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*** It makes you wonder if Judith Mccreary was one of said shippers, since she did the next best thing in writing the episode "Cold" - {{spoiler|she killed Novak's career.}} {{spoiler|Sort of.}}
* Some fans of the original ''[[Law and Order]]'' exemplify a less common variation of this trope that does not involve killing off an alternate love interest. Many, many fanfictions kill Connie Rubirosa's mother, so she will no longer have a reason to stay in Los Angeles and can move back to New York to live happily ever after with Mike Cutter.
** Carly, Judge Reynolds' clerk and potential love interest for Mike, is also often a victim of this. However, fans' hatred of her [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|does not stem entirely from the fact that she is seen as getting between Mike and Connie]].
* [[Jericho]] Has Jake/Heather fans harming Emily Sullivan left and right because [[Ship Sinking|she got the guy]] in Canon. Emily also tends to get [[Flanderized]] into a complete bitch while [[Purity Sue]] Heather become a 26 year old virgin and a paragon of midwestern values.
* On ''[[Ugly Betty]]'', Henry's girlfriend Charlie came under fire for getting in the way of Henry/Betty. The show decided to follow through, gradually changing Charlie's personality from "basically nice person" to "evil, deceitful bitch".
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** It definitely didn't help that even many ''non''-shippers couldn't stand Riley. Not the actor's fault; the character was generally badly written, was the centerpiece of one of the show's most obnoxiously stupid storylines (the Initiative), and was inserted into the show at the exact wrong time.
** A mix of this and [[Replacement Scrappy]] can be traced as the source for a good deal of hate for Kennedy, Willow's last-season love interest following the death of Tara. Granted, the character seemed to be a less successful attempt to recreate a morally neutral "Faith" type (who was also a lesbian), but mostly there were cries of [[Too Soon]].
*** Kennedy's level of [[Shallow Love Interest]] was almost lampshaded by Willow asking why Kennedy liked her - Kennedy isn't able to come up with any real reasons besides Willow's cuteness and gender preferences. Yet, by the next episode, they're in a committed relationship.
**** It could have been not buying a chemistry thing. A lot of fans point out that Fred\Willow had more chemistry together in one episode then Kennedy\Willow in the whole of season seven.
** Oddly enough, while I'm not sure if I just have looked hard enough or if I'm right, it seems that [[Les Yay|Fuffy]] shippers seem to not really hate on any of Buffy's canon love interests (except for the occasional Riley hate and even that's rare). Then again, a fairly large number seem to take place in Seasons 3, 4 or 6.
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** Nathan's wife Heidi isn't really ''hated'', but fanfic writers tend to marginalize her since her existence interferes with the One True [[Brother-Sister Incest|Bro]] [[Ho Yay|Yay]].
** Oddly enough, Noah's wife Sandra is generally well-liked even though she logically gets in the way of any pairings featuring her husband. Matt's wife Janice, however, is hated by everyone, even though she didn't interfere with any major ships while she was around. Then again, she ''canonically'' messed him up romantically, so there's some justification.
** Well Janice is hated because Matt's new girlfriend, Daphne was an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] and people did not respond well to Matt taking Janice back, especially so soon after Daphne died.
** Claire's second-season boyfriend West is just as loathed, but this may be because [[Relationship Writing Fumble|he was horribly written,]] especially compared to Zach, her friend in the previous season (who was originally written as gay, but since his actor thought he was in love with her...). Too bad Zach's actor went to another series.
** Hiro's second-season love interest, Yaeko, is also disliked {{spoiler|partly because Hiro's supposed to be walking The Hero's Path and above things like lusting after your best friend's girl and partly because of how poignant and sweet the Hiro/Charlie romance was. It seemed that he forgot her too quickly: she was his first love in more ways than one, canonically, and yet Hiro seemed to have no memory of her during the feudal Japan arc.}} Yaeko has been also bashed by [[Slash Fic|Hiro/Ando and Hiro/Kensei shippers]], {{spoiler|and some fans believe she's a [[Did Not Do the Research|historically inaccurate]] [[Mary Sue]].}}
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** And to round out the set, there are the folks who make Stacy and Cuddy shrilling harridans and Cameron a weepy infant so House and Wilson can get it on - they ''are'' the most popular pairing by a slim but definite margin. [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3582047/1/The_Rampant_Disease Particularly egregious examples] have been known to ''kill off'' the women - and this in a [[Medical Drama]], with normally no violence.
