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Compare [[Xenofiction]], [[Humans Are Cthulhu]], [[Humanity Is Infectious]] (all often involving this), [[Non-Malicious Monster]] (sometimes requires this), [[Above Good and Evil]], [[Affably Evil]] / [[Faux Affably Evil]] (they sometimes can come across as this), [[Even Evil Has Standards]] (when handled poorly or bizarrely), and [[Evil Cannot Comprehend Good]] (less elaborate forms that resemble this in practice). When two sides go to war and nothing will stop them except total annihilation, that's [[Guilt-Free Extermination War]].
Has nothing to do with Bucknell University, The University of Illinois, The University of Virginia, The University of Florida, Auburn University, Syracuse University, Hope College, Gettysburg College, or Boise State University (the colors of all of which are blue and orange, albeit different shades in each case). Nor the Denver Broncos, Chicago Bears, New York Knicks, New York Mets, or [[Memetic Mutation|Mango Sentinels]]. Or the City of New York, for that matter. Furthermore, do not confuse with [[Orange-Blue Contrast|Blue And Orange Movies]]. Also has nothing to do with the [[Karma Meter]] in ''[[Mass Effect]]'' nor the [[Portal (
Whether it has anything to do with ''[[Main Page|us]]'' is left as an exercise for the reader.
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== Anime & Manga ==
* The Angels from ''[[
** Especially Kaworu. By appearances, he comes off as simply [[Ambiguously Gay]] for Shinji, but things become more complicated when you realize that he doesn't seem to conform to human definitions of love or sexuality. He also seems to have a genuine admiration and respect for humanity and its achievements, despite attempting to cause [[The End of the World
** [[All There in the Manual|A lot of Kaworu's traits come from]] Mark Twain's "''[[The Mysterious Stranger]].''" See below. It's where we get moments like [[Fan Nickname|Evil Manga Kaworu]].
** It should be noted that a definite angel is said to have "Blood Type Blue", while an ambiguous Angel has "Blood Type Orange". Take from that what you will.
* Guu of ''[[Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu|Haré+Guu]]'', essentially a [[Trickster Archetype]]. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to her actions: she's just as likely to torment Haré as rescue him from mortal danger by summoning godlike powers, all the while seeming casual and uncaring. Her inscrutable agenda makes it pretty much impossible to pinpoint her [[Character Alignment]].
** She loves to act like she's giving Haré an [[Aesop]], but always subverts it completely in the end.
* {{spoiler|Claire Stanfield}} from ''[[
** {{spoiler|Ronnie Suchiart}} is just as likely to incite a massacre as he is to follow a man for two-hundred years just to give him some company. The only answer he's ever given for his motivations is that he's [[Time Abyss|very old]], [[Eldritch Abomination|very powerful]], and [[It Amused Me|very bored]].
* {{spoiler|Ryoko Asakura}} (an "integrated data entity" disguised as a human) in ''[[
* The Pillar Men in ''[[Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure
* Vampires in ''[[
* The more intelligent mushi of ''[[Mushishi]]'' behave this way. The mushi's form of life is so alien from our own that 'good' and 'bad' may mean completely different things to us and them. For example, in the very first episode the mushi lure a young girl out to the forest for a feast, during which they tell her that they want her to watch over her future grandson. Ginko is also quite ambiguous as to whether the mushification of said girl would've been better off botched or properly completed.
* This plays a large role in ''[[Heroic Age]]'', in which the "Iron Race" (humanity) doesn't understand the values of the "Silver Race" that is warring against them, especially considering that they are [[Straw Vulcan|Straw Vulcans]] who reject/transfer emotions to a few chosen individuals. The [[Poor Communication Kills|lack of understanding]] that {{spoiler|the SR have no emotional attachments (to home planets) while humanity does}}, causes the SR to wonder why the humans would try to take back their home planet and then try to conquer the homes of the [[Mooks|"Bronze Race"]] and SR, and {{spoiler|causes the human military to attack what they assumed was a well defended BR home world when it was a [[Kick the Dog|weakly defended mass nursery]], and attack the SR homeworld which was mostly abandoned, opening themselves up for an ambush}}.
* Black Hanekawa chides Koyomi from ''[[
* ''[[
* Kyubey of ''[[
* ''[[
** [[The Hero|Gon]] [[Friend to All Living Things|Freecs]] has distinct shades of this. He isn't [[The Unfettered]], because he is guided by a strong sense of right and wrong, but as the counterfeiter he hangs out with finally realizes, "He doesn't care about the good and the bad." Mostly it's enough to peg him as [[Chaotic Good]], but that doesn't really do him justice. Neither the readers nor the other characters can really predict where his moral sense will take him, and he surprises the hell out of even his best friend (a child assassin) a lot. Notable events include:
** A serial killer once trained him and Killua, and he cheerfully allowed the person to go free afterward even after it was pointed out that this would cause more young women to get eaten, because "he helped us."
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** The Chimera Ants enter this territory from time to time, as well. Though they're largely just evil.
*** Although most of the ants are evil and some are good, the king, Meryem, is a master of this trope. All the experiences he goes through continually shape his moral code which fluctuates wildly through the arc, turning him from what appears to be a Cell ripoff into one of the most deep and interesting villains in Shonen manga. And yet he always seems to have his code stuck somewhere in the Blue and Orange territory.
* Togashi makes allusions to this in ''[[
* Togashi ''loves'' this trope -- the Prince in ''[[Level E]]'' is similarly inscrutable, and even his compatriots and relatives often fails to understand whether he's really ''this'' different, or just a [[Jerkass]] [[Troll]].
* Mercurians in ''[[Gunnm]]'' are the descendants of the [[Nano Machine]] plague left on the planet by a terrorist half a millennium ago. They've since developed into the civilization so utterly alien to the humanity's way of thinking that their ''ambassador'' (or at least the entity supposed to contact the Solar System at large) turned out to be a 20 meter tall killing machine with a phallic-shaped [[Wave Motion Gun]] in the right place. Fortunately there ''[[World of Badass|were]]'' places where such "[[Ass in Ambassador|Ambassadors]]" could be dealt with.
* ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam 00
* Yuuko from ''[[
* While there are plenty of fans that would love to simply write him off as evil, Mayuri Kurotsuchi of ''[[
* Kimblee in the ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' manga and second anime has an odd code which seems to consider holding true to your role or principles the most important thing, irrespective of their conventional morality. He criticizes soldiers for being reluctant to massacre defenseless people, but expresses admiration for the Rockbells for their determination to save lives (of the ''same people'' the soldiers were killing) as doctors. He sides with the homunculi because they give him freedom to practice his [[Stuff Blowing Up|alchemy]] without restriction, but claims to be primarily interested in who'll win the conflict between them and humans. In the end he {{spoiler|saves Ed from a [[Grand Theft Me]] by Pride because he's repelled by Pride abandoning his claims of superiority as a homunculus to merge with a human to save himself.}}
* In the [[Liaden Universe]] books by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller:
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== Card Games ==
* [[Eldritch Abomination|The Eldrazi]] from ''[[Magic:
{{quote| "Have you ever killed insects nibbling at your crops? I think that's what the Eldrazi believe they're doing to us." -- ''Shrivel'' flavor text}}
** The game has also been [[Retool|retooling]] ''some'' of the [[Too Dumb to Live]] of its goblins into Blue And Orange Morality about personal wellbeing.
