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* [[And Now for Someone Completely Different]]
* [[Artifact of Doom]]: The Frozen Flame, obviously. Lots, and lots, and [[Overly Long Gag|looooots]] of [[Doomy Dooms of Doom|DOOM]].
* [[Author Tract]]: '''KING ALPHARD ZEAL, [[This Is for Emphasis, Bitch|BITCHES]]!!!'''
* [[Back From the Dead]]: Schala is revived at the very beginning. {{spoiler|At the end, Magus catches King Zeal as he falls out of [[The Nothing After Death|the Darkness Beyond Time]] after the [[Final Boss]] Battle and heals/revives him.}}
* [[Bad Future]]: Happens multiple times, as time travelers keep screwing with the timeline.
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* [[Foil]]: The Xamoltan, a trio of Reptite time-travelers from an alternate timeline, serve as foils to Crono and friends. {{spoiler|Especially their desire to only go back in time to observe, study, chronicle, and learn, while Crono's party does so specifically to meddle and attempt to "improve" the future of the timeline.}}
* [[Flanderization]]: Possibly with Magus, whose {{spoiler|only purpose in life and in breathing is to find Schala, and even when she's found he won't stop obsessing over her.}} [[Subverted Trope|Subverted]] with Ayla, as she actually developed a personality.
** Some people may find Magus's {{spoiler|obsession over Schala to have [[Brother
* [[Foregone Conclusion]]: If you've played ''[[Chrono Cross (Video Game)|Chrono Cross]]'', you may already be aware of a lot of the plot twists that will eventually come around, such as {{spoiler|Guardia's fall or the existence of the Reptite Timeline.}} The fact that the game manages to bring these events about, and '''''not''''' come off as a rehash, is part of its appeal.
* [[Generation Xerox]]: Toma. In ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'', there were only two identified Toma characters and they shared the same sprite. But in ''Crimson Echoes'', there are more Tomas in other eras, and it seems evident that every adult Toma seen in any time period looks exactly the same.
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** {{spoiler|Marle's Flame Trial shows her future as a terrible monarch obsessed with blaming Porre for her father's death <ref><s>(when the real murderer was King Zeal)</s> Belthasar mentions that His Grace was gonna be dead soon anyway, and in her grief Marle could have convinced herself that Porre somehow killed him.</ref> and letting Guardia slip into ruin in the meanwhile. The game is deliberately vague as to whether this is an accurate prediction of Marle's future, or just a [[Mind Screw]] by the Frozen Flame.}}
*** But, in any case, it probably drove {{spoiler|Marle to relinquish Guardia's throne without protesting much. She may have thought that, if it was really her future, she was still in time to change it and avoid even worse suffering to her people}}.
* [[Good Morning, Crono]]: What's a ''Chrono'' game without this Trope?
* [[Gray and Gray Morality]]: The second half of the game is ''drowning'' in it. There is a distinct vibe of "nobody is right here, even if we think we're trying to do the right thing". King Zeal [[What the Hell, Hero?|calls the PCs on it]] shortly before the final battles in a long-winded [[Author Tract]], and even the creators admit some of them [[Sympathetic POV|would have sided with Zeal over Crono and the gang]].
** [[Black and Gray Morality|Aaaaand then there's]] ''[[Complete Monster|Dalton]]''...
* [[Heroic Mime]]: Averted, as (unlike in ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'') the hero Crono does speak in this game. Quite a lot.
* [[Hot Mom]] / [[Action Mom]]: {{spoiler|Ayla.}}
* [[I Need a Freaking Drink]]: Once {{spoiler|Toma}} comes to Chronopolis and goes all [[What Does This Button Do?]] on everything, most of the staff becomes nowhere to be seen, citing "sudden headaches".
* [[Keep Circulating the Tapes]]: The fate of the unauthorized alpha leak, which has been passed around various torrent sites and underground internet communities since news of the leak first broke. The creators of ''Crimson Echoes'' have come out heavily against it.<ref>And for good reason, too, since the leaks could potentially bring down on them all the legal trouble they were trying to avoid by complying with the C&D.</ref> Despite this, the game keeps leaking and getting press coverage with each leak... yet, oddly, no lawsuits from the supposedly protective Squeenix.
** A modder, Giro, is attempting the ''Flames Of Eternity'' project, which is an attempt to remake ''Crimson Echoes'' with a different ending, no [[Multiple Endings]], and without all the references to [[Naruto]], [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|Gurren Lagann]] and [[Bleach]], added due to the bits of ZeaLitY's beliefs that they inspired, but replacing other things with references to ''Final Fantasy'' instead, and borrowing music from ''Final Fantasy'' and The Black Mages. Status updates can be found at http://metronomeproject.blogspot.com/.
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* [[Took a Level In Badass]]: The Mystic Knights. After a game off having their butts kicked by the heroes, Ozzie, Slash, and Flea pull themselves together and kick a lot of butt in their reappearance.
* [[Unlucky Childhood Friend]]: Lucca, shown during the Flame Trial.
* [[Villain Forgot to Level Grind]]: But he was so strong he didn't really need to. King Zeal is fought three times through the game -- a [[Hopeless Boss Fight]] at the beginning, a [[Bonus Boss]] [[The Battle Didn't Count|that doesn't count plotwise]] later, and {{spoiler|phase one of the final battle}} with the same stats each time. {{spoiler|Of course, he gets a [[One
* [[Well
** In a way, the player party qualifies as well. {{spoiler|Unlike their Reptite Timeline counterparts the Xamoltan, who limit themselves to using time travel for learning and observation, Crono's group specifically uses it to change the past, [[Unfortunate Implications|inadvertently dooming every alternate timeline they create and then unmake to the]] [[The Nothing After Death|Darkness Beyond Time]].}}
* [[Wham Episode]]: {{spoiler|The Fall of Guardia and the Reptite Timeline.}}
* [[What Measure Is an Index|What Measure Is Another Timeline]]: The disregard [[Gray and Grey Morality|practically everyone]] has for alternate timelines that are not their own. This is eventually addressed as a serious ethical question.
* [[What the Hell, Hero?]]: Your characters get called out quite a few times, whether it be {{spoiler|your [[Foil]] asking how you can destroy a timeline and the countless people that would not be born because of it}} or {{spoiler|Glenn yelling at Crono for murdering two random (innocent!) Reptites in a fit of rage after finding Marle's corpse.}}
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: King Zeal and Marle.
* [[Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe]]: Averted. Glenn no longer speaks in old-esque English, and his dialogue is closer to his style in the original Japanese ''Trigger''.
** Completely played straight in ''Flames of Eternity'', however.
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