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== Live Action TV ==
* ''Battlestar Galactica 1980,'' the [[Contested Sequel]] of the original ''[[
* [[George Lucas]] has publicly said that the ''[[The Star Wars Holiday Special]]'' does not form part of the ''[[Star Wars]]'' canon.
** This is not surprising, as technically, as far as George Lucas is concerned, only the six movies are actually in the official Star Wars canon. Everything else, even if made by Lucasfilm, is subject to being superseded by the movies. On the other hand, he also said he would love to smash every extant copy of said "Holiday special" with a sledgehammer given half a chance...
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** Also, in the episode "Morality Bites", the sisters learn that their mission is to protect innocents, not punish the "guilty" and take justice into their own hands. However in the episode "Hyde School Reunion", in order to save Phoebe and Chris, Phoebe and Paige glamour Rick Gittridge, a petty criminal, and deliberately get him killed by a group of demons.
** Chris comes back from the future in order to keep Paige from dying. And yet, for the entire season he is featured in he refers to future Paige many times as if he knew her, despite not having even been conceived when she "died."
*** The event that would have killed Paige was the Titans, in the first episode where Chris appeared. So one of the first things Chris did was to change that part of his future, and apparently this is an aversion of [[Ripple
**** it's also possible that Chris was simply lying about Paige's death and just chose to appear during the Titans crisis because it seemed serious enough to be a [[Conveniently Unverifiable Cover Story|believable reason]] for his time travel.
* NBC has repeatedly ignored the existence of the aborted 1980-81 season of ''[[Saturday Night Live]]''. In the season-by-season Best Of series, this was the only one skipped, with "The Best of 1980" containing material from the last episodes featuring the original cast. The 15th and 25th Anniversary specials ignored it, save for clips of its musical guests; and in fact, the 25th Anniversary special's opening titles contained a cast photo from every season EXCEPT that one. (Each photo on the film strip is even labeled with the year - 1979 and 1981 have nothing between them.) Additionally, the late-night 'Classic SNL' reruns that ran for several years only aired a single episode from this season, and due to NBC's coverage of the Pope's death, many areas never saw it.
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* Another musician to do this is David Bowie, who never includes his first self-titled album (his second self-titled album was later renamed "Space Oddity") in his discography.
** His early novelty song "The Laughing Gnome" is generally acknowledged as something that ''should not and should have never existed''. When fans voted for him to play it in a concert, he scrapped the poll altogether.
** ''Never Let Me Down'' (1987) is not only often considered his worst canonical album, but one song on it -- [http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Albums/NLMD/TD.html "Too Dizzy"] -- was [
* [[Eminem]]'s debut album, ''Infinite'', was a complete commercial failure, and has never been reissued. The songs featured a very young Eminem performing in smooth R&B styles he would never revisit, and none of the material has reappeared in any form. (While his second release, ''The Slim Shady EP'', has also never been reissued, most of the material was either repeated or remade for ''The Slim Shady LP.'')
* Both [[Alanis Morissette]] and [[Bjork]] have [[Old Shame|embarrassing early albums]] they don't acknowledge as part of their discography; Björk's was an LP of covers recorded when she was a child, while Alanis' were teen pop which won her fame in Canada but failed to chart in the US.
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** The very dated verse six, which makes reference to George Wade and his "rebellious Scots to crush" has also proved worthy of omitting, for obvious reasons.
* Similarly, only the third verse of "Deutschlandlied" is part of the German national anthem. Verse 1 was already being questioned for its apparent belligerence and imperialism before it was co-opted by the Nazis. Verse 2 is jingoistic self-aggrandizement that is... [[Values Dissonance|a bit awkward now]], to say the least. Verse 4 was a Nazi invention, so... yeah.
** Although this is a result of misinterpretation. The ''Deutschlandlied'' was originally written at a time when Germany was still divided into numerous little fiefdoms. "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" ("Germany, Germany above all") was intended as a rallying cry for uniting the small states and [[We ARE Struggling Together!|setting aside local squabbles]] in favor of creating a German nation.
* The third stanza of "The Star-Spangled Banner" is often omitted in official renderings, because it mocks the British military as "hirelings and slaves". Of course, Britain is now a key ally of the USA, making the verse very outdated.
** In [[Isaac Asimov]]'s WWII-era short story "No Refuge Could Save", a German spy is discovered when he is able to recite the third stanza. [[No True Scotsman|No "real" American would know it.]]
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== Video Games ==
* [[Epic Mickey]] deliberately ignores the fact that [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit]] still appeared in cartoons for many years after Disney lost him. This may be justified by that the Disney and Lantz Oswald are treated as two seperate chaarcters, but there isn't even an implication given that Ozzie starred in more shorts after Walt lost him.