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== Comics ==
* For some wacky reason, nobody gets [[Deadpool|my moral code]]. Some people say it's 'cuz I'm [[Crazy Awesome|nuts]].
* [[
* Galactus was originally intended to be one of these. More recent interpretations have put more into a [[Above Good and Evil]] territory, with varying reasons for his planet devouring ways.
* The Harlequinade, in ''[[The Invisibles]]''.
* [[The Enigma]] in the comic of the same name.
* One of the ''Eternals'' books invokes this, a bit mixed with [[Beyond Good
* Dr. Manhattan of ''[[Watchmen (
* ''Supergod'' by [[Warren Ellis]] imagines a world where super powered beings essentially live by this trope, because they're so far removed from human values and experience that their resulting morality simply cannot be expressed in human terms. [[It Got Worse|This ends]] [[The End of the World
* One early appearance of [[Doctor Strange]]'s extradimensional enemy [[Eldritch Abomination|Dormammu]] portrayed him this way, with Doc realizing Dormammu did have a bizarre and alien sense of honor which Doc could use to his advantage once he understood it.
* The Endless of [[Neil Gaiman]]'s ''[[The Sandman]]'' show this at times, and at others are utterly human. Plus, each character's personality lends them different ways of dealing with the world. Dream shows this multiple times, such as not punishing a creature which dominates others dreams to create a 'nest' because it is simply acting in its own nature. Death never (well, almost never) interferes with the natural demises of anything, no matter how much she likes the individual and Destiny knows when catastrophic events will occur, and will only summon the others for a meeting about said catastrophes if his book says he does.
* In the ''[[Babylon
== Fan Works ==
* Used often in ''[[Aeon Natum Engel (Fanfic)|Aeon Natum Engel]]'', especially with the Migou and their greater view of the universe.
* In ''[[The Return (
* Very prominent in the ''[[
** Given an in-nation [[Shout-Out]] when an opposing faction of Air Nomads show up - their robes are blue in contrast to the saffron worn by Aang as a Temple monk.
* In ''[[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers
* NewChaos from ''[[
* Mao from ''[[Code Geass: Mao of the Deliverance
* In the ''[[Invader Zim]]'' fic "[[
* The main characters in ''[[
* In 'Eye Of The Fox,' Kira's methods or the revel he takes in causing pain to others may be strange to a 'normal' person, he, as a half-demon, sees this as acceptable punishment to people who have wronged him.
* In The [[Mega Crossover]] [[Fanfic|fan]][[Web Comic|comic]] ''[[Roommates 2007
* ''[[
== Films -- Animation ==
* The Halloween people from ''[[
{{quote| "Life's no fun without a good scare."}}
** It's debatable how canon this is (for obvious reasons), but in the ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' series, Jack tends to think of new experiences (such as the Heartless) in terms of how he can repurpose them into new Halloween surprises, but also tends to become quite disillusioned with them if it should ever come to light that it can actually cause people harm ([[Evil Is Not a Toy|such as, again, the Heartless]]).
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== Films -- Live-Action ==
* The [[Starfish Aliens|Mi-Go]] from the 2011 [[Adaptation Expansion|adaptation]] of ''[[Lovecraft
* The Firstborn, the aliens who built the monoliths from ''[[2001: A Space Odyssey]]''. The way the books put it:
{{quote| ''And because, in all the Galaxy, they had found nothing more precious than Mind, they encouraged its dawning everywhere. They became farmers in the fields of stars; they sowed, and sometimes they reaped. And sometimes, dispassionately, they had to weed.''}}
* ''[[No Country for Old Men]]'': [[Complete Monster|Anton Chigurh]] is described as having a set of rules that make sense to nobody but him. You get some small idea of his moral code in the gas station scene early on in the film where the store manager tries to make light conversation with him. It's revealed that the manager married the daughter of the former owner of the premises and this visibly irritates Chigurh ("You ''married'' into it"). He forces the shop owner to flip a coin to save his life for no exact reason. Later, when he makes good on his promise to kill the main character's wife, he allows her the same coin flip to save her life. She tries to argue with him, but doesn't seem to get anywhere.
* Jeff Bridges plays a very disturbing serial killer in a little known 1993 remake of a 1988 Dutch film called ''[[The Vanishing]]''. In the film, he describes how he saved his daughter from drowning, believing that this act earned her adoration. He then decides that he is unworthy of his daughter's love unless he proves to be capable of performing an equal act of evil.
* Another Jeff Bridges role is CLU from ''[[Tron
* ''[[The Mothman Prophecies]]''
{{quote| '''Leek:''' You're asking for an explanation for something that can't be explained rationally. You know the buildup of energy before something happens? The way your hair stands up before lightning strikes?<br />
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== Literature ==
* [[The Fair Folk]] often are shown as practicing this, especially in modern (or very old) renditions. Good examples are found in the works of [[Neil Gaiman]] (such as ''[[The Sandman]]'' or ''[[The Books of Magic]]'') and ''[[Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell]]''.
** The Sidhe of ''[[
*** Lea especially falls into this, as she wants to turn Harry into a hound {{spoiler|because she genuinely thinks it would be the best way to protect him. She made a promise, in fact.}}
** While on the [[Neil Gaiman]] track, God in "Murder Mysteries."
{{quote| '''Raguel:''' ''(to God)'' Everything happens for a reason, and all of the reasons are yours.}}
*** For that matter, something similar came up in ''[[
** The Aelfinn and Eelfin ("snakes" and "foxes") in ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' series, another variation of [[Fair Folk]], are described like this: not even really evil, but so alien that they might as well be.
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* ''[[Perdido Street Station]]'': The Weavers don't have a sense of morality as we would understand it, but rather a sense of beauty. That which is aesthetically pleasing or poetically appropriate to the Worldweave is [[Beauty Equals Goodness|"good"]] whereas that which is [[Evil Makes You Ugly|ugly]] or discordant is "bad." They can also disagree with one another and their aesthetic sense is incomprehensible to people. The humanlike races are deeply uncomfortable dealing with them because Weavers are so utterly unpredictable; they might help you, but they're just as likely to messily shred you and arrange your guts in a pattern that pleases them.