** Sometimes, Wilson gets this treatment ''because'' he's being shipped with House. It's a kink. Wilson also gets darkened for some Wilson/Chase ships.
** Anyone who wants to ship either Chase or Cameron with someone else between season 3's "[[Friends with Benefits]]" arc and early season 6 has to get around Chase's trying to ship Chase/Cameron. Methods of derailing Cameron have been noted above; to facilitate pairing Chase with someone else, she may also be turned into a single-target harridan. Methods of derailing Chase to get Cameron together with House or Thirteen include making him more clueless than in canon, turning his [[Yandere]] streak up to eleven -- there are several House/Cameron fics where Chase attempts to [[Murder the Hypotenuse]] after Cameron's broken up with him, and Cameron isn't always safe either -- going alcoholic a few seasons early, denigrating his manhood (yes, even in Cameron/Thirteen fics), or showing him to have nothing in common with Cameron (when they had been friends in the first half of season 1).
** House had sex with a woman named Lydia, played by Franka Potente. [http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1220274.html#cutid1 The House/Cuddy fans RAGE.]
** Some fans started to hate Lucas only after his relationship with Cuddy interfered with House/Cuddy. And that started ''before'' Lucas vandalized Wilson's apartment.
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** And then they basically [[Derailing Love Interests|did it in canon]] to Tess, when she wound up {{spoiler|killing another series regular, having been working with the enemy all along, possibly (mind?)raping the hero, and then running off with his baby and their only spaceship.}}
* Dr. Jennifer Keller in ''[[Stargate Atlantis]]''. Replacing the highly popular Dr. Carson Beckett, she's become a rather controversial character in the fandom, inspiring love and hate in about a 45/55 portion if the Gateworld threads are anything to go by (although that sounds most like [[Mr. Fanservice|the gender ratio]] of that particular forum). The hate is particularly passionate considering that the mods have had to limit the anti-thread to misgivings and complaints only. The McKeller ship (Rodney and her), now canon, seems to have plenty of supporters though, but a few opponents as well, mostly Ronon/Keller shippers.
** Now the part of the fandom hates Rodney for choosing Keller and not John Sheppard, his traditional fanon love interest. Amount of fic where [[Мс Kay]] portrayed as an evil bastard who left Sheppard for a girl/having sex with him while dating Keller at the same time and being total jerk about it is getting bigger and bigger.
** Interestingly, Elizabeth Weir, who had quite a bit of [[UST]] with the ''other'' half of the main slash pairing, John Sheppard, doesn't seem to get this nearly as much - although she ''does'' get it. Instead she is usually paired off with another male cast member - Radek Zelenka and Evan Lorne are popular - and is frequently portrayed as a [[Shipper on Deck]] for John/Rodney, or at the very least quietly, unobtrusively supportive of them.
* ''[[Stargate Universe]]'' had the opposite effect. People wanted Chloe not to die for a ship.. but instead just to die. Instead of fighting between themselves, the shippers of the two major pairings involving Chloe, [[Just Friends|Chloe/Eli]] and Chloe/Scott pairings fought together against the group that wanted Chloe dead.
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** There are also a large contingent of fans who hate Robin for "interfering with" Guy/Marian, despite the fact that Guy is basically a [[Stalker with a Crush]] and ended up killing Marian for rejecting him at the end of Season Two. Instead of killing the ship, fans just started railing against ''Marian'' for "breaking Guy's heart".
** There is a large group of fans (okay, okay, there's five of us) who would have been quite happy for Will to head back to Scarborough so that Allan and Djaq could work out the raging [[UST]] between them.
** Series three introduced new female character Kate. Before a single episode featuring her had even aired, she was facing cries of [[Mary Sue]] from the fandom (which actually turned out to be ''[[Creator's Pet|correct]]'' for once) because publicity material showed her standing with Robin in photos and kissing him in the series trailer. When she did arrive, it became clear that both Much and Allan had crushes on her, leading to bashing from fans of other ships.
