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*** {{spoiler|In Fate's defense, Vivio was powered up well beyond her normal capacity by a Lost Logia at the time. Also, Fate was weakened by a Divine Buster just prior to being hit by the Starlight Breaker.}}

** That explains why she isn't as close to Chrono as to the rest of her friends. She never blew him up! [[Gay Option|Het Option]] Yuuno is around, but has less and less presence each season.

** Coincidentally, the first time Nanoha met Fate, the latter "befriended" her nearly into the hospital. Is it any wonder she fell in [[Love At First Sight]] [[Love At First Punch|Punch]]?

** Lampshaded in the [[All There in the Manual|third Megami]] [[Audio Adaptation|sound stage]], where Hayate, in response to Erio and Caro becoming friends with Lutecia (whom they had defeated in the final battle), and the reformed Numbers cyborgs, notes that children have an amazing capacity for forgiveness. Similarly, in [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid (Manga)|Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid]], Vivio acknowledges that while she is friends with Lutecia and the Numbers now, they were involved in her kidnapping from Section 6 four years ago.

* ''[[Flame of Recca (Manga)|Flame of Recca]]'' is notorious for this, particularly during the [[Tournament Arc]]. People who were trying to kill Team Hokage just hours ago are suddenly eating snacks, playing videogames, and sharing stories with our heroes in their hotel room.

** And one of them creates a fan club for Fuko.

* In ''[[Harlem Beat]]'', almost all rival teams become this with Johnan team.

* Possibly subverted in ''[[Black Lagoon (Manga)|Black Lagoon]]'': Chang and Balalaika became friends after their (intended) fight to the death turned out a draw.

* This trope is part of the bread and butter of ''[[Great Teacher Onizuka (Manga)|Great Teacher Onizuka]]''. Heck, it's basically his entire teaching style.

* Invoked (badly) in ''[[S-Cry-ed (Anime)|S-Cry-ed]]''. One of the antagonists attempts to use his "script-writing" powers to rewrite reality where Kazuma joins HOLY. He botches it when Kazuma instead takes his defeat personally and punches the altered reality back into shape.

* In the [[Shoujo Demographic]] manga ''[[Crown (Manga)|Crown]]'', bad guys come after [[The Ingenue|Mahiro]], get their butts kicked by [[Badass|Ren and Jake]], and then hang around and help with the housework.

* In the ecchi romance ninja manga ''[http://www.sendspace.com/file/bcfff6 Ninja Girls]'', this is how the rivals in the [[Love Triangle]] for Raizo's affections become friends... during a friendly game of kemari that turns violent. If they weren't [[Stripperific]] you could almost mistake this as an occurrence in a typical male oriented sports manga, as they fall down laughing, and handclasping.

{{quote| '''Mike''': (in upperclass British accent): "You have defeated me sir! You and your noble band of choreographers!"}}

* After Jerry beats up his bully in ''[[Three O Clock High]]'', the bully shows up to return some money so that Jerry can get out of a theft charge. He even gives him the very faintest of smiles before walking off.

* ''[[American Ninja]]'' has this. Jackson starts a fight with Joe, when Joe effortlessly kicks his ass, Jackson becomes his buddy, willing to risk court-martial for his new friend.

* In the [[Directors Cut]] of ''[[Legend (Film)|Legend]]'' The Gump is furious with Jack for allowing Lily to touch the unicorn, and then throws a massive tantrum when Jack solves his subsequent riddle - but once he's over it he forgives Jack immediately (as he promised) and joins his quest to save the unicorns (and Lily) from Darkness.

** In ''[[Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Video Game)|Final Fantasy XIII-2]]'', Most of the monsters you beat (non-boss only) become your familiar and help you in fights.

* In ''[[Castlevania III Draculas Curse (Video Game)|Castlevania III Draculas Curse]]'', Trevor Belmont picks up allies Grant and Alucard only after defeating them as bosses.

** ''[[Devil Survivor (Video Game)|Devil Survivor]]'' has the <s>Nintendo DS lookalike</s> COMP, which upon activation summon a demon for you to fight. If you defeat it, it will become your subordinate. And then a fraction of the way into the game, [[Cosplay Otaku Girl|Midori]] defeats a [[Series Mascot|Jack Frost]] and teaches him about [[The Power of Love]] and [[The Power of Friendship|Friendship]]. {{spoiler|A few days later, he reappears and depending on your choices, you can ''recruit him into your party'' on the last day.}}

* Star Wolf in ''[[Star Fox (Video Game)|Star Fox]]'', tend to fight the main characters first before joining them. Although to be fair, it was Star Fox who bothered them in their base.

* This is the hallmark of the ''[[Touhou (Video Game)|Touhou]]'' doujin game series. The only playable character that ''didn't'' start as a boss is Reimu herself. In fact, almost every game ends with the good guys sitting down for tea with the bad guys and unlocking a bonus stage.

** It's also heavily implied in the backstory of the goddesses in ''Mountain of Faith''. Kanako defeated Suwako to conquer her kingdom, but didn't exile her and even agreed to share the shrine.

** In ''Labyrinth of Touhou'', a fanmade CRPG based on ''[[Etrian Odyssey (Video Game)|Etrian Odyssey]]'', a boss fight with one of the major ''Touhou'' girls pretty much always ends with the girl ([[The One Guy|or guy, in the case of Rinnosuke]]) in question "joining" Reimu's party in the post-battle cutscene. How willing each girl is at the matter varies individually, though.

* A continuing video game example: Many newcomers in the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' franchise fight Sonic, [[Let's You and Him Fight|usually out of misunderstanding]], before joining his side. This dates back as far as Knuckles (from 1994's ''[[Sonic 3 and Knuckles (Video Game)|Sonic 3 and Knuckles]]'', but several times since) to the additions of Blaze (''[[Sonic Rush Series (Video Game)|Sonic Rush Series]]'') and Silver (''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (Video Game)|Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]''). The real baddie usually shows up midfight, making the opposing character perform a [[Heel Face Turn]] split-second.

** In ''[[Phantom Brave (Video Game)|Phantom Brave]]'', killing a few of an enemy type will make it possible to recruit that enemy type.

** In ''[[La Pucelle (Video Game)|La Pucelle Tactics]]'', if you "purify" just about any enemy before killing it, it will join your party and can be fielded immediately if you don't already have 8 units in play.

*** {{spoiler|Cept it does. It just gives you a bad ending on top of it. You get her after going through the bad ending, there just [[Subverted Trope|isn't an actual event of it happening]]}}

** ''[[Disgaea 2]]'' has Yukimaru, who joins you after Adell beats her in the tournament and talks her down from probably-very-honorable-but-not-really-wished-for suicide.

** Likewise with [[Bill Clinton]] and [[George Bush]], who seem to have spent most of the last decade co-organizing charity events.

*** Speaking of Bush, in 1980 he and [[Ronald Reagan]] were competing for the Republican nomination. When Reagan won, Bush agreed to be his running mate.

* In the [[Red Hot Chili Peppers (Music)|Red Hot Chili Peppers]], Anthony Kiedis' first encounter with Flea involved telling Flea off for bullying one of his classmates. Then they became friends when they discovered they had similar music tastes.

* One of the oldest ones in the book: When Persian King Cyrus the Great conquered a country, he often let its king live, letting him become a royal advisor instead. This most famously happened to Croesos (the King of Lydia and literally the man who invented money, or rather his grandson), whose later loyalty to Cyrus is documented in several places.

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