* The ancient race in Robert E. Howard's ''[[Conan the Barbarian|Queen of the Black Coast]]'' are said to have existed on a level of good incomprehensible to human morality before [[Fallen Hero|sinking to a level of evil]] likewise.
* Atevi in [[
** [[
* While the Otherness in the ''[[Repairman Jack]]'' novels is a fairly standard [[Eldritch Abomination]] or group thereof, what exactly motivates the Ally to oppose it is very uncertain.
* The Third Men in ''[[Last and First Men]]'' are essentially a [[Planet of Hats|species of esthetes]]. At one point their entire world was dominated by an empire based on ''music.'' Their final civilization was obsessed with biological manipulation: one faction used to breed ever more powerful diseases and parasites on the grounds that when a "higher" lifeform is slain by a virus, it has a certain ironic beauty.
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*** A few other tidbits: they can't fathom hate or dislike anyone or thing with more than a "mild distaste," this is because they devote so much time to understanding things that they can never truly hate it. Also, they see no wrong in obliterating planetary civilizations if, after centuries of contemplation, they decide it necessary, as they did with the fifth planet in our solar system. No, not Jupiter, the planet that is now ''the asteroid belt''.
** Martians in ''[[Double Star]]'' have a highly complex system of politeness. The main problem of the book is that a politician {{spoiler|may be late}} to a ceremony that inducts him into a Martian clan. There is a legend on Mars about a young Martian who was late to something important, and the consequence of this is ''death''. He was given a second chance, on account of being young and having only a partially formed brain. He would have none of it, so he brought a case against himself in court, successfully prosecuted himself for being late, was consequently executed, and is now held in reverence as the ''patron saint of propriety'' on Mars.
** In ''[[Space Cadet (
** In ''[[Glory Road (
*** She's also horrified to find out that Oscar turned down the sexual advances of their host's daughter and wife the night before. While he thought he was protecting the sanctity of his host's home and family by not taking advantage of the man's family, their host was so insulted that he turned down their gift that he expelled them from his home at first light.
** In [[
* ''[[Catch
* This is basically the way the [[Cosmic Horror|Cosmic Horrors]] of [[
** That's no so much Flanderization as it is [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Nyarlathotep even in Lovecraft's works was shown to at least understand the fundamental differences between the [[Eldritch Abomination|Old Ones]] and humans (something the other Old Ones didn't.) Depending on the depiction he was either apathetic, mischievously amused, or outright antagonistic about this fact.
** "The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom."
** The [[Starfish Aliens|Mi-Go]] from ''The Whisperer In Darkness'' consider it a ''reward'' to extract your brain, [[Brain In
** The [[Starfish Aliens|Elder Things]], on the other hand, are a massive subversion. They are by far one of the most bizarre species to come out of Lovecraft's mind, but their interests, desires, and needs are readable enough that a human can piece together their history from the bas-reliefs they used to decorate their houses. One of the people studying their ruins calls them "men of a different kind", despite their vastly different physiology and being long-vanished before the first ape hit another with a sharp rock.
* The sphinxes who guard the first gate in ''[[The Neverending Story (
** In the film, the gnome states that the sphinxes strike those who do not feel their own worth.
* The Elohim from the ''[[Chronicles of Thomas Covenant]]'' straddle this and [[Above Good and Evil]]; since they are Earthpower incarnate and able to see and understand nearly everything they frequently act in ways that are incomprehensible to us mere mortals. To top it off, they also tend to say that anyone who isn't an Elohim can't even think about judging them and their actions. Bastards.
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* [[Sergey Lukyanenko]]'s ''[[Genome]]'' trilogy features Brownies, aliens whose behavior is completely insane by human standards.
** Lukyanenko absolutely ''loves'' this trope and uses it whenever possible. For example, in one of his first major works, ''The Lord from the Planet Earth'' trilogy, there were Fangs -- a race of aliens who basically judged anything by its [[Beauty Equals Goodness|''aesthetics''.]] So, upon learning the [[War Is Glorious]] trope from humans, they basically though that humans would be good sports and immediately went to war. When they found (from the main character, incidentally) that humans ''also'' think that the [[War Is Hell]], they were utterly dumbfounded by such seemingly schizophrenic (to them) thinking. And that's just the ''least'' bizarre example.
* The various magical creatures of the ''[[Harry Potter (
** Regarding the centaurs: People in-universe know why they chose "beast" classification--they did not approve of sharing "being" classification with Dark creatures like vampires and hags. The centaurs understand the laws and social codes of humans, they just don't agree with them and follow their own rules.
** Also, I think centaurs would be offended by the notion that magical beasts are inferior to or less intelligent than those other, more humanoid magical beings. For the same reason that some animal rights activists get annoyed by the common assumption that humans are superior to animals (because they might just be intelligent in a completely different way, or have physical skills humans lack), except that centaurs are part-horse, so they would take this assumption way more personally.
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** In the Second Wizarding War, the two factions are able to gain allies among magical creatures by appealing to their [[Blue and Orange Morality]]. For example, the giants end up allying with the Death Eaters not out of any real animosity toward Muggles or Muggle-borns compared to other witches and wizards, but because the Death Eaters promise them freedom and equality if their regime succeeds.
*** That hardly seems to count as 'appealing to their [[Blue and Orange Morality]]', more a case of [[Grey and Gray Morality|White and Grey AND Gray Morality]]: sure, the Death Eaters may believe in wizard domination of muggles and the evilness of interbreeding, but they're nicer to the giants' reasonable requests than most wizards are.
* [[Sufficiently Advanced Alien|The Ellimist]] from ''[[
** The microscopic Helmacrons also come across as this. Their two ships try desperately to kill each other off, but once one ship is destroyed by the Yeerks, the other Helmacrons immediately attempt to avenge their deaths. They kill all of their leaders, because any leader who makes a mistake would have to be executed, and "This way she may be a symbol for all to admire." And the females severely oppress the males, so Cassie and Marco decide to give the males a pep talk about gender equality. When the Helmacrons next appear, it seems the Animorphs may have inadvertently started a civil war, with the males and females each trying to wipe the other out.
** Though a little bit closer to home in most of their motivations, despite being the primary villains, Yeerks consider humans to be little more than livestock - indeed, they treat their livestock better than humans treat theirs, as their hosts remain alive. Being exposed to human morality and intelligence (humans are far more intelligent than any of the other mass-Controlled species in the books, save perhaps Leerans, which the Yeerks don't use for long) drives a handful of Yeerks insane.
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** Introduced in ''[[Star Trek Ex Machina]]'' are the Shesshran, who operate somewhat differently from Humans, and most other races. They are unashamedly belligerent without apparent motive, and like shooting at things to say hello. They fantasize about killing their own children and generally behave in a bloodthirsty fashion. They're actually quite reasonable and honorable beings -- it's just that they are naturally highly individualistic predators, with strong hunting instincts. They reject all hierarchies and authority, and view the universe through the eyes of a lone predator.
