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** It's played straight, however, in the [[Lighter and Fluffier]] spinnoff series, such as ''[[Angelic Days]]'' and ''[[Ikari Shinji Raising Project]]''.
** ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]]'' varies it a bit. The Veronica enters the [[Love Triangle]] out of jealousy in response to the guy making advances on the clueless Betty but bails as soon as she realizes the Betty loves the guy back and therefore she doesn't have a chance. And then there's the ''Rebuild''-newcomer Mari ([[Cloudcuckoolander|hard]] [[Nice Girl|to]] [[Ax Crazy|classify]] personality-wise) who we don't know if she's interested in him AND the [[Stalker with a Crush]] Kaworu who didn't get enough screentime so far to figure out his intentions.
* In ''[[School Days]]'', the Betty is Sekai, the [[Girl Next Door]] friend of the main lead with simple short hair and a bubbly personality, while the Veronica is Kotonoha, the [[Tall, Dark and Bishoujo]] [[The Ojou|Ojou]] who's shy but extremely popular among the boys because of her looks. Then both of them reveal [[Yandere (disambiguation)|surprising sides]] to their characters...
** [[Playing with a Trope|Not really]], Sekai has Betty looks but Veronica personality (being a straightforward girl who uses [[Fan Service with a Smile]] in her part-time work) while Kotonoha's Veronica looks conceal her ''very'' Betty-ish behavior (shy, sheltered, target of abuse from other girls who are jealous of her beauty and wealth). Then again, [[It Gets Worse]] ''really'' soon.
* In ''[[Shakugan no Shana]]'', Kazumi Yoshida is the Betty and Shana the Veronica.
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* In ''Psychic Academy'', this is played quite obviously through the Betty-esque Orina (AKA Sara), Ai's childhood friend, and the Veronica-esque Mew.
* In ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' (particularly the manga), Anzu Mazaki is shown being torn over her feelings between shy [[Covert Pervert]] Yugi Mutoh (Betty) and his darker alter ego Yami (Veronica).
* Melfina from ''[[Outlaw Star]]'' gets an inverted version of this with Gene and Harry. Of course, when the "safe" choice is a foul-mouthed [[Badass Longcoat]], you just ''know'' the "bad boy" is [[Psycho for Hire|going to]] [[Stalker with a Crush|have some]] [[Yandere (disambiguation)|serious issues]].
* Possibly lampshaded in ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]''. To Spike there isn't much choice between Julia, (his long lost [[Love Interest]]), and Faye, ([[Ms. Fanservice]]) as he's madly in love with Julia and things with Faye never go beyond a proto-[[UST]] stage. However it's somewhat telling that when Jet asks [[Broken Bird]] Faye what Julia was like, Faye responds with "[[Femme Fatale|Ordinary. A beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you can't leave alone]]", which perhaps defines the roles of the two.
* The Kuno/Akane/Pig-Tailed Girl triangle of ''[[Ranma ½]]'' is an interesting case. You could say Akane is the Veronica trying to be the Betty and Ranma is the other way around, but we're talking about the warped mind of Tatewaki Kuno here.
** Akane's somewhat sheltered and naive due to being the youngest child in a middle-to-high-class and very traditional family. Well, at the same time, she's rather popular at school, shuns the boys who chase after her (specially Kuno), has a quick temper towards Ranma and despite her tries has very few traditionally feminine traits. These are all Veronica-ish qualities/flaws, so Kuno is somewhat right with this one.
** Shampoo a [[Supreme Chef]], works full-time in her grandma's restaurant, and can be almost kittenish when she's happy (pun intended). Also added is that she came from a lower-class setting than Akane, is a lot smarter than she looks, and is also multi-talented. She also pines after Ranma. That's quite a dosage of Betty-ness.
** [[Playing with a Trope|You can argue it both ways though.]] Akane is very [[Nice Girl|kind-hearted and nice]] when not being upset, and often stands up for others even if it brings her problems. And while Shampoo can cook and can be very demure around Ranma, but most of the time she's [[Tsundere]] bordering on [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] and can be very manipulative and even cruel, like with Mousse ''and'' sometimes to Ranma himself. Shampoo also has an exotic quality, and her sexiness is sometimes played up too, especially compared to Akane who is a tomboy who attempts to be more feminine. So in this sense Akane may be the Betty instead.