*** As far as shipping Kate went, the most popular choice (that is to say, less hated than other ships) was Allan/Kate, though they only really had one major scene together, and it soon became clear that Allan looked on her as a little sister. Ironically, Kate ended up with Robin, the one pairing that absolutely NOBODY wanted and when {{spoiler|Allan died,}} Kate seemed the ''least'' affected by it, reacting with nothing more than a blank stare and then being the first to walk away from his funeral pyre.
** Gisborne's sister, Isabella, also got this treatment before she had appeared on screen, as an episode trailer had romantic music playing after Robin rescued her from bandits. When the episode actually aired, Robin/Isabella went on to become ''tolerated'', if not entirely accepted by the majority of the fandom, thanks to the actors' undeniable chemistry. And then the relationship only lasted three episodes anyway.
* ''[[Bones]]'' has fans yelling "Kill Cam". (Though to be fair, Booth/Brennan seems to be where the writers are going anyway.)
** Also Sully, an early love interest of Brennan's. He's been totally out of the picture for a couple seasons now and people are STILL writing "kill Sully" fic. Possibly because he was written as some kind of superman, good at absolutely every skill you'd care to name, but even so, enough is enough.
** And now Hannah, Booth's new girlfriend, has reviewers claiming that the only good Bones episodes is one with no Hannah and people praying that Hannah dies a sudden and violent death, like 2 episodes ago. Really?
* The American version of ''[[The Office]]'' had this with Karen in the third season, which led to incidents like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3m6Mghzgh0 this].
** This happened again when a Season 7 deleted scene indicated that new executive assistant and regular cast member Jordan was a little flirtatious with Jim. The fandom came down very hard on her. Before she even had 10 spoken lines.
* The ''[[Supernatural]]'' fandom is notorious for its [[Het Is Ew|negative reaction]] to recurring young female characters for interfering with the [[Ho Yay|Bro Yay]]. In Season 2, the introduction of Jo caused an uproar among the fans. The fans got their way and her character went through [[Near-Rape Experience|an humiliating experience]] before getting dropped in ''Born Under A Bad Sign''. But this was not the end of the slashers' woes. Before Season 3 even began, fandom was already wanking about the introduction of two new female characters, Bela and Ruby. However, things calmed down for the character of Ruby, maybe because it isn't likely that demon hunters arent likely to fall for {{spoiler|a demon}}. The same cannot be said for Bela who {{spoiler|was killed off in the season finale}}.
** Although Sam/Jess (his now-flamed ex-girlfriend), Sam/Sarah (the [[Girl of the Week]] in ''Provenance'') and Dean/Ellen (Jo's mother) are pretty popular, even among the slash fans, but this appears to be only because they have zero chance of hooking up with the boys in canon. If any of them were actually possible ship material, fans would turn on them like rabid dogs, which the flaming of Jess after she made another appearance proved all too well.
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** Spencer is generally immune as his major ship in the fandom is with Sam. With Freddie liking Carly, there's no need to have Freddie even care that much, and with Carly, it's simple to just have her be straight and not romantically interested in Sam.
** Freddie can be written like this in [[Les Yay|Carly/Sam]] stories. But it's rare because it's simple to write him as accepting the girls as lesbians. However, when he ''does'' get the treatment, it's usually a very brutal change in his character brought on by Carly rejecting him, and Sam 'stealing' Carly away from him.
** Sam gets cast in a [[Die for Our Ship]] role in a few Carly/Freddie stories which are [[Hurt /Comfort Fic]], which use Sam as an abusive girlfriend.
** Sam's mom Pam gets put into this role quite often, as a deadbeat parent, she's often shown throwing Sam out of her house (or Sam moving out). Reasons vary, but can include because Sam comes out of the closet as Lesbian or Bisexual and in love with Carly, because she got pregnant to Freddie, or Sam's mom dies and Spencer/Carly/Freddie take her in to live with them.
** Parodied in the episode "[[Fandom Nod|iStart A Fan War]]" -- When Carly points out the guy she currently has a crush on, the in-universe Carly/Freddie shippers scream that he's the one who "stole Carly from Freddie!" and attack him.