** And while we're in the [[Star Trek Novel Verse]], the Pahkwa-thanh have always considered their prey animals sapient. They don't eat humanoids and "civilized" beings, not because they have an objection to it as such, but because it would be rude. Humanoids don't consider themselves part of nature; to eat them would be impolite, which Pahkwa-thanh are not. If you think you're prey, though, they'll happily eat you. The Frills are another more-or-less-friendly race that is happy to eat sapient prey. Both Frills and Pahkwa-thanh, it should be noted, are Federation members.
* In ''[[
* ''[[Quantum Gravity]]'': The premise is that humans are dealing with [[The Fair Folk]] ("Yes, I'm probably going to try to trick you. You weren't ''expecting'' that?"), [[Our Demons Are Different|Demons]] ("Everything is an art.") and [[Our Elves Are Better|Elves]] ("Allegiances are not simple." + incredible patience), and some beings which may or may not have a traditional consciousness. This is par for the course.
** One fairy comments that she prefers working in adult films with demons because their hearts are pure.
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** In ''Future Boston,'' which is set in the same universe, there's an alien called The Bishop who puts everything in three categories: sapient, food, and inedible by reasons of insanity (anything not yet proven sapient). He casually mentions how he will eat his children if they fail a test.
* The Wess'har in Karen Traviss' ''Wess'har War'' series who have no concept of a "grey area," have no interest in the concept of motivation and have two different concepts of sex, sex and ''ouran'', both of which to human eyes look like...sex. Also no concept of embarrassment. They are also natural "small c" communists with no need for a compelling authority.
* In [[Gordon R. Dickson]]'s ''The Alien Way'', there's a race with a strange "honor" code, which considers perfectly honorable to kill your mates, friends and even family members, if it helps you to gain power or opportunities to spread your genes, and the closer you are to the person killed, the more honorable the act.
* Some of the acts depicted in the ''Reynard The Fox'' fables are pretty horrific by today's standards. For example, Reynard is about to be put to death for committing numerous crimes against the other animals. But Reynard convinces the royals to let him go by playing to their greed and promising treasure. Reynard requests that two of his rivals, Isengrim and Bruin be partially skinned alive so that the fox could wear their pelts for the trip. King Noble, who is supposed to be a figure of benevolence actually grants Reynard's request.
** ''Reynard the Fox'' also contains a heaping amount of [[Carnivore Confusion]]. Though the animals are supposed to be sentient, they are depicted as being still wild and retaining their animal instincts. This makes Reynard, who kills and eats several young chicks, the animal equivalent of a baby eating anti-Christ among the other animals.
* Shows up in [[Mark Twain]]'s ''The Mysterious Stranger''. A central plot point is that angels have no concepts of good and evil because they have no original sin. Or more clearly, angels can't do right or wrong, because such ideas aren't in their nature - [[Kick the Dog|they can do things humans consider wrong]], but angels are pretty much indifferent. It ends up being fairly creepy.
** It is actually more accurate to say that the angels have never eaten from the tree of knowledge, as Adam and Eve did. Therefore they can commit sins the way humans do, but have no knowledge of what sin means and thus it is meaningless to them. It may make human morality a fair example of [[Blessed
* ''[[Warbreaker]]'''s Nightblood is a sentient weapon created with the express command to destroy evil. The problem is, a sword has no brain with which it can understand what evil actually ''is'', let alone some mystical way to [[Detect Evil]], so it just kinda guesses. The result tends to leave a lot more people dead than it ought to.
{{quote| '''Nightblood:''' I'm not evil. I destroy evil. I think we maybe we should destroy those men up ahead. They look evil.}}
* [[Dichter Und Denker|German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler claimed in his non-fiction book ''[[
* In [[Clive Barker]]'s ''The Hellbound Heart'' (which eventually became the basis for ''[[
* Human morality is very strange to treecats in the ''[[
* {{spoiler|The Enigma Race}} in ''[[The Lost Fleet]]'' demonstrate hints of this.
* A relatively mild example is [[
* The [[Intelligent Gerbil|Lodgeless]] [[Panthera Awesome|Ones]] in Marti Steussy's ''Forest of the Night'': Building a permanent shelter is a no-no. Calling someone's autobiography "boring," or accusing them of embellishing it, is fighting words. Letting your disabled child starve to death because he can't hunt is unfortunate, but not morally wrong. {{spoiler|[[Eats Babies|Eating your child's corpse]]? At least the scavengers didn't get him.}}
* In [[Harry Harrison]]'s ''The Jupiter Plague'' (AKA ''Plague from Space''), a strike team breaks into the quarantined spaceship and finds the recordings of the mission on Jupiter. They find out that the crew discovered an alien race living on the solid core of the planet. Unlike humans, the "Jovians" use biotechnology. They initially offer to talk to the humans but then proceed to slaughter most of the crew in increasingly gruesome ways. Their latest act is sending the human ship back to Earth with a genetically-engineered virus that easily jumps species and is 100% fatal. It doesn't take long for the protagonist to figure out why they behave this way. Apparently, {{spoiler|the Jovians are a [[Hive Mind]] species, where each being is but a cell in a larger organism. As such, they consider humans to be the same way, and all their murders are merely studies. After all, what's killing a few cells to a giant organism?}} It is not revealed if the Jovians finally realize the error of their ways or not. They do {{spoiler|provide humanity with a cure after they complete their study, though}}.
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* Comes up in works by M.C.A. Hogarth, who describes herself as "an anthropologist to aliens". Examples include the caste system and community-orientedness in [[Kherishdar]], or the fact that the Jokka completely separate procreation and love (which is taboo if it is between different genders).
* Chiun from ''[[The Destroyer]]'' is from a village that has fed itself through the ages by hiring out as assassins, because of this assassins are greatly respected in the village. The only target that is forbidden is children. They revere many of the great tyrants of history because they provided a lot of work and thus helped support the village. Lee Harvey Oswald's killing of President Kennedy is shameful only because he was an amateur: he was not paid for it and he used a gun instead of bare hands.
* As with many other depictions of [[The Fair Folk]], fairies and similar beings in ''[[Fablehaven]]'' have very alien concepts of morality. Several of them, for example, don't see anything wrong with killing humans just because they can, because [[We Are
* Subverted with the [[Our Elves Are Better|Marat]], [[Wolf Man|Canim]], and [[Bigfoot, Sasquatch, and Yeti|Icemen]] in the ''[[Codex Alera]]'', who are initially considered too alien to coexist with humanity in-universe, only for a good chunk of the series to involve [[The Hero]] finding common ground and building bridges with them. Played completely straight with the [[Horde of Alien Locusts|Vord]].
