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{{trope}}
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Can, and often does, overlap with [[Let's Get Dangerous]], [[Big Damn Heroes]], [[OOC Is Serious Business]], and/or [[Despair Event Horizon]]. It's a kind of [[Godzilla Threshold]]. Pretty much always results in an [[Oh Crap]] moment for the villain. Can be a [[Moment of Awesome]], but it will ''always'' be [[Played for Drama]]. This trope isn't just a hero doing something they wouldn't normally do. It's a hero doing something they're fundamentally against (see the examples below). If the hero has ever done it before (at least, during their heroic career), it's not this trope. This is the hero breaking their ''golden rule''.
Happens most frequently to the [[Retired Badass]], [[Knight in Shining Armor]], or [[Invincible Hero]], often during a [[What You Are in
When adding examples, please be sure to mention for the sake of clarity what the rule is that's being broken.
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* ''[[Trigun]]'': Vash uses guns all the time. However, as a master of [[Improbable Aiming Skills]], he uses it solely for trick shots, and when in serious trouble, will at most shoot a person somewhere where they'll heal. He doesn't believe in a situation where you can't save everyone. However, {{spoiler|at one point, he is given a true no win scenario, where the villain sets up a situation that will result in the death of his friends, unless the villain is killed (he has... issues). After much hesitation, Vash kills him. He [[Heroic BSOD|doesn't take it well]]. Bear in mind that this was merely [[The Dragon]] he killed, and getting himself shot was the whole point.}}
* Miria in ''[[Claymore]]'' breaks her one rule of never killing fellow Claymores during her battle against {{spoiler|Hysteria the Elegant}}, as that was the only way to end the fight before {{spoiler|a recently Awakened Cassandra}} killed all her allies.
* ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'''s Shinji has always kept the same promise to himself to [[Madness Mantra|"never run away"]] from his duties for 26 episodes, and aside from a couple [[Ten
* ''[[Monster]]'': One of the major theme of the manga is the mental and physical tribulation of Dr. Tenma as he's forced to pick up a gun to hunt and kill a monster he unknowingly saved. This trope already has a bleak atmosphere hanging around it, but it's pushed to the realm of [[Deconstruction]] in his case. {{spoiler|In the end, he ''didn't'' kill anyone. Not even [[The Dragon]] of said monster [[Disney Villain Death|he thought he killed]]. Not the monster himself, the final confrontation with whom put the life of a child at a stake.}}
* ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (
== Comic Books ==
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** When Cap and [[Bucky Barnes]] first appeared, they used guns all the time since it was a different time. When he was brought into the [[Silver Age]], they gave him a [[Retcon]], explaining that he never used a gun or lethal force, even during the war. More interpretations explain that Cap used guns during [[World War II]] but has since avoided using lethal force. As Cap sees it, he's no longer acting as a soldier, so using lethal force isn't appropriate.
* Subverted during an arc of ''[[X-Men]]'': Professor X, of all people, is packing heat. But it's only to use as a last resort ''on himself'' to prevent any evil force from "hijacking" his brain (arguably one of the greatest weapons in the [[Marvel Universe]]). When faced with such a threat... {{spoiler|he does not go through with it, giving the entity a chance to leave his mind before he fires.}} Things go downhill from there...
* [[Spider
** Peter had inadvertently killed in the past: the second [[Red Skull]] who had killed his parents (he redirected a missile which ended up killing him), ducking out of the way of [[Norman Osborn]]'s spiked glider which pierced his heart (although he got better), he backhanded a [[Badass Normal]] terrorist and killed her when in battle against [[Wolverine]] (he thought it was Wolvie in a berserker rage), and killed Morlun in an evolving nigh-animalistic state during ''The Other'' storyarc.
* [[ROM Spaceknight]] usually follows [[Thou Shalt Not Kill]], but made an exception for Hybrid when he realized his Neutralizer couldn't banish a human-Wraith hybrid to Limbo and that Hybrid was too evil and dangerous to be allowed to live.
== Film ==
* In ''[[Things to Do
* In ''[[Wizards]]'', [[Actual Pacifist]] wizard Avatar confronts his [[Cain and Abel|evil brother]] Blackwolf, {{spoiler|and rather than engage him in a [[Wizard Duel]], simply pulls out a gun and shoots him dead.}}
* In ''[[The Rundown]],'' the Rock's character refuses to pick up a gun the entire movie, maintaining that "bad things happen" when he does. When he gets into a tight spot in the end, he does end up using guns -- and it's '''awesome.'''
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== Literature ==
* Any time a ''[[Harry Potter (
* In ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', Harry has been offered incredible power, often at terrible prices, throughout the series. He's always refused, though at the same time has always been tempted by that power. Offers range from the addictive draw of pure [[Black Magic]], the eternal knowledge and power of a [[Fallen Angel]], the possible godlike power of the Darkhallow, and the standing offer by [[The Fair Folk|Mab, Queen of the Winter Court]], to become her Knight. Harry steadfastly resists all of these offers, as he knows that succumbing to these temptations will destroy him as a person. Then the badguys {{spoiler|kidnap his daughter}}, and Harry {{spoiler|accepts Mab's offer to become her Knight.}}
** Earlier on, he threatens to pull ''everything'' listed above to his advantage if Mavra the Black Court Vampiress ever does harm to his friends again (especially Murphy). The threat is so effective that Mavra hasn't been seen or heard from since.
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== Live-Action TV ==
* Famously done in ''[[Magnum,
* In ''[[Doctor Who]]'', the Doctor has had a few of these moments (at least as far as the ''taking up''; mostly he's never gone all the way through with the using it):
** In "The Invasion of Time", he not only takes up a gun after Gallifrey is invaded, it's an ancient Time Lord superweapon he builds from scratch for the express purpose. And he ''uses it'', after the leader of the invaders forces his hand.
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== Music ==
* In the ''[[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny (
== [[Video Games]] ==
* Faith from ''[[
* Played with in ''[[
* Played brilliantly straight in ''[[Devil May Cry]] 3''. [[Red Oni, Blue Oni|Dante and Virgil]] are twins who are the sons of the demon Sparda. Dante chose to fight against demons, despite being half-demon himself, while Virgil joined them. Dante uses his pistols, Ebony and Ivory, and his [[BFS|sword]]; Virgil only uses his [[Katanas Are Just Better|katana, Yamato]], [[Does Not Like Guns|hating guns]] because he believes them dishonorable. However, when push comes to shove, [[
* Sort of in ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'', in the [[Tear Jerker|Overlord DLC]]. Paragon!Shepard isn't completely averse to violence, but tends to keep it as a last resort. Later in the mission, there is a paragon interrupt to pistol whip a [[Complete Monster]] because of his [[Moral Event Horizon]], not in self-defence. And it's [[
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* ''[[
* The ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]'' episode "Dead Reckoning" has [[Deadman (Comic Book)|Deadman]] possess Batman and kill Devil Ray with a nearby gun in order to save [[Wonder Woman]]. Batman is visibly disgusted with it.
** Deadman [[Heroic BSOD|doesn't react too well either]].
** Another episode has an [[Alternate History]] version of Batman grab a gun from a fellow resistance fighter. Of course, his parents weren't killed by a lone gunman right in front of him, but killed by Hugo Savage's soldiers storming Wayne Manor.
* ''[[Batman:
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