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If the writers lampshade a Discontinuity, either canonical or just something the fans want to be discontinued, then that's [[Discontinuity Nod]].
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== Anime & Manga ==
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** [[Word of God]] says it ignores ''Predator 2'' as well. In fact, Word of God is the only confirmation we get that this trope is even in effect. The actual film doesn't really contradict the others in any discernible way.
*** Director Nimrod Antal said in an interview said that it was mostly just the ''Alien vs Predator'' movies they were dismissing, but that ''Predator 2'' was closer to the original, so ''Predator 2'' wasn't being ignored the same way the ''AVP'' ones were.
*** It's not so much as Canon Discontinuity as it is just not be able to or not wanting to continue the story of the Alien vs Predator movies. The thing is that with the Predator franchise has a understandable reason as to why the aliens are never discovered. They have cloaking technology and have tons of survival experience in order to be undetected as well as heat seeking technology, laser guns, and bombs to ensure there's no survivors. Aliens while dangerous don't really have such luck. To be honest the only reason that the Xenomorphs have been pretty discovered and exterminated by now is that almost every movie in the Alien franchise [[Twenty Minutes Into the Future|takes place in the future]], [[What an Idiot!|the only people who seem to know about them is one random company that outright let's their employees get slaughtered]], [[Unreliable Narrator|and the only survivors to tell anybody about the Xenomorphs are mercenary's who probably wouldn't be trusted any way]]. To put it simple any Alien vs Predator movie is doomed to [[Kill
* ''[[Universal Soldier]]'' has had numerous sequels with numerous instances of installments ignoring other installments. The first film was followed by two sequels, ''Universal Soldier II: Brothers in Arms'' and ''Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business'', which were ignored by the next film, ''Universal Soldier: The Return''. The next film, ''Universal Soldier: Regeneration'', ignored every previous movie except the first.
* The third and fourth ''[[Pumpkinhead|Pumpkinheads]]'' ignore the second, which was tenuously connected to the original anyway.
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*** When RPM WAS referenced in ''[[Power Rangers Samurai]]'', it was explained as being an alternate universe(this is shown by only a villain and the RPM Red Ranger appearing in said series.)
*** This has seemingly been thrown out, since there's word that the [[Milestone Celebration|20th anniversary]] will include a [[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger (TV)|Legend War]] battle that features every single Power Rangers team, including the Disney ones.
* The Zat gun on ''[[Stargate SG-1 (TV)|Stargate SG-1]]'' may be an example of this. Early on it was said that "one shot stuns, two shots kill, and three shots disintegrate." They used it a few times until they realized it was just too convenient. This was later self-parodied in "[[Who Would Want to Watch Us?|Wormhole X-treme!]]" with one of the writers saying: "That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard."
** More over the difference between the show and the movie is extreme. Ra goes from being the last of his kind to the leader of the Goa'uld System Lords. Abydos is also moved into the Milkway from another Galaxy. The Jaffa are invented and Ra's species made into the Goa'uld. The way the Stargate functions is also considerably different in the movie than in the show.
* ''[[The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'': The family goes to see a psychologist, then leaves, then John comes back several times, then Sarah comes back, then Sarah comes back in another episode and the psychologist says that after the first time he never saw them again. All in Season 2.
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*** This isn't the only instance of the official novels' content being ignored in favor of another variation of the same scene. Take the Toa's climatic first battle against [[Big Bad|the Makuta]] and the fight against the Manas crabs that lead up to it. In the very first book, ''Tale of the Toa'', the Toa in their [[Fusion Dance|Kaita]] mode defeat two Manas using trickery and their own [[Elemental Powers]]. In the ''Mata Nui On-Line Game'', they defeat a ''horde'' of Manas by spectacularly destroying their energy towers. Then, still in the game, they go on to participate in an epic clash with the Makuta. In the book, they just walk out of the cave after dealing with the Manas, and Makuta never appears. Guess which is canon nowadays?
** The introduction of the movie ''The Legend Reborn''. It has so many things that clash with the storyline's continuity, whether established previously or afterwards, they simply chose to ignore it. That is not to say the ''events'' themselves didn't happen. They just happened in a way that contradicts the movie's visuals (like Mata Nui's island is shown being covered with lush jungles when according to canon, it was a barren wasteland).