* A constant theme in the works of [[
** In the short story "The Moon Moth", musical virtuosity and swordsmanship are the basic virtues, money is meaningless, and everyone must wear a mask at all times. Protagonist Edwer Thissell uses this against antagonist Haxo Angmark in a beautifully absurd, yet entirely appropriate, conclusion; when Angmark desperately accuses Thissell of having kidnapped, murdered, sold children into slavery, an angry onlooker replies: "Your religious differences are of no importance. We can vouch however for your present crimes!", and {{spoiler|the crowd kills Angmark for alleged violations of local morality: trying to remove someone's mask, insolent behavior, and the like.}}
** Or as frequent Vance protagonist Magnus Ridolph wrote: "In all the many-colored worlds of the universe no single ethical code shows a universal force. The good citizen on Almanatz would be executed on Judith IV. Commonplace conduct of Medellin excites the wildest revulsion on Earth and on Moritaba a deft thief commands the highest respect. I am convinced that virtue is but a reflection of good intent."
* In [[The Otherworld]], werewolf Clay was changed at age five instead of late puberty like almost everyone else, and then left on his own for two years. As a result, his thought processes are much more wolflike. His morality centers entirely around what's best for his pack, with an afterthought of what will make his mate happy. Clay brutally tortured and murdered one werewolf threatening his pack and distributed the photographs freely to discourage others from trying, but the thought of killing people needlessly or for fun revolts him. He wouldn't stop to help an injured stranger - unless his mate was watching - but he has laid down his life multiple times without hesitation for his packmates.
* In ''None But Man'' this is the very heart of conflict between the humans and Moldaug. While humanity judges every action based on whether it is Right or Wrong, the Moldaug judge their decisions based on whether it is Respectable or Not Respectable. Earth's government is willing to capitulate completely to avoid a war, but the sheer lack of Respectability and hints of even worse acts to come from such an action would compel the Moldaug to destroy humanity.
* In ''[[
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*** Present-day John and Sarah invented the 'stop Skynet' mission, so they're able to define how that mission operates, including setting limits on killing people who might interfere with that mission. (This is compared to the 'protect John' mission, which they cannot interfere with...Cameron will do anything to protect him, period, regardless of what he wants.) However, John never ordered her to not put people in danger or to help them escape danger, just to not ''kill'' them.
** At one point, when John is surprised that a Terminator isn't cruel for cruelty's sake, Cameron points out to him that terminators aren't cruel. This applies to both Cameron herself and "evil" terminators in general, who, while utterly ruthless, don't inflict pain just for the sake of inflicting pain. While they are willing to torture humans (not usually for interrogation, but for other purposes, like hurting someone's loved ones to draw them out of hiding), the moment they determine that this will not achieve their goals they stop and utilize other tactics.
* A sideplot in ''[[
** The Vorlons and Shadows initially appear to be [[Good Is Not Nice]] and [[Always Chaotic Evil]], respectively. But really they're Lawful Blue and Chaotic Orange, essentially using the younger races as arguments in a million years-old philosophy debate on the nature of [[Order Versus Chaos]].
* The Borg in ''[[Star Trek:
{{quote| '''Locutus''': "Why do you resist? We only wish to raise the quality of life."}}
** The entity Nagilum in the episode "Where Silence Has Lease" traps the Enterprise in a strange [[Negative Space Wedgie]], kills a [[Red Shirt]], and decides to kill a good portion of the rest of the crew to fully explore the concept of death. It seems to truly have no idea that the crew might not be wild about this idea.
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* In ''[[The Original Series]]'' the non-humanoid Excalbian race provides another example; they view such concepts as "good" and "evil" as being so foreign that they decide to test them experimentally by staging a battle between representatives of the two.
* An early episode of ''Enterprise'' had the crew being continually attacked by a mystery ship for no apparent reason. T'Pol points out that not every species out there necessarily behaves in a way that would make sense to humans. They never find out what the aliens' motivation was, but they did successfully test their new weapons on them.
* ''[[
* The Head Six and Head Baltar entities of ''[[Battlestar Galactica Reimagined|Battlestar Galactica]]''. Ron Moore says that their kind are the inspiration for stories of angels ''and'' stories of demons. It's not hard to believe.
* Witness the huge discussion on the [[Angel
** Present in an early episode, "Bachelor Party", with a family of Ano-Movic. Ano-Movic demons are a very peaceful race -- formerly a violent race of nomadic demons, they blended into Western Society and gave up their more gruesome traditions. On the flip side, not all of their old customs have been abandoned -- the family seen in the episode are shown discussing the wedding plans just as easily as they discuss the ritualistic eating of the former spouse's brains. While this sounds gruesome, to the Ano-Movics, it is a gesture of love -- their belief is that by eating the brains of the old spouse of their wedded-to-be prior to the wedding, the new spouse will incorporate all of the love and affection from the previous relationship into their new marriage.
** Illyria demonstrates this to a large extent, and due to [[Humanity Is Infectious|being in a human body]] she, partly against her will, starts to feel human emotions and assimilate human values. When Wesley betrays her she's perturbed at the fact that it bothers her, as "betrayal was a neutral word in my day. As unjudged a word as water or breeze". She spends quite a lot of time trying to figure out why mortals act as they do. She describes her world view quite well to Angel:
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* The Observers from ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' get a little of this, being brains in pans who have evolved beyond the need for physical bodies (even if their brains still need to be carried around by their former bodies). Though in truth it seems more like they're just jerks who pretend like they have their own moral code to justify being jerks. Brain Guy himself explains why he serves as a medic rather than a combatant during a battle as follows.
{{quote| "My species is a race of pacifists, we only believe in killing out of personal spite."}}
* The Plokavians in ''[[
* Gosei Knight in ''[[Tensou Sentai Goseiger]]'' believes in protecting the Earth, much as the Gosei Angels do. However, their definition extends to all life forms on it, whereas his definition applies strictly to the Earth itself.
* The Observers from ''[[Fringe]]''. It's almost certain that they have ''some'' system of logic and morality guiding their decisions, but since they basically exist outside of time and their perspective on events is almost as impossible to understand as their writing, working out what's going on in their pale and hairless heads is...well, something nobody human has managed to do with complete accuracy yet.
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== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[
** Worth noting: most characters (including non-vampires) in ''[[
*** These paths are a favorite of the Sabbat (who believe they are better than humanity, and deserve to rule over them) and the Independent clans. Such alternate paths include the Path of Night (favored by the Lasombra), which penalizes them for ''not'' killing someone if it would make them look merciful; the Path of Metamorphosis (favored by the Tzimisce), which focuses on understanding change [[Body Horror|in the most disgusting ways possible]]; the Path of Paradox (favored by the Ravnos), which upholds causing chaos and breaking mortal laws as virtues; and the Path of Lilith, which teaches that wisdom comes through suffering, so suffering must be good ([[No True Scotsman|in moderation of course]]).
