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Take the three major facets of the ''[[Nasuverse]]'': ''[[
Battle Moon Wars is notable for successfully blending Nasuverse canon together, and pulling together a unique story of its own ([[Word of God]] about power
Translation Patch so far can be found [http://blog.seiha.org/2008/07/battle-moon-wars-translation-journeys-temporary-end/ here.]
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* [[All There in the Manual]]: You ''have'' read/seen ''[[Kara no Kyoukai
▲* [[All There in the Manual]]: You ''have'' read/seen ''[[Kara no Kyoukai (Literature)|Kara no Kyoukai]]'', played the Heaven's Feel version of ''[[Fate Stay Night (Visual Novel)|Fate Stay Night]]'' (which was ''not'' [[Road Cone|in the anime]]), played ''[[Melty Blood (Video Game)|Melty Blood]]'', played ''Fate/Hollow Ataraxia'', played ''Kagetsu Tohya'', and read ''[[Fate Zero (Literature)|Fate Zero]]'', right? Actually, the game is pretty good at explaining the major bits, but the sheer [[Backstory]] is overwhelming.
** For example, the reason that Saber was able to defeat {{spoiler|Nrvsnqr is because his mage self was resurrected as well as his vampire self, and had extended his reality marble with his magic. However, in the [[Nasuverse]], an old famous sword can rip apart magic by having history. Old swords really don't get more famous than Excalibur. Boost that with a Command Seal backed Noble Phantasm; and his magic didn't have a chance.}} Even more telling is the [[Word of God]] via interview that Saber's Excalibur as the type of attack that is able to {{spoiler|kill Nrvsnqr, apparently because it has the sheer power to be able to kill all his lives in one shot.}}
* [[Anti-Villain]]: {{spoiler|Quite a few, actually ; after all, Kuu wants to save the world, and some characters wouldn't have followed her if she was fully evil. Apart from her, Caster just wants to find Kuzuki, Kiritsugu and Iris are mainly here to see how their children are doing, Aoko is her usual [[Chaotic Neutral]] self, Ilya doesn't really care and helps the heroes on several occasions, and Archer...well.}}
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** {{spoiler|Evidently, she just ''found it''...and I guess that, after the Heaven's Feel ending of Fate/Stay Night, it wouldn't be with its original host anyhow...Who knows what rivers it went down.}}
*** {{spoiler|And apparently ate part of it, or something.}}
* [[Back
* [[Badass Adorable]]: ''Every'' player character, quite frankly. They're slightly less messed up than in the source material, and the [[Super
* [[Becoming the Mask]]: Kohaku's goofy persona was a creation to hide her trauma at repeated child abuse. In ''[[
** Even in this game, Kohaku's first scene was plotting the "Tohno Family Takeover Plan" and she initially welcomed Saber because "one should never look a gift minion in the mouth." However, Saber grew into her [[Morality Pet]]. Heck, even if the original ''[[
*** She's still wily, though, as Stage 53 shows.
* [[The Battle Didn't Count]]: Much like ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'', many of early bosses just ignore it if you drive their HP to 0 (even if their battle screen sprite comments you killed them and you get experience!) and just unleash their nefarious plan anyway.
* [[Be Yourself]]: Part of the lesson that Shiki Ryogi gives to Tohno Shiki in gaining strength. There's no need to fight his origins as a Nanaya; merely master it. Kill one's enemies and don't kill one's friends.
** Symmetrically, when Shiki accepts himself, Nanaya starts accepting himself too. In ''Kagetsu Tohya'', he's infuriated to be created a "mass murderer" in Shiki's dream world. Nobody there was real, so the only person he can kill is Shiki; so he can't be a "mass" murderer. When Shiki has his revelation, Nanaya stops caring about killing other people and only wants to kill Shiki or be killed by him.