** A couple of things from the on-line clips and the first movie trilogy also get ignored, most infamously the shipping scenes, as there came to be a [[No Hugging, No Kissing]] rule.
** Taxi crabs were also considered dis-canonized for years because the writer didn't like the joke. They have slowly drifted back into canon territory, though.
* This is essentially what a marriage annulment amounts to. In a divorce, a marriage is officially declared to be over; when a marriage is annulled, however, it is considered never to have been a valid marriage in the first place. In times when divorces were significantly harder to get, many people would find a reason for an annulment.
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* ''[[GURPS]] [[Traveller]]'' disavows the Rebellion (from ''MegaTraveller'') and the Virus (from ''[[Jump the Shark|Traveller: The New Era]]''). Other recent ''[[Traveller]]'' products keep the Rebellion and ditch the Virus, or keep both (fans and players are similarly split; see [[Broken Base]]).
** Well, it doesn't so much disavow the Rebellion as present a Traveller Elseworlds where it failed. An obscure mention in the ''GURPS Traveller'' core sourcebook reveals that Archduke Dulinor died in a 'shuttle crash' on his way down to Sylea's planetary surface, the day he was to have his fateful audience with the Emperor. It isn't ''explicitly'' said that the shuttle crashed because an Imperial black ops squad put several kilos of high explosive in the engine, but its kinda hinted. The accompanying sidebar explicitly says 'We're doing an alternate-universe ''Traveller'', not the main one'.
* Writers for TSR went so far as to mention explicitly in a reboot continuity guide for the ''World of [[Greyhawk]]'' campaign setting for ''[[Dungeons and Dragons (Tabletop Game)|Dungeons and Dragons]]'' that ''Greyhawk Ruins'' was to be considered the [[Word of God|official]] version of Castle Greyhawk and not the [[Dude, Not Funny|pretty dated and unfunny]] parody module ''Castle Greyhawk''.
* Because no one's entirely sure if the Chaos God Malal from ''[[Warhammer]]'' and ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' is owned by Games Workshop or the comic book author who introduced him to the franchise, GW dropped all mention of him from their gamebooks to be on the safe side.
** GW might not mention Malal by name, but he still gets a few references. For example there's a Chaos Space Marine warband called "Sons of Malice" that wears Malal's colours and the rulebook for the spinoff game ''Inquisitor'' includes a weapon very similar to the ones champions of Malal use in the list of daemon weapons.
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* Karona meeting [[Big Bad|Yawgmoth]], apparently still alive, in the ''[[Magic the Gathering|Scourge]]'' novel has been [[Retcon|Retconned]] as having been an impostor.
** Or It could have been a [[Psychic Dreams for Everyone|Psychic Dream]] of the past.
* ALL of the ''[[Eberron]]'' [[Tie
* [[Exalted]] has Scroll of the Monk, a much-maligned product and [[Old Shame]] of writer Dean Shomshak. The [[Promoted Fanboy|Ink Monkeys]] have gone on record as saying it does not exist beyond an example of not reading the rules before making a book.
** Zeal is probably the most memetic example in the fandom; it was widely panned before Errata Team Prime finally canned it.
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** [[Fallout New Vegas]] however is full of nods to Fallout 2.
* On the subject of Bethesda, suddenly realizing that multiple endings of the second game in ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'' series would have been a great idea for the end of a series, they averted this trope fully by declaring all SIX endings canon. It's now listed in Canon as the Warp in the West, transforming 44 quarreling city-states into five loyal countries literally overnight.