** ''[[
** In the [[New World of Darkness
*** [[Vampire: The Requiem
*** [[Werewolf: The Forsaken|Werewolves]] on the other hand have Harmony, how in tune they are with themselves. Since they're half spirit and part wolf, killing and eating humans is no longer so low on the sin totem pole.
*** [[Geist: The Sin Eaters
*** [[Mage: The Awakening
*** [[Changeling: The Lost
**** Their captors, [[The Fair Folk|the True Fae]], are most definitely this. They come from a world of utter chaos where everyone must strike their own stake to avoid fading into oblivion; ergo, their lives are consumed by conflict and the eternal struggle for more glory. They adopt emotions as passing fancies, but don't understand them; the book cites a True Fae falling in love with a changeling, only to snap his neck when he hesitates to pass the salt and recalling the burbling of a brook in summer when it hears the changeling's dying gurgles. Mind you, this is ''NICE'' for a True Fae. You really, really, really, really, really, [[Overly Long Gag|really, really, really, really, really]] don't want to know what "Nasty" is. Oh, and if they ever ''try'' to understand humanity, [[Evil Cannot Comprehend Good|they lose most of their power and pretty much all of their memories of Faerie]].
*** [[Hunter: The Vigil
*** [[Promethean: The Created|Prometheans]] round it out by having a nearly identical morality scale to humans... if they raise it that high. Being homunculi they start out with or can develop some very ''weird'' thought processes. Considering their goal is to become human, it's understandable.
** In the fanlines, [[Genius: The Transgression
* In ''[[Exalted]]'', [[The Fair Folk]] fall into this; at base, the unshaped (and many shaped) raksha simply have trouble comprehending that anyone else is a separate being that might not care about their agenda, and they don't see why humans are so afraid of the chaotic madness of the Wyld. Those who do comprehend humanity still tend to subscribe to alien (read: soul-eatingly dangerous) morality, but [[My Species Doth Protest Too Much|there are exceptions.]] ''Graceful Wicked Masques'' puts it best:
{{quote| ''All other characters in the '''Exalted''' setting are unique beings with their own unique Motivations, personalities and memories. A raksha is not a being like that -- not really. Instead, a raksha is actually an incoherent and incomprehensible mass of seething chaos that -- for some impenetrable reason of its own -- ''pretends'' to be a unique being with its Motivation, personality and memories. The first step in understanding and creating a raksha character is to understand that everything about that character is a deception engineered to facilitate an interaction between a shaped being of Creation and an entity so far removed from Creation as to be utterly beyond mortal comprehension.''}}
** A similar deal goes with many of the Primordials. They are, at their very core, pure, undefiled concepts, which means they have trouble understanding anything outside their purview. She Who Lives in Her Name honestly thinks everyone would be better as mindless pieces in a hierarchical machine, the Ebon Dragon can't understand why anyone would do something that ''doesn't'' hurt someone else (unless, of course, they're setting up for the inevitable betrayal), and Autochthon views innate progress and innovation as totally awesomesauce but can't possibly foresee the consequences. Adorjan has a particularly impressive case, since she's redefined her Compassion so that killing someone in an agonisingly painful fashion is, to her, a compassionate act because they're so ''quiet'' afterwards and silence is the greatest gift.
* ''[[
** And then there are the [[Eldritch Abomination|Excrucians]], who have a morality that freaks out the Nobilis. Yipe.
* In ''[[
* Some source material from ''[[Paranoia]]'' suggests that [[The Computer Is Your Friend|Friend Computer]] works on this system. Either that, or its goals are just really screwy. No one can be quite sure, and trying to be is treason.
* ''[[Warhammer 40000]]''
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* [[The Fair Folk]] in ''[[Halt Evil Doer]]'' for ''[[Mutants and Masterminds]]''. Convention has it that the Lords of Winter are the "bad guys" and the Lords of Summer the "good guys". [[Word of God]] is that convention is completely wrong -- it's just that the Lords of Summer happen to be the [[Anthropomorphic Personification]] of happy dreams and the Lords of Winter of nightmares. But that doesn't mean the Lords of Summer care about humans, or the Lords of Winter are actively malevolent. (However the current leader of the Lords of Winter is a human villain who ''is'' a straight-up bad guy.)
* The [[One-Gender Race|aurads]], in the third-party [[Dungeons and Dragons|D&D 3e]] setting ''Oathbound'', "can accept betrayal if it is explained eloquently, but might take issue at an excellent gift presented without proper ceremony."
* In the [[Dungeons and Dragons]] ''[[
== Theater ==
* There's a play called ''Blue/Orange'' that deals with this people of this sort of morality, although the name ostensibly comes from a mental disorder one of the characters has that causes him to, among other things, see the insides of oranges as blue. Not the outside, nothing else orange, just the insides.
* ''[[Cyrano De Bergerac]]'': The play show us an strange example of humans with this type of morality: The [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|Gascons]] believe that ''"Good"'' is to be [[Youth Is Wasted
== Video Games ==
* It is possible for the player to be this in any game that includes a morality system, if the player makes choices based on a line of reasoning besides good or evil. Of course, many games punish you for not being either all the way good or evil (for example, ''[[
* The [[Eldritch Abomination|Reapers]] of ''[[
** Much of the abovie is largely subverted by the ending of Mass Effect 3, in which {{spoiler|the arrival of Shepard and the culmination of his/her actions forces the AI regulating the Reapers to admit that the time has come for a different solution.}}
* Akuma in ''[[Street Fighter]]'' is often portrayed as being a dark, evil being, but he's really just got his own morality: if you best someone in a fair competition it's only honorable to give them death. He doesn't kill people like Dan who pose no threat to him, for instance.
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** Explored in the ''Ryu Final'' manga, where Akuma became what he is ''precisely'' and ''deliberately'' [[Heroic Sacrifice|so Ryu would know what became of people who lost themselves to the lust of fighting and surrendered themselves to the Dark Hadou]], and would therefore strive to become a purer breed of warrior --one who would devote himself not to the fight, but to nurturing the younger generations. He's just... ''extreme'' in his teaching methods.
** And let's not forget this priceless win quote:
{{quote| ''[[SNK vs. Capcom SVC Chaos
* In ''[[Knights of the Old Republic (
* Morgfyre of ''[[Lusternia]]'' was a [[Warrior God]] before he began [[I'm a Humanitarian|devouring other Gods]] and numerous [[Eldritch Abomination]]'s. Unable to subsume their personalities beneath his own, he instead ''adopted'' them - becoming a gestalt entity, able to think with many different minds and speak with many different voices. Consequently his train of thought can be difficult for other ''Gods'' to follow, let alone mortals.
* Depending on the writers, the Daedra of ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'' can be beyond human comprehension, ambivilently moral, or just plain evil. Some invididual Daedra have both good and bad aspects, such as Sheogorath, the Daedric God of Madness, Creativity and Artistry. Others are like Molag Bal, who is called the [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|King of Rape]] for a reason.
