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So you've got a hero. He's a really good hero, and [[Heroic Vow|he has rules]] (heroes often do, after all). Let's say, hypothetically, that one of those rules is that [[Doesn't Like Guns|he'll never use a gun]]. [[Death Byby Origin Story|Maybe his parents were brutally murdered in front of him with one, spurring him into heroism in the first place.]] Whatever. The guy doesn't use guns.
 
[[Godzilla Threshold|Then something bad happens. The stakes go up.]] Maybe a villain bent on bringing about [[Omnicidal Maniac|universal entropy]] arrives. The hero's pushed to his absolute limit. The world, even the universe, is hanging in the balance. There's only one way to put things right. The hero picks up the weapon...
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** Daredevil finally killed Bullseye after the latter blew up a housing project killing everyone inside. {{spoiler|Daredevil was also a bit [[The Corruption|demonically possessed]] at the time.}}
* Dick Grayson broke his no-killing rule after he believed [[The Joker]] had murdered Tim Drake.
* Pretty common in general among the Gotham heroes, as it happened with [[Catwoman (Comic Bookcomics)|Catwoman]] against Black Mask.
* Two-Face had a villainous one a long time ago, choosing to ignore his coin to spare Batman's life.
* [[Superman]] generally never uses his [[Eye Beams|heat vision]] against living beings. Except against Mongul in ''[[For the Man Who Has Everything]]''. Burn, indeed.
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** In ''[[Superman At Earths End]]'', a power-less Superman uses guns without blinking. (Just another reason why it's been said that said comic is "Superman [[In Name Only]]")
* An aversion in the final issue of Richard Dragon's series. He's sworn off killing, and SPECIFICALLY sworn off using the deadly Leopard Blow, but resolves to kill one final time (specifically, to kill his love interest/arch enemy Lady Shiva) to save the life of a young boy. During the climactic battle with Shiva, {{spoiler|he has her set up for the blow, and attempts to deliver it, but is tackled away by her ninjas and killed shortly thereafter.}}
** It is worth mentioning that large parts of this series have been [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity|booted from canon]].
* [[Captain America]], who, being [[The Cape]], embodies values like [[Thou Shalt Not Kill]] has found himself forced to kill his enemies sometimes:
** He had to decapitate Baron Blood because it was the only way to stop a vampire. Cap was crying when doing it.
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== Music ==
* In the ''[[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny (bandsong)|Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]]'', Batman stole [[Indiana Jones]]' gun, and he shot, and he missed. Then [[Jackie Chan]] deflected it with his fist.
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
* Faith from ''[[Mirror's Edge|Mirrors Edge]]'' applies to this<ref>Based on her personal politics and ignoring [[Video Game Cruelty Potential|player cruelty potential]]</ref>; considering her [[Death Byby Origin Story|parents were shot for protesting]], [[Thicker Than Water|her sister is a cop]] and the player is [[That One Achievement|generously awarded for not so much as]] ''[[That One Achievement|shooting]]'' [[That One Achievement|anyone]], you ''know'' Faith is pissed when she's pointing a gun at an officer.
* Played with in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots]]'', with Snake's rule not to use CQC (added to the series in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]'', a prequel, so presumably Snake knew it since before ''[[Metal Gear 1987]]''), because of Big Boss' betrayal of FOXHOUND. He uses it [[Damn You, Muscle Memory!|because his first response to someone using it on him is to respond in kind]]. While [[Enfant Terrible|Liquid]], [[Magnificent Bastard|Ocelot]], [[Shell-Shocked Veteran|Gray Fox]] and [[President Evil|Solidus]] might have known it, they all either had their own highly effective fighting styles, or were just never never in a situation where they would use it.
* Played brilliantly straight in ''[[Devil May Cry]] 3''. [[Red Oni, Blue Oni|Dante and Virgil]] are twins who are the sons of the demon Sparda. Dante chose to fight against demons, despite being half-demon himself, while Virgil joined them. Dante uses his pistols, Ebony and Ivory, and his [[BFS|sword]]; Virgil only uses his [[Katanas Are Just Better|katana, Yamato]], [[Does Not Like Guns|hating guns]] because he believes them dishonorable. However, when push comes to shove, [[Moment of Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|Virgil ends up taking one of Dante's guns and the pair shoot]] [[Big Bad|Arkham]] simultaneously, finishing him off.