* In the late 90's, Konami farmed out the development of two ''[[Contra]]'' sequels to Hungarian developer Appaloosa (best known for the ''[[Ecco the Dolphin (Video Game)|Ecco the Dolphin]]'' series). ''Contra: Legacy of War'' for the PS1 and Saturn in 1996, and ''C: The Contra Adventure'' for the PS1 in 1998. Neither game were that well-received by fans and critics alike. In fact, Konami even canceled plans to release a Japanese version of ''Legacy of War''. In 2002, Konami commissioned Nobuya Nakazato (director of ''Contra III'' and ''Hard Corps'') to develop the PS2 sequel, ''Contra: Shattered Soldier''. The unlockable timeline of the game mentions all of the past ''Contra'' games, with the notable omissions of ''Legacy of War'' and ''Contra Adventure'' (and ''Contra Force'', but that was just a [[Dolled
* When the NES port of ''[[Metal Gear 1987 (Video Game)|Metal Gear 1987]]'' proved to be successful, [[Konami]] commissioned one of their teams to developed a sequel for the American and European market titled ''[[Snakes Revenge (Video Game)|Snakes Revenge]]''. This sequel was made without [[Hideo Kojima]]'s involvement and when he was told about it, he decided to make his own sequel for the Japanese MSX2 titled ''[[Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake (Video Game)|Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake]]''. The ''[[Metal Gear Solid (Video Game)|Metal Gear Solid]]'' series follows the storyline from ''Metal Gear 2'' rather than ''Snake's Revenge''.
* Monolith Productions chose to [http://www.projectorigincommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5928&postcount=7 ignore] the two ''[[First Encounter Assault Recon|F.E.A.R.]]'' expansion packs (which were made by a different company) when they started development on the game's ''real'' sequel.
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** It's more confusing than that. ''Start of Darkness'' was released before strip #434, which has Roy mention Master Fyron's son again.
** It's speculated by some fans that Fyron's son was killed off panel.
* ''[[
** In conext, the outfit was red for the greater majority of one strip. Black Mage lampshaded the color change the following strip while he was descending into his standard state of being pissed off.
{{quote| '''Black Mage:''' ''*To Red Mage*'' '''You''' suck. ''*To Fighter*'' '''You''' suck. ''*To Thief*'' And '''you''' were wearing red a second ago!<br />
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*** And do you want to know which characters from those respective movies ended up in the merchandise instead? The villains!
*** Also, Roark's death at the end of ''Atlantis'' is often considered by fans of that film as a [[Take That]] to Disney's definition of "princess": Near the end of the film, the King of Atlantis, while on his deathbed, actually states that the Atlantean Crystal (which was stolen by Roark, shortly after he kills the King) can and will only accept those of [[Royal Blood|royal blood]]. Since Roark is not only the film's [[Big Bad]] but is also not royalty, the Crystal ultimately kills him by first turning him into a nightmarish crystal ice monster, then vaporizing him with his own blimp's propellers. Ironic, given the fact that Disney still sees him (and to a much lesser extent, [[The Dragon|Helga]]) as an official ''Disney Villain''...
** They seem to be giving their older TV cartoons this treatment too. The book ''Disney Dossiers'' fails to mention most of the details about the feature characters established in their TV spin-offs or sequels (examples being [[Aladdin (Disney)|Aladdin having a father]], [[The
** A [[Disney Princess]] coloring book about [[Aladdin (Disney)|Aladdin and Jasmine's wedding]] also for some reason ignored the events of the film's sequels. One, is that Iago the parrot isn't attending the wedding at all (at the end of ''The Return of Jafar'', Iago actually converted to the side of good), and two, Jasmine's wedding dress for some reason, looks absolutely ''nothing'' like the one she wore in ''King of Thieves'' at all!
** On that note, according to the [[Pixar Regulars|John Lasseter and Ed Catmull]]-run Disney Animation Studios, everything Pooh-related released after [[The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh]] and before the [[Winnie the Pooh (Film)|2011 Winnie the Pooh film]] isn't canon. That means no Pooh's Grand Adventure, no Book Of Pooh, no The Tigger Movie, no Piglet's Big Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie, and no My Friends Tigger and Pooh... so pretty much everything released during Pooh's [[Cash Cow Franchise]] days (which makes up a majority of the Pooh media) is no longer canon. It's a pretty gutsy move on Lasseter and Catmull's part, but then again these were the guys who stopped production on Disney's direct-to video sequels so it's pretty clear that they believe Disney should be [[Doing It for The Art]] rather than going after easy money.
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