Crimson Echoes: Difference between revisions

* [[Badass Normal]]: Sometimes it seems like Agent 12 is getting more done than the player's party.

* [[Big Bad]]: Unlike its prequel and sequel, it's not Lavos, but rather King Zeal. Unlike the rest of his family, {{spoiler|he's even able to control Lavos}}.

* [[Butt Monkey]]: Dalton.

** Subverted in the Mystic-Porre conflict in the Middle Ages -- whichever of the three options Glenn chooses (support the Mystics, support the Porreans, or remain neutral) will have a direct and obvious affect on the game's future.

** There's also a particular case in a side quest: you have a choice to refuse doing something, but soon after you'll be forced to do something else to achieve the same goal.

* [[Random Encounter]]: In [[Sdrawkcab Name|Modnar]] [[Meaningful Name|Forest]] only.

** If you pay attention, you'll notice they aren't really random but triggered by a timer - in fact, you can even stand still after one of these fights and you'll get into another one after a little while. Still, one of the many impressive feats of additional coding in the game.

* [[San Dimas Time]]: [[Hand Wave|Hand Waved]] by stating that the stationary Time Gates travel forward through time at the speed of the normal passage of time. And if someone goes back in time to a year that the Gates don't "currently" exist in (even if they existed there when the characters were five years younger), Gates cannot be found. This has the effect of ensuring that events in all Gate-connected timelines are happening at a concurrent speed from and equal interval to one another, so that time actually elapses while time travelers are away for the same duration as other people wait for them. This form of [[San Dimas Time]] is only averted using a Time Egg (one was originally used to save Crono in ''Chrono Trigger''). Lucca and Belthasar can make imperfect semi-stable Time Eggs, but only Gaspar can make perfectly stable ones.

* [[Urban Legend of Zelda|Schala Lives]]: Schala is saved early in the game, seeming to derail the events of ''[[Chrono Cross (Video Game)|Chrono Cross]]''. {{spoiler|But derailment is averted. She is later mortally wounded, and sent to the Darkness Beyond Time. In the ending, Magus sees her attached to an apparition of Lavos, but can't remain there long enough to save her. He then saves King Zeal so that he can learn the remaining Zealian arts that he never got to learn because of the (original!) Ocean Palace incident, ending with learning how to open a Gate so that he can go to th Darkness Beyond Time and save Schala. Once he does, [[Updated Rerelease|he then meets]] '''[[Updated Rerelease|a]]''' [[Updated Rerelease|past version of the party from around the time Lavos was defeated, which then]] [[Take Up My Sword|fights the Dream Devourer in his place]] [[Updated Rerelease|before everyone is sent away and he wipes his own memory]].}}

* [[Screwed By the Lawyers]]: There's controversy as to whether or not the cease-and-desist was a publicity stunt.

** {{spoiler|In his last moments,}} Dalton says one of [[Bleach|Grimmjow]]'s greatest lines.

** The chapters regarding {{spoiler|the Reptite Timeline, where Lavos was eradicated in Prehistory and [[And Man Grew Proud|humanity never rose to power with magic or technology]], thus resulting in a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Dinotopian]] civilization centered around reverence of the power of Nature}} are appropriately entitled "[[War Craft|An Emerald Dream]]".

* [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]: Belthasar. {{spoiler|From the point at which the party (plus Schala, minus Ayla) is finally fully collected to Chronopolis, you see the building of the insane [[Gambit Pileup]] that is ''[[Chrono Cross (Video Game)|Chrono Cross]]'' with his relentless desire to "fix" everything that goes wrong in the timeline, regardless of the consequences. This is [[Lampshade Hanging|Lampshaded]] both by Melchior in his everyday conversation -- "Keep an eye on him, he's stressed" -- and later when the group meets Gaspar.}} A case could also be made for King Zeal.

** In a way, the player party qualifies as well. {{spoiler|Unlike their Reptite Timeline counterparts the Xamoltan, who limit themselves to using time travel for learning and observation, Crono's group specifically uses it to change the past, [[Unfortunate Implications|inadvertently dooming every alternate timeline they create and then unmake to the]] [[The Nothing After Death|Darkness Beyond Time]].}}

* [[What the Hell, Hero?]]: Your characters get called out quite a few times, whether it be {{spoiler|your [[Foil]] asking how you can destroy a timeline and the countless people that would not be born because of it}} or {{spoiler|Glenn yelling at Crono for murdering two random (innocent!) Reptites in a fit of rage after finding Marle's corpse.}}

* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: King Zeal and Marle.