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* ''[[The X-Files]]'': Where to even start?
** There was hate for anyone who even might have gotten in the way of Mulder/Scully (notably Diana Fowley and Agent Doggett).
** But at the same time, there was a huge amount of hating on the Mulder/Scully pairing itself. Usually Scully was the target of most of the anger because she interfered with Mulder/Krycek Mulder/Skinner or just about any other pairing imaginable.
*** Mulder/Krycek shippers that didn't want to ''hate'' on Scully often paired her with Skinner, which got her out of the way in a nicer way. Scully/Skinner and Scully/Krycek shippers, though, could turn Mulder into [[Ron the Death Eater]] in order to justify estrangement from Scully. Diana Fowley was a common scapegoat for that.
** Agent Reyes was pretty much loathed by everyone for interfering with Mulder/Scully or Doggett/Scully. (Though to be fair, she was just [[The Scrappy|loathed in general]]).
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** Some of this is a result of the crossover between book fans and show fans. In the books, Bill turns out to fit at least two of these as {{spoiler|he started the relationship on orders from higher up and lied about his motivations}}. Whether or not this will hold true for the show remains to be seen (so far it looks like it probably won't), but a lot of fans of both the book and the show have trouble making distinctions between them.
* ''[[Smallville]]'' has the infamous "Chlois" theory. It basically states that Chloe (Lois Lane's cousin, Clark's [[Unlucky Childhood Friend|high school best friend]], and original character with no comic book counterpart) is really the iconic Lois Lane, who takes Lois' name after she dies to honor her memory, then hooks up with Clark. How the "fake" Lois ends up dying varies from person to person, but she's generally portrayed as a dumb bimbo who couldn't possibly live up to the real Lois' reputation.
** The Chlark (Chloe/Clark) shippers who started the Chlois Theory could be so militantly overzealous in their hero-worship of Chloe and their complete and utter hatred of Lois, Lana, and any other character they saw as a threat to their preferred ship, that many of them could easily be described as the [[Harry Potter|"Harmonians"]] of Smallville fandom.
** There are also the [[Creator's Pet|L]][[Canon Sue|a]][[Purity Sue|n]][[God Mode Sue|a]]/Clark shippers (yes, they do exist) who portray Lois as a [[Smug Snake]] trying to move in on Lana's man and Clark as hopelessly in love with Lana and completely apathetic to Lois. (Which is just what the show ended up doing for a few episodes.)
** Then there's the faction eagerly waiting for Lana to disappear in order to clear the way for Clark's destined relationship with Lois. Having him cling to Lana past high school felt like an unacceptable violation of canon. Of course, the series violates canon in so many other ways, such as killing off Jimmy Olsen (after making him Clark's senior at the Daily Planet!). The implication that Jimmy's little brother will assume the role of "Jimmy" in the future glosses over the implausibility of having two brothers bear the same name, even as a nickname. Lana's death would have served the purpose (although that is another violation of canon), but having her permanently leave town works, too.
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** The "Chlollie" ship (Chloe/Oliver) probably has the least [[Hatedom]] of any ''Smallville'' couple, but it does have it's [[Die for Our Ship]]-ers. Not from Chlark fans, oddly enough, but from Chimmy (Chloe/Jimmy) fans. These fans are especially bitter about a letter Chloe left Oliver when she was [[Put on a Bus]] for much of Season 10, telling him she had never loved anyone as much as him. However, saying that Chloe didn't love Jimmy as much as Oliver could be a harsh, but fair assesment based on how stormy the Chimmy ship actually was in-universe (keep in mind Jimmy was actually Chloe's ''ex-husband'' when he died, having left Chloe just a few weeks after their wedding). To hear the Chimmy shippers tell it, you'd think Chloe and Oliver spend their dates tap-dancing on Jimmy's grave.
* [[Degrassi the Next Generation|Degrassi]], dear God, ''Degrassi.'' Just about every single Craig/Manny fanfic sets out to portray Ashley as a selfish bitch who hates Manny for no reason other than sheer jealousy that Manny's the one Craig really loves...[[Completely Missing the Point|even though it was really Manny who was behaving badly in the storyline; at one point she declared "If Craig really cared about Ashley, why would he keep coming bac\k to me?"]]