* [[BFG]]: Ciel's Seventh Holy Scripture is kind of iffy since it's not an actual ''gun'' (though it's frequently listed under this trope elsewhere, and ''looks'' the part if nothing else), but [[Ninja Maid|Natsuki]] wields an anti-tank rifle, which definitely fits. Also examples of [[Small Girl, Big Gun]]
* [[Big Brother Mentor]]: Takumi places himself into this role; giving advice, supporting, teasing, and ocassionally scolding Shiki and Akiha as need be. His comparisons of them to his little sister at home who is their age clinches it.
* [[Big Damn Heroes]]: So very much. Given the source material, it's to be expected. Everyone will suddenly pull someone else's bacon out of the fire at some point.
* [[Bleached Underpants]]: Instead of being someone whose only way of giving [[Mana]] was [[Supernaturally Delicious and Nutritious|blood]] and [[Deus Sex Machina|other fluid exchange]] that a Synchronizer can give; and the typical way for a Servant to receive from a non-Mage; Kohaku somehow has a Ley Line (which supposedly requires years of training to create) with Saber that simply transmits [[Mana]] through proximity. Saber only once in the beginning notes that somehow Kohaku has "something similar enough to Mana" and Kohaku wonders if that's her Synchronizer status.
** The game as a whole, considering it borrows all of its canon from games or novels originally rated adult, manages to be Teen rated content wise at absolute worst, partially due to the artstyle and partially due to the nature of the Compressed Adaptation of the various plots.
* [[Blessed
* [[Bonus Dungeon]]: Have fun dealing with the "Tohno Family Takeover Plan" should you get all Battle Masteries. {{spoiler|Kohaku unleashes the Robopocalypse of Mecha-Hisuis as well as unlocks her Magical Amber form and Saber's Saber Lily form. She somehow takes control of Arcueid; and the cast has to deal with five rounds of this. Upon failure, Kohaku breaks out the [[Easy Amnesia]] gas.}} This does, however, unlock those extra abilities in [[New Game
* [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]: Arcueid, usually when in [[Magical Girl]] form.
* [[Colony Drop]]: One of [[Super-Powered Evil Side|Red Arcueid]]'s attacks involves ripping the moon out of the sky and dropping it on her hapless target.
* [[Color Coded for Your Convenience]]: ( {{spoiler|Sakura decides to wear darker colors to represent accepting her [[Dark Is Edgy|Shadow elemental powers]].}})
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** [[Badass Boast|"This was the first sword to kill a god. Fortunately, a Heroic Spirit is less than that."]]
* [[The Corruption]]: Oh, take your pick. We've got Nero Chaos, Angra Mainyu, and then the stagnation happening in Misaki city. It's powerful enough to make Haruna physically sick and prompts her [[Heroic BSOD]] later on.
* [[
* [[Deadpan Snarker]]: Caren. Interestingly, this is more her [[Doujinshi]] [[Little Miss Snarker]] personality than ''Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.'' She starts getting her original personality back as the plot goes into the ''Ataraxia'' plotline, but she's still...dry. Her apparent inability to change facial expressions doesn't help this image.
** Lancer's even better at this. Ciel and oddly enough Hisui (Mainly regarding her sister) get numerous moments of Deadpan Snarkiness.
* [[Demoted to Extra]]:
** Assassin: There's even a dummied out Assassin card that increased Arms and critical hits. Alas, no Assassin, no Samurai card to take from him.
** Kotomine. Every other [[Big Bad]] and [[Disc One Final Boss]] in the 'verse showed up for the party but nobody invited the [[Final Boss]] of two out of three of [[Fate/stay
* [[Dynamic Difficulty]]: Like in [[Super Robot Wars]], it has Battle Masteries, optional challenges for each stage, do them and the difficulty goes up.