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* Every character in ''[[Zeno Clash]]'' exhibits this to some degree.
* None of the various factions in ''[[Thief]]'' are aiming for good or evil. The Pagans want chaos, and growing things. The City Watch wants order. The Keepers want balance. The Hammerites want their religion followed, and also want order, and hate chaos. The Mechanists want the same thing as Hammerites, but object to using wood and stone in construction and view that as a deep heresy, and hate growing things even more than Hammerites. Most of them hate each other.
* Wilhelm from ''[[
* ''[[
** [[Fantasy Kitchen Sink|Gensoukyou]] as a whole is an example of this trope, with things such as [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old|vastly extended lifespans]] and [[Non-Lethal KO|entirely non-lethal combat]] creating different standards of morality. It is completely insane to us to go out and beat people senseless because they aren't human or mess with everyone's lives because you were bored, but not to them.
** Also worth noting is that [[The Fair Folk|youkai]] of various species and ethnicity are the majority population in Gensokyo, so things like [[I'm a Humanitarian|eating humans]] (or [[Carnivore Confusion|other youkai]]) are not at all unheard of, and there have apparently been agreements on which humans are permissible to attack and eat (mainly humans who aren't in an established safe place at night).
* ''[[
** (Un?)Fortunately, the [[Eldritch Abomination|Time Devourer]] happens to be a bit more [[Omnicidal Maniac|obvious about its goals]].
** ''[[Chrono Trigger
* The Occuria, godlike entities of ''[[
* The Orz of ''[[Star Control]] 2'' are friendly enough with most anyone they meet. They are happy to form alliances and aid in battle. They also get [[Berserk Button|angry]] (or *frumple*, as they put it) enough to start a war if anyone talks about the Androsynth, for reasons unknown. A prominent but unproven theory is that they wiped out the Androsynth, again for reasons unknown. Then there's the fact that nobody ''really'' knows what they mean by *connecting*, *parties*, or *enjoying the sauce*. There are many hints in the story that these seemingly innocuous terms mask a sinister meaning. They themselves seem to fall victim to this trope: when they greet the player in deep space, they state that they don't understand why *campers* (aka us) always say "hello" when they meet each other, but they do know this makes *campers* happy, so they do it too.
** One of the theories surrounding the Orz is that they appear like individuals to us, but are in fact a single organism existing outside our universe, alone in its own dimension. This is why the Orz creatures you meet tend to call themselves "fingers", protruding into our space from *Outside*. Orz probably doesn't understand the concept of separate individuals living in the same universe, which would lead it to assume that all the creatures it meets in our universe are just fingers of another being. Therefore, to Orz it would appear as though it has met someone whose fingers keep talking to each other.
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* The [[Eldritch Abomination|Einst]] from various ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' games exist for the sole purpose of preserving the universe(s). Since human consciousness is slowly causing the entropy of existence, that means mankind has to go. However, for unspecified reasons, they've decided that simply [[Apocalypse How|wiping out humanity]] won't do, and they decide to replace it with a ''new'' human race that lacks souls and emotions, and is no longer a threat. Unfortunately, [[Humanity Is Infectious|one of their own]] [[Heel Face Turn|didn't think it could work]].
* The Strogg, the main villains of the ''[[Quake]]'' series, turn out to be motivated not by a desire for conquest, but {{spoiler|survival, as capturing humans and "Stroggifying" them is how they reproduce.}}
* Almost every powerful entity in the ''[[
** Even Erebus is debatable--as explained in [[Persona 3
* The [[Big Bad]] of ''[[
* ''[[Crysis (
* ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'' has [[The Fair Folk|elves]], who find it unthinkable to kill plants, but are perfectly okay with eating the corpses of their enemies.
** ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'' also has a set of ethics parameters that are quite easy to modify, making it simple to create a race or modify an existing one with strange moral values. Heck, even the DF ''player community'' can fall into this at times, as they frequently consider [[Video Game Cruelty Potential]] not just amusing but a mandatory part of gameplay; if you don't start gleefully butchering kittens and building giant doomsday devices out of their bones to slaughter your enemies (or dwarven nobility) at some point, you're an alarming aberration and likely to be accused of being an elf in disguise.
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== Web Comics ==
* Sam Starfall of ''[[
* In ''[[The Order of the Stick
** There's also Elan's attempt to make a decision based on the principles of [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0068.html pure Law and Chaos]:
{{quote| '''Modron:''' 100101010100010101101011!<ref>This is binary gibberish. In ASCII it would be:"_-k"</ref><br />
'''Slaad:''' Turquoise bicycle shoe fins actualize radishes greenly! }}
** If what we're told about the Snarl is true, it doesn't kill because it's malicious. In fact, it can't even understand the act of killing, because it doesn't understand orderly concepts.
* [[Mad Scientist|Sparks]] in ''[[
* ''[[Kevin and Kell]]'': The rules there are way different from ours, simply because animals are sentient. For example, Kell (a wolf) works for a corporation whose business model is hunting and killing people for use as food. She only objects to hunting species that she's related to, notably rabbits, as she might end up eating one of Kevin's relatives (she apparently ate Vern and Betty Lopear, two rabbits he knew, a while ago). [[All There in the Manual|According to the FAQ]], there are some rules regarding killing, though, as predators can only kill prey for food, and if herbivores kill, they must prove that it was in self-defense.
* Troll society in ''[[
** The [[Eldritch Abomination|Noble Circle of Horrorterrors]]. When Rose asks an oracular artifact whether the Horrorterrors are good or evil, the reply is unintelligible [[Black Speech]]. {{spoiler|Which, upon reading, causes Rose to [[Go Mad From the Revelation|go Grimdark]]--[[Dark Is Not Evil|which actually isn't as bad as it sounds]].}}
** It's eventually revealed that Troll society {{spoiler|was deliberately made that way by an [[Eldritch Abomination]].}}
* ''[[
** It's explicitly stated that [[Talking Animal|animals of the forest]] "strut and bare their teeth," because that is how animals earn respect.
** [[Trickster Archetype|Coyote]] has [[Reality Warper|amazing and terrible powers]], but uses them for [[Large Ham|his own amusement]], [[Manipulative Bastard|manipulation]], or simply out of [[It Amused Me|boredom]]. Others only guess at what his plans are because he does not think in human terms. He [[Can Not Tell a Lie|cannot lie]], but has a tendency to use [[Exact Words]] and is [[Wild Card|deadly unpredictable]]. He demonstrates this when he shows {{spoiler|the real Ysengrin}} to Antimony, nearly getting her killed. Antimony is angry with him and he reminds her that [[Trickster Mentor|tricking her taught her a lesson]], then [[Great Gazoo|Coyote]] apologizes by giving her a [[MacGuffin|gift]]. {{spoiler|And later threatens to cut off her hand if she tells anyone about it.}}
** Annie discovered that [[Golem|golems]] [http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=895 don't mind servitude], they just want to do ''something'' meaningful.
