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***** In defense of the cops, they had to be that close to perform crowd control.
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* A character that uses violence and fear to defeat his chaotic enemies. Wait, we're talking about Batman? I thought we were talking about [[Green Lantern|Sinestro]]. The core of Batman is the same as Sinestro, but Batman's use of it is generally appreciated, whilst Sinestro is demeaned for it. Christ, the reason why Batman hates Hal and the other [[
** Yes, they both use fear, but they don't use it to the same ends or for the same purposes. Batman uses fear to protect innocent people and to take down criminals. Sinestro uses fear to rule, take over, and generally do bad things. The ''core'' of Batman isn't the same as Sinestro, just ''one'' of Batman's methodologies is similar to Sinestro's modus operandi.
** I would disagree, and say your analysis of how the two characters use Fear is exactly the hypocrisy I'm talking about. Sinestro still considers himself the Greatest Green Lantern, and his Corps is merely an extension of that: protect the innocents by scaring the bejesus out of the criminal element. Batman is one Power Ring away from ruling / taking over Gotham.
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*** The original source at the time really wasn't that different. The show didn't invent the idea of Batman as a beloved Gotham celebrity who gives Boy Scout lectures alongside his cheerful young sidekick and uses goofy gadgets and [[Insane Troll Logic]] to solve crimes - that's what comic-book Batman was actually like in the years leading up to the show. The TV series just lampooned the situation and made it hard to keep taking that version of Batman seriously, which ironically did modern Batman fans a favor by forcing DC to bring the character back to his noir roots (quoting the [[The Other Wiki]]: "Starting in 1969, writer Dennis O'Neil and artist Neal Adams made a deliberate effort to distance Batman from the campy portrayal of the 1960s TV series and to return the character to his roots as a 'grim avenger of the night'".) And yeah, the series is an over the top ''parody'' of early Silver Age Batman. The television writers weren't blind to how cheesy and ridiculous the stories were: that was the whole point. Making fun of the '60s series for being campy is like making fun of a clown for having a funny face.
*** Except according to [[The Other Wiki]] page for the Adam West show, that isn't actually the case. That page says that the '60s Batman series was created in the style of a show called ''The Man From U.N.C.L.E.'' (which I have never heard of so I won't comment on it). It also says the executive producer William Dozer, quote, "''loathed'' comic books" and "concluded the only way to make the show work was to do it as a pop art camp comedy". ''And'' it also says that the comics had already started turning away from the Silver Age campyness by that point anyway. If the Adam West series was intended as a satire on the Silver Age Batman comics, I don't see any evidence of it. At least not on Wikipedia.
**** Read [http://cacb.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/the-jokers-comedy-of-errors/ "The Joker's Comedy of Errors"]. Even putting aside the avalanche of [[Accidental Innuendo]] that turned it into a meme, it plays exactly like an episode of the 1960's TV show. And it was written in 1951. For another example (along with more meme-inducing innuendo), check out [https://web.archive.org/web/20130618100044/http://www.againwiththecomics.com/2007/08/batmans-marriage-trap.html "Batman's Marriage Trap"] from 1969, a year after the show ended: despite a few modern elements like the Gotham mob, PR manipulation and real murder threats, it's still almost [[Batman and Robin (film)|Schumacher-level]] craziness. During the show's run, this was the version of Batman imprinted on the mainstream public consciousness.
** Would that be an example of the [[Weird Al Effect]] ?
* How does Mr Freeze ever break out of Arkham? His cell is kept cold so he can survive in it, so presumably they don't let him keep his special suit. So how does he escape without dying from the heat?
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