* [[Everything's Better
* [[Evil Is Not a Toy]]: Averted with Sakura, who starts using [[Sealed Evil in
* [[Evil Twin]]: Shiki Nanaya is one of the beings brought to life by the incident. Ciel speculates he's a Tatari clone, but Shiki thinks he's [[Enemy Without|something]] [[Enemy Within|more]]. Note, he uses a knife similar to Shiki Ryougi's; not Seven Nights and cannot see the Lines of Death like the one from the ''[[
** Later, after learning how to overcome his darkness and defeating that Nanaya, Shiki ''does'' fight a copy of Nanaya; and notes how it was much weaker than his previous nemesis. Also, Tatari later states it can't be a Master, and Nanaya was Archer's Master.
* [[Expansion Pack]]: A Fan-made [[Expansion Pack]] named [https://web.archive.org/web/20090831095822/http://bmw.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?t=135
** Not to mention a generic enemy that...well, has a very [[School Days
* [[Expy]]: The fact that several characters are Expies of each other is [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] a few times, such as when Touko points out that Shiki Tohno is very similar in appearance to Mikiya Kokutou (from ''[[Kara no Kyoukai
** In fact, the [[Fate/stay
* [[Fan Service]]: Any female character's [[Overly-Long Fighting Animation]] has a good chance of featuring this at some point. Special mention has to go to Shirou and Sakura's combination attack, which features Sakura temporarily changing into a revealing dress that'd be fanservicey enough by itself, and then includes [[Gainaxing]] and teases [[Wardrobe Malfunction]] in several shots.
** There's also the Shiki-Shiki combo attack that quite blatantly shows off Ryougi's ass.
* [[Fantasy Kitchen Sink]]: ...well, let's see, the game opens up with a [[Mad Scientist]] [[Meido]] who accidentally summons a female [[King Arthur]]. This is interrupted by a [[Our Vampires Are Different|vampire]] kidnapping the other [[Meido]], so King Arthur's Meido Master sends her Robot after them; and while the chase is on they're joined by a Mage and the Vampire Moon Princess; who has decided to use her awesome [[Reality Warper]] abilities to become a [[Magical Girl]] for giggles. This is just stage 3.
* [[Final Speech]]: {{spoiler|After you beat Kuu on Stage 49.}}
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* [[Food
* [[Fragile Speedster]]: Tohno Shiki, Lancer, most Real-type characters.
* [[Fusion Dance]]: Roa + SHIKI = RoSHIaKI the ninja!!! Yes really.
* [[
* [[Gainaxing]]: Sakura in Act 2.
* [[Giant Space Flea From Nowhere]]: {{spoiler|The events have all been caused by [[Original Generation]] villainess Kuu who is generating a ritual to suppress a Devil that is about to emerge. While the "Soulpression" technique was mentioned earlier, the Devil is only mentioned near the end in the game.}}
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* [[Gratuitous German]]: Sakura. Just Sakura. Kaleido Ruby also invokes this in her intro.
* [[Groundhog Day Loop]]: The events of ''Ataraxia'' occur during all of this; due to the various dream magics thrown around; quite a few extra players get involved the repeating four days.
* [[Harder Than Hard]] : As if the game wasn't hard enough with the Battle Masteries and all, in a [[New Game
* [[Heroic Willpower]]: Sakura's powerup comes when she accepts her Darkness powers and can control them without hurting people.
* [[
* [[I Choose to Stay]]: {{spoiler|Saber chooses to stay with Kohaku. Kohaku realizes that Saber needs an honorable reason; not only an emotional one, so uses Akiha as an example of showing Saber leadership. How to handle loyalty, how to handle treachery, how to be a lion at home and a diplomat away. And, incidentally, she can stay with Kohaku as well. Sakura and some broken grail fragments help out with the mana requirement.}}
* [["I Know You
* [[Intimate Healing]]: In the Post-Game Bonus stages, Touko comments on how Shirou's healing into his new body is so fast is because he's been getting ''lots'' of [[Mana]] from what he and Sakura do at night.
* [[Improbable Weapon User]]: Kohaku and Hisui use a broom and a mop respectively in their attacks.