** [[Older Than They Think|This was a problem]] going back to old school [[Degrassi High|Degrassi]]. Fans hated anything that got in the way of Degrassi's first [[Super Couple]] Joey Jeremiah and Caitlyn. When Caitlyn broke up with Joey and started dating a creepy guy named [[Romantic False Lead|Claude]], fans wanted him to go away and die. {{spoiler|And he actually did}}.
* Fans of the Mac/Stella pairing on ''[[CSI: NY|CSI: New York]]'' dislike Peyton for getting in the way of their ship during the third season. She is almost always portrayed as either a cold, heartless bitch or whiny and self-centered.
** They also have a dislike for Brandon Walsh, the fireman who ''appeared'' to be dating Stella for a couple episodes in season 5.
** Lindsay and Angell get plenty of heat from the Danny/Flack shippers, most likely because Danny/Lindsay and Flack/Angell are canon. Haters of the characters call them one-dimensional [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]] (or something along those lines) who get between the twu wuv of Danny and Flack.
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* A pretty extreme case is the character Elle on ''[[Gossip Girl]]''. She only appeared in two episodes, yet she's passionately hated by the Chuck/Blair fans (which is roughly 95% of the viewers) for being a love interest for Chuck.
** Eva gets nearly as much hate, since she's viewed as a [[Relationship Sue]] who hit all the tropes from [[Hooker with a Heart of Gold]] to [[Florence Nightingale Effect]] and still failed to be half as awesome as Blair.
* ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]'' fandom contains the extremely popular [[Ho Yay|Merlin/Arthur]] pairing, which leads to bashing of any character linked romantically with either man: leading ladies Morgana and Gwen are the most common targets but there's also Freya, Sophia, Lady Vivian and others.
** Gwen's an interesting case of a character who is generally liked for herself, just not as a [[Love Interest]] - there probably isn't a fan alive who doesn't think that her best friend relationship with Merlin isn't the most adorable thing ever. As she's Arthur's future (now current) wife there's very little the shippers can do to get rid of her. Yet even though there are some who don't like her specific ''role'', the ''character'' is so genuinely sweet that very few writers can bring themselves to [[Ron the Death Eater|derail her]] or otherwise do anything horrid to her. As such, she's usually just ignored in fics that pair Arthur with Merlin, or [[Les Yay|paired with Morgana]] or [[Romantic Runner-Up|Lancelot instead]].
*** The slashers are also genuinely stumped by the fact that [[Like Brother and Sister|Merlin adores Guinevere]], and is a [[Shipper on Deck]] when it comes to Arthur/Guinevere, encouraging them to get together at every available opportunity. Any fic that has him resentful, depressed or jealous at the pairing instantly makes him [[Out of Character]].
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* Though ''[[Xena: Warrior Princess]]'' existed during the early days of the Internet, that didn't stop one of the first and bloodiest full-scale [[Ship-to-Ship Combat|ship wars]] between Xena/Gabrielle shippers (aka [[Subtext|'Subbers']]) and Xena/Ares shippers (simply known as Shippers throughout the fandom -- those were much simpler days).
* ''[[The Big Bang Theory]]'': Many Sheldon/Penny fans are notorious for their hatred of Leonard. Although {{spoiler|they have backed off Leonard now that he and Penny have broken up. Amy, Sheldon's canon love interest, hasn't gotten it as hard}}.
** Well... {{spoiler|Penny and Leonard have gotten back together again, the hate is back on the poor guy. And now that Sheldon and Amy have become official, it's gotten kinda worse for her for some of these people. Poor girl.}}
* ''[[How I Met Your Mother]]'': Barney/Robin shippers automatically hated Don when he became Robin's new love interest after she and Barney broke up (though admittedly, it wasn't just ''them'' who wanted [[The Scrappy|Don]] to die). Then in the season finale, {{spoiler|Robin broke up with Don, leading to much cheering from the fandom}}.
** As of seasons 6 and 7, Barney has a new girlfriend, Nora. While there are some fans out there that like her {{spoiler|and want her to be Barney's future bride}}, lots of Barney/Robin shippers hate her, especially now that Robin is in love with Barney again.