* In ''[[
{{quote| '''Shikieiki''': ... oh, you're pleading insanity.}}
* As we see in [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=137 this] ''[[VG Cats]]'' strip, Dr. Hobo has two [[Shoulder Angels]]: a [[Black and White Morality|Devil]] and a Clown.
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** Mistress Sixx is surprised at Laura's outrage at being drugged, put in bondage and forced to participate in sexual acts, since Laura had previously enjoyed participating in consentual sexual acts without bondage or drugs - not recognizing at least three differences between those cases. Apparently the author was called out on that by the readership, and was forced to make an [[Author's Saving Throw]] with Sixx apologizing for her inconsideration.
* Demons in ''[[Wapsi Square]]'' have a strict set of rules which they follow, but those rules don't match up with our ideas of right and wrong. They even specifically mentioned that evil is a human concept, not a demon one.
* A number of [[Our Monsters Are Different|"Creatures"]] in [[Dan and
* Professor Joseph Corwin in ''[[Tales Of Gnosis College]]'' shows signs of this trope. He is more than happy to lure female undergraduates into weird experiments the involve changing their state of matter or intimate contact with tentacle beasts, but he draws the line at using is technology to make duplicates of people, even when that would be handy. He’s also intensely loyal to his own subordinate.
* ''[[
** When we see the flashback of how Tedd got the transformation gun we learn a few interesting facts about Uryuom society. While it is not illegal to own a TF gun, their [http://egscomics.com/?date=2003-09-16 manufacture is prohibited] due to [http://egscomics.com/?date=2003-09-17 religious objections] to [[wikipedia:Object-oriented programming|object-oriented programming]].
** Raven's mother (sometimes called Chaos, other times called Pandora) wants to help her son out, so she begins to instigate many magical incidents, such as granting powers to unaware people leading to near-disasters when they unwittingly use them.
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* Mercenaries in various stories of the ''[[Union Series]]''. It's not about who commits massive war crimes or who plays knight in shining armor, it's more along the lines of being loyal to the original credit line versus switching sides for better pay.
* Most non-humans in [[Tales of MU]], most notably mermaids, demons, and dragons, who each have no problems eating humans. For example: {{spoiler|Ionia, a mermaid, killed another student because she was in water, making her prey. In retaliation Vice-Chancellor Embries, a greater Dragon, devoured her and enchanted the one witness so she couldn't tell anyone.}}
* According to [[The Nostalgia Chick
* The demons in [[The Salvation War]] have some rather jarring morality. Since they are still basically in the bronze age, demons have a very rigged and honor based form of warfare that hasn't changed in millions of years. Cannibalism is considered fine for demons, and not eating the dead is considered "wasting them." All this changes when humans arrive.
== Western Animation ==
* Marceline the Vampire Queen in ''[[
** Lemongrab could count as this. While he's definitely not evil, he is not a good guy (as in a hero or a nice person.) He sends everyone to the dungeon for committing petty crimes. Sometimes it's justified, and the sentence is like a reasonable time-out; only a few hours. Other times, it's a horrible case of [[Disproportionate Retribution]], and then it becomes obvious that he hasn't got all his marbles together.
* Dinobot in ''[[
* It is likely that [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic
** Discord has [[Complete Monster]] and [[For the Evulz]] tendencies to place him in the [[Chaotic Evil]] category, but, since creating chaos and disorder is his entire ''reason'' for existing, he pretty much falls under this. To him, chaos is a good thing.
** he also tries to claim moral high ground because he, unlike Celestia, would never turn another being into stone. Makes sense when you consider that a being of chaos would definitely not enjoy being trapped in a rigid unchanging form where you can't do anything.
** The villains from Season 2's finale, {{spoiler|Changelings and their queen, Chrysalis, are 'evil' because to them, love is a '''food'''.}}
** It should be noted that while both of the above two examples merely provide a motive, they do ''not'' explain the outright sadism both exhibit. That seems to be a personality trait completely separate from this.
* It's a possible trait of inhabitants of the Spirit World in ''[[
* [[King of the Hill
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** [http://law.ubalt.edu/downloads/law_downloads/IRC_Shakespeare_in_the_Bush.pdf Shakespeare in the Bush] is a delicious account of trying to explain the plot of ''[[Hamlet]]'' to a tribe with very different mores; they have no concept of ghosts, the term which is their closest approximation to "scholar" (literally "person who knows things") is the same as one of their terms for "witch," and they believe that a widow should remarry as soon as possible. They wind up deciding, among other things, that Polonius's death was entirely due to his own [[Too Dumb to Live|mind-blowing stupidity]] regarding hunting etiquette and that Laertes was a witch who killed Ophelia to sell her body.
** This trope is the result of a lot of misinterpretations of the myth of Pandora's box - people now see the hope at the bottom as the manifestation of the one good thing that persists in spite of all bad things. But the ancient Greeks actually saw hope as a negative, because it was a delusion. ''That's why it was in the box Pandora wasn't supposed to open!''
*** Even the idea that Pandora wasn't supposed to open the box is an example, most likely from associations with Eve from [[
*** According to at least some scholarship, the last evil, the one Pandora managed to keep in the jar, wasn't hope. It was the sure knowledge of the future's shape. Humankind still has hope because we do not know for certain just how bad things will be. The ancient Greeks weren't a very optimistic bunch.
* The Aztecs had a thing for human sacrifice. It was originally considered an honor to be sacrificed, so rival cities would host ball games; the captain of the winning team would be sacrificed. Changing mores (and the realization that their conquered neighbors didn't quite feel the same way) partially led to the downfall of the Aztec empire, since the invading Spanish were identified with Quetzalcoatl--a god that was opposed to human sacrifice.
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*** Actually, they did form a special caste. Peninsulares (European and born in Spain) at the top, then Criollos (European and born in the colonies), then Mestizo (part Spanish and Part Native), then the in some complicated order the Indians, Africans, and mixes.
** The Mayans, on the other hand, were more big on self-sacrifice. They weren't averse to a little human sacrifice, but they were mainly concerned with body purification through bloodletting. Sexual stuff was considered relatively unclean, so the Mayans purified themselves by drawing barbed threads through their tongues and penises.
** Some American Indian cultures had no concept of [[Black and Black Morality|sin]], could not be traced back to [[The Bible
*** And when some Indians first got a look at this "lord and savior" the white man was so infatuated with, the Indians were extremely unimpressed; why would these people worship some loser who got nailed to a cross?
**** Supposedly they did like the whole Christ thing since it involved a deity sacrificing itself, like what their gods did everytime a new sun/world was needed.
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