** * Scoffs* Warcueid hits you with '''''the moon''''' (at least that's how it appears). The moon, people. It can't ''get'' any more improbable than this.
* [[It's Personal]]: Arcueid picks up a beef with Gilgamesh in Act 4 for not treating her like a [[Worthy Opponent]].
* [[Jack of All Stats]]: Ciel and Archer. Ciel is a Super-type unit with some evasion, Archer is a Real-type unit with high HP and Toughness.
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** RoSHIaKI, so much.
* [[Les Yay]]: To remove Haruna's [[Power Limiter]] and activate their [[Combination Attack]] Natsuki has to... [[Intimate Healing|kiss her]]. She then asks if Haruna's blushing. (She is.)
** There's also Kohaku being Saber's Master. Given the intimacy that relationship often became in ''[[Fate/stay
** Phantasmoon: If you're ever lonely, Ciel, come over and we'll play.
* [[Let's Get Dangerous]]: When Arcueid ''stops'' being a [[Magical Girl]] is when she shows off her true power.
* [[Lightning Bruiser]]: Although Takumi and Saber, as Super characters, can't dodge as well as the likes of Shiki or Lancer, but their high HP, toughness, movement range allows them to tank at the frontlines with the sweepers unlike some of the [[Mighty Glacier
* [[Mad Scientist]]: In this game it is [[Canon]] that Kohaku constructs Mecha-Hisui's in her secret lair under the Tohno mansion.
* [[Magical Girl]]: ''Two'' of them. Arcueid, after watching too much anime, decides to become one. Thus the Magical Girl Phantasmoon is born. She takes Len as her sidekick. And of course, Rin, to her horror, gets stuck with her Kaleido Ruby alter ego again...
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* [[Morality Pet]]: Kohaku has nothing but caring and gentleness for Saber.
* [[Multiple Endings]]: Well, more like alternate mid-game. If you do not allow Shiki to kill Yumizuka the 3 times she shows up against you, {{spoiler|She will die protecting Shiki from Nanaya.}} If you do allow him to kill her those 3 times, {{spoiler|She becomes an unlocked character that you can now use in deployment.}}
* [[New Game
▲* [[New Game Plus]]: Like the [[Super Robot Wars]] series, completing one mode let's you get the [[Secret Character]] from the other mode. Also, upon finishing the game, one can increase difficulty 1-10; as well as add a special item that increases stats. Unused stat points also carry over; as well as certain special abilities should you beat the [[Bonus Dungeon]].
* [[Ninja Maid]]: Hisui and Kohaku, plus new character Natsuki.
* [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot]]: RoSHIaKI, a fusion of one of the most powerful vampires and a [[Half-Human Hybrid|demon hybrid]]. He's also a freakin' ninja!
* [[Normally I Would Be Dead Now]]: Kohaku, one of the most normal (relatively speaking) characters in the game tanks a blast from Gilgamesh's [[Wave Motion Gun|Ea]] in Act 4 and comes out pretty torn up but alive and in one piece. {{spoiler|[[Justified Trope|Fortunately she has Avalon, the Sheath of Excalibur.]]}}
* [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] : Kohaku: "I don't recognize the name 'Excalibur', I'm just not good with history!" [[Cough
* [[Odd Couple]]: [[Yandere|Kohaku]] ends up being [[Lady of War|Saber's]] new Master.
** One of the underlying themes in Fate/stay night was that Masters tended to summon Servants who lead similar lives to their own. This troper thought it was a neat [[Lucky Translation]], or whatever its equivalent is for [[Massive Multiplayer Crossover
*** The game itself explores this. Saber killed off her emotions as a woman to become "The King" while Kohaku killed off her emotions to become "The Doll." Both wish there was another way.
* [[One Stat to Rule Them All]]: One of the ways of undermining the risks of using the [[Glass Cannon|glass cannons]] is to pump BP into Quick (which, in conjunction with your base Evade, determines how successful you'll be at avoiding enemy attacks). As a lot of these characters have high Quick values to begin with, their fragility becomes a non-issue once their dodge rate approaches 100% (usually around 160+ Quick). The Shikis also gain Perfect Evade based on Will increase.