** This becomes transparent when she's placed in contrast with Kodachi, whose upperclass lifestyle makes her a full-on Veronica, what with the [[Mad Love]] she feels towards Ranma pushing her to the point of being an active would-be [[Murder the Hypotenuse|hypothenuse murderer]].
** Although this being an [[Unwanted Harem]] situation, it's not so much about Ranma being torn about which one to choose (though he is attracted to both girls, he feels much more attracted to [[No Guy Wants to Be Chased|Akane]]), but torn because he's engaged against his will to both women (Akane being an [[Arranged Marriage]], Shampoo an [[Accidental Marriage]]) and rejecting one in favor of the other [[Pillars of Moral Character|would bring lots of trouble for the THREE of them]]. This triangle also includes a [[Third Option Love Interest]], in the form of [[Unlucky Childhood Friend]] and [[Bokukko]], [[Childhood Marriage Promise|Ukyo Kuonji]].
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* ''[[Urusei Yatsura]]'' has [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|Shinobu]] as Betty and [[Clingy Jealous Girl|Lum]] as Veronica [[This Is Your Premise on Drugs|(LSD version)]].
* ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'', with its [[Loads and Loads of Characters]], gets ''lots'' of [[Love Triangle]] [[Triang Relations|combinations]] set up in fanworks that deliberately invoke this dynamic. Even the most canon-supported ones have been played with by fans to ''extensive'' degrees:
** For the potential Austria-Hungary-Prussia triangle, fanworks will either depict it as Hungary having to choose between the [[Neat Freak|straightlaced]], [[White Prince|gentlemanly]] Austria and the [[Wild Child|free-spirited]], [[Hot-Blooded]] Prussia or Austria having to choose between the [[Cute Bruiser|tough-as-nails]] but ultimately [[Badass Adorable|sweet and dependable]] Hungary and [[Blood Knight|the much wilder and less predictable]] Prussia. In both cases, fanworks are about evenly split on whether the Betty or Veronica wins. [[
*** And now that [[Black Magic|Romania]] has appeared, fandom is shaping him up as a potential [[Third Option Love Interest]] du to being [[The Rival]] to Hungary.
** Canon-wise, Japan has a choice between [[Sleepyhead|sleepy]], [[Nice Guy|laidback]] [[Kindhearted Cat Lover]] Greece and [[Mask of Power|masked]], [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|rough-talking]] [[Boisterous Bruiser]] Turkey. However, unlike with the Austria-Hungary-Prussia triangle, virtually all fanworks featuring this triangle agree that the Veronica [[Hopeless Suitor|has no chance against the Betty]] - and, in fact, actually has a better chance of ''[[Foe Yay|ending up with the Betty]]'' than with the Archie! All of which leads to the ''real'' Betty and Veronica dynamic at work in fandom being whether Greece should be paired with [[Moe|cute]], [[Inscrutable Oriental|emotionally]] [[Yamato Nadeshiko|reserved]], and [[He Is Not My Boyfriend|romantically shy]] Japan who's already [[Birds of a Feather|good friends with him]] or [[Sensitive Guy and Manly Man|manly]], [[I Shall Taunt You|openly critical]], and [[Sitcom Arch Nemesis|aggressive]] Turkey who [[Foe Yay|passionately hates him]].
** And then there's the [[Comedic Sociopathy]]-filled Baltic-Slav [[All Love Is Unrequited|Unrequited]] [[Love Triangle]], where Russia plays a [[The Fake Cutie|rather]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|psychotic]] Archie who has the [[Yamato Nadeshiko|kind and gentle]] [[The Woobie|Lithuania]] as his Betty, whereas [[Brother-Sister Incest|his sister]] [[Elegant Gothic Lolita|Belarus]] is a [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] Veronica, with [[Bishonen|China]] ''and'' [[Team Mom|Ukraine]] as potential [[Third Option Love Interest|Third Option Love Interests]] (Russia ''has'' stalked him a couple of times, and Ukraine is the one Russia shows his [[Pet the Dog|dere]] side more often to...).
** And just in case your head isn't spinning enough yet, there are ''numerous'' [[Fanon]] combinations of other characters with many of them bouncing back and forth between the Betty and Veronica roles depending on who their designated romantic rival is. To list all of them would take up half of this page, especially since this fandom is ''way'' more prone to [[
* ''[[Strawberry Panic!|Strawberry Panic]]'' has two of these [[Schoolgirl Lesbians]] triangles: Nagisa with [[Fan of Underdog|Tamao]] as the Betty and [[Onee-Sama|Shizuma]] as the Veronica, and Hikari with [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|Yaya]] as the Betty and [[Bifauxnen|Amane]] as the Veronica.
