film depiction in ''[[Tora! Tora! Tora!]]'' provides the [[Trope Namer|trope-naming]] quotation.
** To paraphrase John McWhorter: "By the end of 1941 Hitler would invade Russia and declare war on the United States, which as mistakes go were both [[What an Idiot!|quite big ones]]."
***It's a little more complicated. Several states in World War II declared war because their [[Big Brother Bully]] "ally" told them "declare war or we'll invade you" and because everyone knew that was the reason they took the war with absolutely no seriousness whatsoever. America could have in fact theoretically treated the declaration as a mere courtesy call to the Japanese and ignored it. However America was spoiling for a fight anyway for the very practical reason that it did not want the war to end with all of Europe as Hitler's personal Arsenal of Tyranny. Furthermore he actually ordered German forces to attack America even though there was little they could do besides blow up a few ships and mess up coastal traffic for a few weeks. Forgetting strategy for tactics was a common German flaw and Germany got the local advantage of relaxing rules of engagement for a fatal long term price.
* The actual quote, featured in the movie ''Tora! Tora! Tora!'', appears to be a case of [[Beam Me Up, Scotty]], as there is no reliable record of Yamamoto ever saying it.
** While he did not explicitly say those words, Yamamoto did express similar sentiments to his superiors prior to the attack. Yamamoto was of no illusions that all the attack would accomplish in the end would be the destruction of Japan as a Great Power, and the only question he could raise was whether the attack would buy six months or a year of grace with which to act before the hammer fell. (''Midway'' was six months to the day after ''Pearl Harbor'', bizarrely).
** Pearl Harbor was rather inept as a First Strike - but in all fairness, it was supposed to ''deter'' US entry into the war.
* Basically both Germany and Japan were in the grips of a cult of [[Testosterone Poisoning]] that thought everyone with more civilized tastes then slaughtering other people's men, [[Would Hurt a Child|killing other people's children]] and [[I Showed Her What A Real Man Is|showing other people's women what a real man is]] was somehow not "manly" enough to actually fight. Of course things turned out to be slightly different.
* This is what happened on 9/11, only the giant had no visible enemy to lash out at.
** When Osama bin Laden was killed and his records seized, it turned out that he was completely [[Genre Blind]] to this trope. He was actively holding his forces back from several planned attacks until someone came up with a plan for a massive attack on a date of great symbolic importance to Americans, in the hope they would be intimidated into withdrawing. Christina H at Cracked.com compared this strategy to repeatedly kicking a bees' nest in the hope that all the bees would give up and go home.
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* They haven't done it yet, but imagine the sort of trouble the Swiss could cause if provoked. There's a reason they're the ones guarding the Pope. Switzerland is supremely well defended, riddled with nuclear bunkers (including hospitals, schools and other infrastructure) with some reports of hollowed out mountains that contain heavy artillery ready to mobilize at any point in the country, has access to vast amounts of economic wealth from all around the world, and a ready-armed military reserve composed of every one of its citizens. On top of that, a high quality of life worth fighting for, and one of the most defensible borders any landlocked country can boast. No one will ever declare war on the Swiss because they actually are a force to be reckoned with in every respect. Especially because they wouldn't indiscriminately freeze all banking, but rather would choose their targets wisely. Don't underestimate Switzerland, there's a reason it's gotten away with remaining neutral for so long.
* Napoleon considered China a sleeping giant. Given China's "rise", he was probably on to something.
* Even American historians agree that the US's decision to declare war on the most powerful country in the world in [[The War of 1812|1812]] was a monumentally stupid thing to do.
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