* [[Original Generation]]: Haruna, Takumi, and Natsuki all work for an organization called "Shin'i." They generally use [[Magitek]] in order to prevent the supernatural from preying on humans, as well as encourage cooperation and co-existence between the neutral supernaturals. Anybody or anything magical; good or bad; get termed as "[[Youkai]]." Vampires, Servants, etc. Including themselves. However, they are considered small potatoes against the big players of the [[Nasuverse]] like the Mage Association and the Church; they have only been around in the last 50 years, and only active in the [[Nasuverse]] region the last 10. They are, however, more native to Japan than either of those organizations; so have ties to the general supernatural community such as the Tohno family.
** In the first chapter we see them taking orders from a housecat named Mike. Mike is never shown again; although Takumi comments that he is their trainer. There's also some name drops to other members named Megami (weapon maker) and Tsukiyo; but they never show up.
*** Kuu is a feared ancestor of Haruna's.
* [[The Not
* [[Panty Shot]]: Arcueid specifically redesigns her [[Power-Up]] [[Magical Girl]] outfit to invoke this.
** Magical Amber's [[Overly-Long Fighting Animation|overly long fighting animation]] includes a ''zoom in panty shot''.
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** Even when fooling around as a [[Magical Girl]], she's still easily one of the strongest player characters before upgrades ''because Arcueid is just that powerful.''
* [[The Rival]]: [[Magical Girl]] Arcueid and [[Magical Girl]] Rin (spoofed to hell), Arcueid and Gilgamesh, Takumi and Berserker.
* [[Road Cone]]: One can either choose the "Super" (Takumi) or "Real" (Haruna) route; most of the game is the same but Super deals more with the Tsukihime side while Real is more Fate/Stay Night. Bonus characters from each can be carried over into [[New Game
** And regarding [[Road Cone]] franchises: Not much of a problem on the Tsukihime side, since ''[[
*** Although in the BMW-verse, both SHIKI and Roa are canon. And ''both'' are revived at the same time. Don't...try to think about it too hard; the game mostly hides the implications behind [[Rule of Funny]].
* [[Rule of Cool]]: [[Word of God]] states the odds of multiple people possessing the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception at once are something on the order of trillions to one, and other Nasuverse works have established that Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime exist in different continuities. But come on, them getting a [[Combination Attack]] is too awesome ''not'' to have.
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** Stage 34... Just... Stage 34. The first part isn't so bad, but the second part will make you scream of frustration: There's an horde of Angra Mainyu's, you have 5 turns to escape to the left (which is very short considering how far it is), all while the Mainyu's are launching their MAP skills (Ergo, no dodging/guarding/counterattacking action, and since they are grouped together, you also have to watch the Mainyu's MAP each other, which is very long, slow, and annoying). And then there's the battle mastery: Defeat True Assassin, AND THEN escape. [[Sarcasm Mode|Have fun !]]
* [[Secret Character]]: [[Demoted to Extra|Satsuki]] and Mech-Hisui are unlockables, Satsuki's usable on one stage even if you don't unlock her though. {{spoiler|Also, if you get enough Battle Masteries Aozaki Aoko will join you on the final stage.}}
** {{spoiler|Getting every single Battle Mastery, then beating Stage 53 and creating a [[New Game
* [[Shout
** Takumi is a walking shout out to Sanger Zonvolt, complete with '''[[BFS|A SWORD THAT SMITES EVIL!]]''' He also visually resembles [[Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team|Shiro Amada]].
*** Berserker viewing Takumi as a [[Worthy Opponent]] wouldn't be remarkable in and of itself...except that one of his attack animations copies the style of [[Evil Twin|Wodan Ymir]]'s Colossal Blade.