* ''[[Death Note]]'' has Misa as Betty and Takada as Veronica when it comes to Light.
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* ''[[Vampire Knight]]'': Yuuki has Kaname (The Prince) and [[My Hero Zero|Zero]] (The Bad Boy).
** However, the roles could potentially be switched. Zero is her [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|"safe, comfortable friend"]], while Kaname is the exotic one that she believes she literally can't have.
* ''[[Rosario
** Complicating matters are other potential Veronicas or Cheryls: [[An Ice Person|Mizore]], [[Child Prodigy|Yukari]] and {{spoiler|inner Moka}}.
* In ''[[Peach Girl]]'', Momo spent years with a crush on the chivalrous and polite Toji, until she finally gets him. They guy helping her out on the way is [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|Kairi]], a [[Chivalrous Pervert|lecherous]], school-skipping bad boy she discovers she now has feelings for. Throughout the series she bounces back and forth between them, until finally {{spoiler|she ends up with Kairi}}.
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** Another example had a competition between Luann's brother Brad (Betty) and Dirk (Veronica) for the affections of Toni. {{spoiler|Brad won.}}
* The comic adaptation of ''[[Captain N: The Game Master]]'' had Princess Lana as the Betty, while the Veronica was none other than ''[[Metroid|Samus Aran]]''.
* ''[[Sleeper (Comic Book)|Sleeper]]'' has a version of this with the main character Holden Carver, his former government coworker Veronica (Betty), and supervillain Gretchen/Miss Misery (Veronica). The end result is a truly spectacular and accidental {{spoiler|[[Murder the Hypotenuse]], with Veronica shooting Gretchen, thinking she was about to kill Holden, and Holden reflexively shooting Veronica dead. He then had an experimental surgery to cure his condition that left him in a vegetative state, with his superior creating a little mental world for him where he lives on a beach with both Veronica ''and'' Gretchen, making this a rare canononical quasi-[[
* ''[[Lanfeust]]'' is a textbook example with the hero's fiancee Ci'an (the Betty) and her troublesome yet alluring twin sister Cixi (the Veronica). Note that the two are TWINS: gentle, proper Ci'an packs a mean right when angered, while sex-obsessed Cixi sometimes shows a softer heart than her sister, sometimes inverting their role. {{spoiler|He ends up with Cixi after she [[Took a Level In Badass|becomes totally awesome]]. Well, even more [[Most Common Superpower|totally awesome]]. Lanfeust and Ci'an actually split up before that due to Ci'an falling for the finally grown up [[Knight in Shining Armor|Or-Azur]] while Lanfeust realized he couldn't provide her with the stable life she aspired to.}}
* Another ''X-Men'' example is ''[[Generation X]],'' where [[Bald Black Leader Guy]] Everett's affections was one of ''many'' things spunky Jubilee (Betty) and beautiful, classy Monet (Veronica) butted heads over.
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* Male version as well in ''[[Grey's Anatomy]]'': For a little while, Meredith (Archie) hesitates between dark haired McDreamy Derek (more of a Veronica) and the nice McVet Finn (a complete Betty).
* In Hong Kong comedy drama ''To Catch The Uncatchable'', female lead Vivi was torn between choosing between her sweet, handsome but dull and clueless personal trainer Jim and Detective Mok, who's snarky, smart and enjoys teasing Vivi but incredibly loyal and always helps her out in a tight spot. She [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshades]] to Detective Mok at one point, comparing the two to food. Jim was a plain tofu while Detective Mok was a tofu with more filling.
* While it never comes up as a matter of potential relationships the character dynamic is still in full swing and played straight in ''[[That '70s Show]]'' with literal the girl-next-door Donna (Betty) and Jackie (Veronica).
* ''[[Mad Men]]'' has shown instances of two such pairings. At work is the non-relationship version with simple, hardworking Peggy (Betty, or Mary Ann, if you prefer) contrasted to sultry, flirtatious Joan (Veronica, or [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Ginger]]). Outside of the office Don Draper's relationships tend to follow this pattern as well with wife Betty being cut more from the Veronica mold (cold, emotionally distant, former model) while most of Don's mistresses are typically more Betty-like.