* Satoru Iwata declared that the true "current" state of the ''[[Star Fox (Video Game)|Star Fox]]'' series is either after ''[[Star Fox Assault (Video Game)|Star Fox Assault]]'' or somewhere before ''[[Star Fox Command (Video Game)|Star Fox Command]]''. More than likely to be the former than the latter, if current information is any credible, as whilst the appearances of the cast in ''[[Super Smash Bros Brawl]]'' do make some ''slight'' reference of certain of Command's plotlines, they otherwise seem to resemble and behave like their appearances in ''Assault'' far more. Specifically, [[Official Couple|Fox McCloud and Krystal's]] [[
* Epic has admitted that ''Unreal Tournament 2003'' is not a complete game, first by refining the original game into ''[[Unreal Tournament 2004 (Video Game)|Unreal Tournament 2004]]'' with many of the previously missing features and offering a rebate to ''2003'' owners who bought ''2004'', then by numbering the sequels ''[[Unreal Tournament (Video Game)|Unreal Tournament]]'', ''[[Unreal Tournament 2004 (Video Game)|Unreal Tournament 2004]]'' and ''[[Unreal Tournament III (Video Game)|Unreal Tournament III]]''. Strangely enough, the backstory of ''2004'' doesn't override that of ''2003'', claiming that every event of ''2003'' happened. (Such as Malcolm being defeated by Gorge) The same can't be said for the original ''[[Unreal Tournament 2004 (Video Game)|Unreal Championship]]''.
* After Singletrac died, 989 Studios took over the ''[[Twisted Metal]]'' series and produced the third and fourth games. Once Incognito Entertainment (a studio consisting largely of Singletrac employees) regained the rights to the series, they made ''Twisted Metal Black'', which was much [[Darker and Edgier]] than the original two games and set in its own continuity. The only PSP entry in the franchise so far, ''Head-On'', is set after the second game and ignores the 989 entries. The post-989 entries were much better received, anyway. This to the point that "Head-On" is considered by fans to be the "true" Twisted Metal 3.
* All the ''[[Castlevania]]'' games (barring the parody game ''Kid Dracula'') were part of the canon in some form or another until Koji Igarashi (the director of ''Castlevania: Symphony of the Night'') took over the series as producer during the development of ''Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance'', removing the two [[Nintendo 64]] installments, ''Legends'', and ''Circle of the Moon'' from the official timeline. Igarashi clarified that the N64 games and ''Circle of the Moon'' were still canonical, but were demoted to "side-story" status. ''Castlevania Legends'' on the other hand, was officially retconned out of the series' continuity and is now regarded as an alternate universe story. This was likely due to the implication at the end that Alucard fathered Sonia Belmont's child, thereby making all future Belmonts into descendants of Dracula. Although, if that is the case, it makes it a very self-defeating retcon--when Alucard was only implied to be the child's father, the execs had some wiggle room, whereas as striking it out of canon so vehemently does a very good job of confirming fan's suspicions that [[I Knew It!|Alucard is the child's father]]--as otherwise, why even bother with it?
** Although such an implication fits startlingly well with the recent ''Order of Ecclesia'''s reliance on Dracula's own power to defeat him.
** Part of this was also due to Igarashi stating in interviews that he does not feel female characters can make for strong heroes and removed Legends simply because Sonia was a woman. ''Order of Ecclesia'' might contradict that but Shanoa was rather timid and subservient.
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* A rather odd case for Banpresto's ''[[Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]'': ''Original Generation'' (OG1) lets players choose between [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Ryusei Date]] and [[Super Robot Wars Compact 2|Kyosuke Nanbu]], whose stories co-exist with one another for the first half of the game. It's only until the second half events unfold differently for either character. Come ''Original Generation 2'' (OG2), events state only Ryusei's second half of OG1 happened; Kyosuke's second half is never mentioned at all. While this drops loads of [[Foreshadowing]] from Kyosuke's second half of OG1, fans were quick enough to deduce Banpresto did this to show that OG1 was never meant to be played in favour for Kyosuke, but the sequel was, since the game was primarly focused on his story from ''[[Super Robot Wars Compact 2|Super Robot Wars Impact]]''.
** Strangely enough, Kai Kitamura seems to know the other members of the cast very well, even though he's a permanent character in Kyosuke's route.
** Ironically, to celebrate SRW's 15th anniversary, Banpresto released ''Original Generations'' (OGs), a [[Video Game Remake]] on the [[Play Station 2]] of both GBA games, which sets itself as [[Canon Dis Continuity]] by rehashing the storyline to include [[Early
* Oddest case ever: ''[[Leisure Suit Larry]] 4''. It doesn't exist. It's not just non-canon, [[Un Installment|it was never made.]] Yes, Al Lowe jumped from 3 straight to 5.
** This works itself into the plot of ''Larry 5'' interestingly: Because the 4th game was never released, both player characters have no recollection of what happened after ''Larry 3''. {{spoiler|The actual in-game explaination is that the [[Big Bad]], Julius Bigg, stole the master floppies for himself before release. Patti is the first to realize this after he catches Julius humming the love theme from ''Larry 4'', which she wrote herself, knowing that he must have stolen the floppies if he knows the melody.}}
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* Weirdly subverted in [[The Church of Blow]], where the protagonist of the second series is an actor trying to make a viral youtube video. Then he starred in the [[Real Life]] viral video "Youtube is my Life", which the character is certain does not exist.
* Sometimes occurs, oddly enough, in ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]''. Sometimes a mod or handler declares a scene (mostly in [[Developing Doomed Characters|pre-game]] or a character's backstory) as non-canon, for whatever reason. Two examples of scenes declared non-canon by a mod include a thread in v1 where a rejected character actually showed up on the island and randomly killed someone, and a scene in v4 pre-game where a character was prostituting herself out for drugs, with the other character having an implausible amount of drugs on him.
* A small group of administrators at [[Wikipedia]] have "[
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