** Haruna's second attack (before it was updated in the Perfect Edition) is a near imitation of Ibis Douglas's RaMV attack.
** Phantasmoon's attacks are a homerun shot and the [[
** Then Phantasmoon Eclipse uses the [[Dragonball Z|Spirit Bomb]] (unless it's a [[Getter Robo|Stoner Sunshine]]);
** And when Arcueid eventually drops the magical girl shtick, her new basic attack becomes Cat Hand Smash, which is all but identical to [[Machine Robo|Vikungfu's]] God Hand Smash.
*** Two more references to Vikungfu in the double Shiki combo mimicking Vikungfu and Jet's combo, and Saber Lily mimicking Vikungfu's strongest attack of SRW fame with her Excalibur/Caliburn dual-sword attack. If that wasn't enough, remember all those scenes with Phantasmoon appearing out of the blue to give a heroic speech and kick some ass? Players of [[Super Robot Wars MX]] and [[Super Robot Wars
** Arcueid, Ciel, and Akiha have an insanely powerful combo attack called "Final Typenic Special" a reference to the common combo attack in [[Super Robot Wars]] called "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfEIAKpJP14 Final Dynamic Special]" which involves Mazinger and Getter robots.
** Speaking of [[Mazinger Z]], Mech-Hisui comes complete with a lawyer-friendly Jet Scrander.
** [[
*** Even funnier since "[[Red Baron|King of Heroes]]" and "[[Fan Nickname|King of Braves]]" are both valid translations of ''Yuusha-Oh''.
** Several of the enemy monsters are thinly veiled [[Shout
** If you DO get Sacchin, she comes with Bakunetsu God Finger from [[G Gundam]]. Likewise, Shiro and Sakura later gets a pastiche of Sekiha Love Love Tenkyoken.
** There are shades of ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' in Kaleido Ruby; her Prism Hammer attack bears an uncanny resemblance to the many incarnations of Vita's <s> [[
** Ciel's best attack is a variation on [[Super Robot Wars|Kyosuke Nanbu]]'s Trump Card.
** The special item gained from beating the game once, the "Abnormal Agonist" seems to be a reference to the main character of Nasu's new novel series, ''[[DDD]]'' aka ''[[Decoration Disorder Disconnection]]''.
** Magical Amber's attack cut-in does not really strike anything fancy aside from a [[Panty Shot]], until when Akiha, Shiki, and Hisui have a portrait that looks similar to the All-Out attack of ''[[
*** The attack itself is also a shout out to [[Eureka Seven]]
** This troper is kind of disappointed that no one mentioned RoSHIaKI's High Mega Cannon attack of ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
** No one seems to care about old shows... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBjgK_8ZUWc#t=1m18s Hisui and Kohaku's] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ3qUPLs5U4 combination attack]...
** Speaking of old shows, Nrvsnqr gets the [[Kotetsu Jeeg|Jeeg Breaker]].
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* [[Unbroken Vigil]]: Shirou attempts this for Sakura {{spoiler|after they rescue her}} but she really is okay; just tired. Rin scolds him to get outside. Saber for {{spoiler|Kohaku, after Gilgamesh slams her with an attack where everyone thought she was permanently rendered brain damaged.}}
* [[Worthy Opponent]]: Berserker seems to regard Takumi as one of these. Even with his Mad Enhancement killing his sanity, Ilya comments that he wanted to fight Takumi a second time at the end of Act 3.
* [[Xanatos Gambit]]: {{spoiler|Kuu counted on the heroes defeating all the villains brought [[Back
* [[Vampire Refugee]]: Satsuki and Sion. Sion handles it better due to alchemic research on the subject and her old Sire not caring as much.
* [[The Very Definitely Final Dungeon]]: Stage 51 takes place {{spoiler|inside a devil. Of course, if you've unlocked Stage 52, it's [[Subverted Trope|on a regular snowy field, complete with a snowman. And if you've unlocked stage 53, it's in Kohaku's Underground Dungeon.]]}}
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