* ''[[Lost Girl]]'' has a bisexual version with female succubus Bo (Archie) having to choose between Dyson (werewolf and Veronica) and Lauren (human and Betty). {{spoiler|That's at the start. Lines become more blurred as the season progresses}}
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* "The Boy is Mine" by Brandy and Monica. While this isn't explicit in the song itself, if you look at the ladies' individual musical styles, Brandy is more a sweet girl-next-door while Monica has more of a street edge.
* The video clip of Avril Lavigne's ''Girlfriend'' depicts Avril (as the Veronica) convincing the Archie to leave his uptight Betty girlfriend for her more interesting, more bullying self. Veronica wins.
* [[Paul and Storm]]'s "More Than Two" mentions the Trope Namers and [[Take a Third Option|Takes A]] [[
* Bryan Adams's "Run To You." The Archie sings about cheating on his Betty-esque girlfriend with his Veronica.
{{quote|''"She's got a heart of gold, she'd never let me down/ But you're the woman who always turns me on, you keep me comin' 'round."''}}
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** The sequel adds John Rolfe as a new Betty, though John Smith is largely absent anyway. In the end, Pocahontas follows the history books in winding up with John {{spoiler|Rolfe}}.
* In ''[[The Fairly Odd Parents]]'', [[Ugly Cute|Tootie]] is the Betty and [[Alpha Bitch|Trixie]] is the Veronica to Timmy Turner's Archie.
** Ironically, the character who is actually ''named'' Veronica (and [[Third Option Love Interest|has a crush on Timmy too]]) was sidelined pretty quickly. Probably because she was a [[Yandere (disambiguation)|nutcase who wanted to take Trixie's place in Timmy's affections]].
* ''[[Ace Lightning]]'' has Heather and Sam who both date Mark at one point or another and have seemingly conflicting personalities and yet are best friends. Kind of like the [[Archie Comics|original]] Betty and Veronica, really.
* ''[[The Spectacular Spider-Man]]'' has [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|Gwen Stacy]] as the Betty, similar to some of her comic book presentations, but it is [[Lovable Alpha Bitch|Liz Allen]] who is given the status of the Veronica whom Peter goes out with first. Mary Jane only fits the Veronica role for a quick bit of [[Ship Tease]]--she went on one blind date with Peter, but during the first and second seasons at least she doesn't harbor much serious interest in him [[Just Friends|other than as a friend]]. Whether this would have changed if [[Too Good to Last|the show had continued]] is unknown.
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* [[Robbie the Reindeer]] has Donna (kind, sensible and voiced by Jane Horrocks) as Betty and Vixen (who lives up to her name) as Veronica.
* In ''[[Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas]]'', you have Marina, who is [[Arranged Marriage|engaged to be married]] to Proteus (the Betty), but develops [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|a romantic interest]] in his old roguish friend Sinbad (the Veronica). While she may not have been IN LOVE with Proteus, she cared about him enough to go with Sinbad to ensure that he retrieves the Book of Peace from Eris so that Proteus won't have to die for his screw-up. {{spoiler|In the end, when Proteus realizes that Marina loves Sinbad, [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|he privately breaks off the engagement and lets her leave Syracuse with Sinbad and his crew.]] }}
* ''[[Adventure Time]]'' has the [[A Worldwide Punomenon|sweet]] [[Hot Scientist|scientist]] Princess Bubblegum as the Betty and the [[Chaotic Neutral|radical]] [[The Power of Rock|musician]] Marceline the Vampire Queen as the Veronica to [[The Hero|Finn's]] Archie. However, things get a little more complicated with the introduction of the [[Tsundere|quick]]-to-[[Yandere (disambiguation)|anger]] Flame Princess as the [[Third Option Love Interest|Cheryl Blossom]].
* ''[[The Legend of Korra]]'' puts [[Tall, Dark and Snarky|Mako]] in the Archie position, choosing between [[Blood Knight|Korra]] (the Veronica) and [[Spoiled Sweet|Asami]] (the Betty). Interestingly, a lot of the traits usually associated with each side are swapped around; ie. Asami is the richer, more traditionally beautiful one, while Korra is naive and from the country.
* In ''[[King of the Hill]]'', Nancy Hicks-Gribble has been carrying on an affair with Veronica, John Redcorn, while married to her [[Crazy Survivalist]] husband Dale (the Betty).
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