39,327
edits
Bleach/Headscratchers/Hollows: Difference between revisions
m
Mass update links
(clean up) |
m (Mass update links) |
||
Line 198:
* Is Barragan a Vasto Lorde class Hollow, then? Judging from chapter 371, his release form and original Hollow form are pretty much identical, and before he became an arrancar he appeared to be the most powerful Hollow around. Of course, at this point, it seems as though the Hollow classes have kinda been forgotten about entirely...
** I think that he was just a very powerful Adjuchas class Hollow. I think the only Vasto Lordes are Wonderweiss, and maybe Starrk, but that is a big maybe.
*** There's a good case to be made for Ulquiorra and higher being Vasto Lorde(not counting [[Ass Pull|Yammy]] into this). What we know about the Vasto Lorde is that they are "stronger than an average captain". We know that Ichigo is captain strength. He got utterly curb-stomped by Ulquiorra(before Uber-Hollow form) - so he fits the bill of being more powerful than a captain(if we assume that Ichigo's Hollowification and Ulquiorra's Shinigamification essentially cancel each other out, then what we're left with is a comparison of Ichigo's Shinigami power and Ulquiorra's Hollow power). The ones above them fit the bill as well - Barragan couldn't be brute force killed by a captain AND a vizard-kido master. Hitsugaya landed, at best, a few scratches on Harribel and [[
** It's possible that he's Vasto Lorde; Grimmjow, an Adjuchas, looked like a white panther while he was a hollow and became more humanoid as an arrancar. Then again, Starrk can't remember what he used to look like, or whether he more resembled Lilynette or Starrk.
*** It would appear that they might not be Vasto Lorde after all. Based on chapter 375, it would seem that {{spoiler|Starrk is a naturally-occuring Arrancar: when Aizen met him, his mask had already been removed and Lilinette was with him (he states in 361 that she was created when he became an Arrancar).}} Barragan could have been {{spoiler|a more imperfect natural arrancar, a little bit human but not much, who was subsequently improved by Aizen. The top three could basically have been adjuchas bordering on Vasto-Lorde with some natural-Arrancar thrown in extra.}} Besides which, the top three Espada being Vasto-Lorde doesn't make much sense story-wise; Vasto-Lordes are touted as being stronger than Captains to begin with, and Shinigamification ramps up a hollow's power something chronic. Vasto-Lorde Arrancar should be godlike, so it really would be senselessly anticlimactic for Kubo to go "Oh yeah, those three dead Espada were actually the most powerful entities it's possible to have in the Bleachverse so far." Then again, considering what happened to Superchunky...
Line 255:
** This point falls apart when you realize Ichigo never tried to tell his friends about Tsukushima's ability and when Tsukushima explained it to Ichigo they were alone.
*** Subverted the bleach wiki states that if the victim begins to realize inconsistencies with Tsukishima's presence in their past, and what has actually happened, they begin to suffer mental damage
* If the Substitute Shinigami Badges are actually surveillance devices, and Ginjou is fully aware of this, [[What an Idiot!|why is he still carrying his around?]]
** He probably had it hacked somehow or other to turn that off.
* Why didn't Tsukushima just use his ability on Ichigo instead of wasting all of that time and effort trying to gain his trust through normal means? And if Soul Society knew about Ginjou, why didn't they tell Ichigo earlier instead of waiting until after he had gotten himself a power-up to fight him? And why not, you know, TELL Ichigo that, hey, we're working on a way to get your powers back to fight this guy, so just hang on a sec? Oh, and if Ginjou as a quasi-legitimate complaint about Soul Society, why wait until *after* he's screwed Ichigo over to tell him about it instead of before when Ichigo still might have been sympathetic enough to listen to him?
Line 279:
[[Category:Bleach Hollows]]
[[Category:Headscratchers]]
__NOTOC__[[Category:Pages with comment tags]]
| |||